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DiscnRN
March 17th, 2010, 08:23 PM
Since I have been playing DG, all I have ever thrown was Innova. Lately I have been wondering, "What IF I could get a little more distance or accuracy with some Discraft products?" Could some of you give me a suggestion for a putter, midrange and driver so I can do a test run and see how it goes.
Thanks in advance.
REDFIVE
March 17th, 2010, 08:25 PM
Magnet, buzzz, stalker, force/nuke
jevon
March 17th, 2010, 08:33 PM
The Stalker is a nice fairway driver. Can't go wrong with a Buzzz for your mid. I prefer the Challenger for putting but many folks live by the Magnet. I haven't tried the Focus yet.
Jonesy
March 17th, 2010, 08:39 PM
surge ss for D and surge for headwind drives. also the avenger ss changed my game. its silly understable and you'll be throwing long anys day 1. all in Z plastic.
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snap7times
March 17th, 2010, 09:00 PM
Since I have been playing DG, all I have ever thrown was Innova. Lately I have been wondering, "What IF I could get a little more distance or accuracy with some Discraft products?" Could some of you give me a suggestion for a putter, midrange and driver so I can do a test run and see how it goes.
Thanks in advance.
If you have the arm, try the force/nuke, if not really then try surge, surge SS, Avenger
stalker, buzz and focus for anything 300 under
blang11
March 17th, 2010, 09:16 PM
For some reason I really like Discraft for putters and midranges, mostly. My recommendations really depend on how much power you throw with. I really like a lot of their overstable stuff because they suit me: Zone for short range hyzers, Wasp, Force. However, anyone could benefit from the Challenger for putting, Buzzz for midrange, XL for easy distance or turnovers, and Stalker for straight drives.
Nathan
March 17th, 2010, 09:22 PM
One disc that never seems to get mentioned but I really love is the ESP Flash. It will pop over so you need to room to work but it will go a long way. I am also a big fan of the Nuke and the Force. For mids I throw the Buzzz and Meteor. I love them both. Putters its all about the feel. I like the Soft-X plastic.
JMan
March 17th, 2010, 09:38 PM
It also depends on what you want your disc to do. Putter's are easy, 150 in try a Mag and a Challenger (assuming pro D), Mids, if you're used to a Roc, try a Wasp (pro D), don't like the bead, try a Buzzz (pro D), in drivers...it depends on whether or not you like under-stable, neutral or stable...a few suggestions, in the same order, light beat Rogue (DGA made by Discraft), heavier beat Rogue, Z Rogue. The Force is nice, it starts out a bit more over stable, and this without a discussion on preferred weights. Have fun.
'J'
Joshua Olmsted
March 17th, 2010, 11:05 PM
I'd definitely recommend the Buzz as a great all around mid-range. As far as drivers go, I love the straight game, so I'd recommend trying the Xl as a fantastic fairway driver that is has a very gradual turn or fade depending on how you throw it. As far as max D, I haven't tried the Force or the Nuke but I've been using the FLX and ESP Surges for about a year for long and very straight drives.
KCrabtree
March 18th, 2010, 12:01 AM
you wont get any more max D with a discraft driver. They aren't as fast as innova driver's
Parks
March 18th, 2010, 01:27 AM
you wont get any more max D with a discraft driver. They aren't as fast as innova driver's
This is false. The Nuke is at least as fast as anything that Innova makes.
Back to the original topic: Throw the Z/ESP Predator. It is the most accurate slightly overstable disc on the market, and flies great in all kinds of wind conditions.
280zex
March 18th, 2010, 04:42 AM
I have a XL and XS in elite Z plastic. Nothing else like'em. Realy good drivers. So far they have taken some realy, realy hard tree knockers and lived to fly again!! Man I hate "tree-nial".
General Scales
March 18th, 2010, 08:29 AM
Okay, I've got quite a few combos since I throw 99 percent Discraft.
Drivers:
Force (If you've got a good arm) ESP over Z
Nuke (If you've got a good arm and a need for ultra fast)
S.S. Avenger (easiest to throw for max d, hyzer flips, rollers, loonngg anny's) Z more stable, ESP for flips
Venom ESP (Great sidearm, AMAZING overhands) The Pro d version is great but beats WAY too fast
Mids:
Buzzz (Best all around mid ever made) Get a Z one and a FLX ESP
Wasp (Best all around over stable mid ever made) Z all the way
Meteor
Putter:
Focus (Challenger Wizard cross breed that flies fantastic) Pro D since the Soft X is no good for push putts
Ringer (Anything that is windy or anything within 150 to 30 this is my goto) Pro D
Adam Schneider
March 18th, 2010, 08:55 AM
No one has mentioned the Impact. It's kind of a unique disc, somewhere between a midrange and a fairway driver, a little bit flippy, but potentially very very straight.
General Scales
March 18th, 2010, 09:08 AM
No one has mentioned the Impact. It's kind of a unique disc, somewhere between a midrange and a fairway driver, a little bit flippy, but potentially very very straight.
I hate that disc. I know a lot of people that throw it like a demon but I cannot get it to do anything. Mainly goes right in a never ending way for me. Don't care much for the rim feel either. I do have a buddy that swears by them and keeps at least two in the bag at all times. For me the Buzzz is just as long provided with a good snap and stays straight without that weird lip.
barbikes
March 18th, 2010, 10:27 AM
I only carry two discraft molds in my bag but I really like both of them and nobody else has mentioned them.
ESP Cyclone is a very versatile fairway driver.
The X Xpress is a good long anny disc and also makes a great backhand roller disc.
Chopper
March 18th, 2010, 10:27 AM
Win putter= GT banger, no wind= Wizard(DGA,is a Discraft company)
Midrange wind=Wasp,....no wind=Buzz
Driver wind=Extreme.....no wind= Elite Z Wildcat.
For some reason My Wildcats go further than my Surges.
Sean Phillips
March 18th, 2010, 10:31 AM
Why doesn't anybody throw the Tracker? I played around with Discraft for about a year and thought that was the best discraft disc I tried. I think it's Discraft's equivalent to the Teebird. It's super controllable but still goes pretty far.
blang11
March 18th, 2010, 11:05 AM
I also like the Tracker. I personally think it's noticeably more stable than a teebird, maybe half way between a Teebird and a Wraith in terms of stability. I'm just starting to throw mine. I heard most of the discraft pros think of it as a straight flyer, maybe even an anhyzer disc. I just don't see it that way. Mine is plenty stable. I'm sure it will beat in significantly over time though.
Sean Phillips
March 18th, 2010, 11:09 AM
I also like the Tracker. I personally think it's noticeably more stable than a teebird, maybe half way between a Teebird and a Wraith in terms of stability. I'm just starting to throw mine. I heard most of the discraft pros think of it as a straight flyer, maybe even an anhyzer disc. I just don't see it that way. Mine is plenty stable. I'm sure it will beat in significantly over time though.
The tracker's stability changes a lot between plastic types. I liked the X plastic one. The ESP plastic was really stable.
sillybizz
March 18th, 2010, 11:29 AM
Avenger SS is really cool for holding anhyzer lines and hyzer flip distance.
Predator is one of the most under rated discs ever made, a great utility disc. Headwinds, cut rollers, sidearm, tomahawk/thumbers, it can serve many purposes in your bag.
Meteor is a great slightly understable mid that glides like no other disc I've seen and holds anhyzer lines perfectly and can also do slow hyzers. During WA Team Golf Orion (tyvek on the forum here) ripped it up on the par 72 course at Steili with just two Meteors and a two putters.
General Scales
March 18th, 2010, 11:34 AM
I wouldn't say a Tracker is like a Tee-Bird at all. It's a lot longer and faster then any Tee-bird that I've ever thrown. Sure it goes straight but thats about the only likeness. Do love them in the Z the most. I'd say the Discraft version of a Tee-Bird is the Stalker. Except that weird small bead they have on it.
As for the mention of the ESP Cyclone, I've got a 168 in my bag now (lightest disc in there at the moment). I LOVE IT!:bowing: Its the closest thing I've thrown to those wonderful Tournament Pro Cyclones. And yes I should of mentioned it on my previous list, just forgot about it. Which most people do until somebody puts it back in their hands.
BlarneyStoner
March 18th, 2010, 12:41 PM
you wont get any more max D with a discraft driver. They aren't as fast as innova driver's
This made me laugh... I can't imagine a less true statement... for any Innova mold there is equivalent Discraft plastic. Like saying Ford makes faster cars than Dodge.
scottycb1
March 18th, 2010, 12:57 PM
i dont know about anyone else but my star teebirds are just as stable as any wraith that i have ever owned,
The tracker's stability changes a lot between plastic types. I liked the X plastic one. The ESP plastic was really stable.
Will of Doom
March 18th, 2010, 06:45 PM
I hate that disc. I know a lot of people that throw it like a demon but I cannot get it to do anything. Mainly goes right in a never ending way for me. Don't care much for the rim feel either. I do have a buddy that swears by them and keeps at least two in the bag at all times. For me the Buzzz is just as long provided with a good snap and stays straight without that weird lip.
For me the Impact works great for Anhyzer shots around 200-250'.
For straight to hyzer I do go for the buzzz though.
Timber
March 18th, 2010, 06:55 PM
I throw a lot of Discraft. Love the Rattler, Buzzz, Wasp, XS, XL, Avenger SS, Predator. Learning to love the Comet and Stalker. Never quite clicked with the Cyclone.
But...if I could only keep one Discraft disc in my bag it would be a Drone. Especially in Z plastic if you can find one. mmmmm
TreeLove
March 18th, 2010, 08:01 PM
A discraft person like yourself should be throwing a Surge, and a Tracker!
sillybizz
March 18th, 2010, 08:03 PM
I throw a lot of Discraft. Love the Rattler, Buzzz, Wasp, XS, XL, Avenger SS, Predator. Learning to love the Comet and Stalker. Never quite clicked with the Cyclone.
But...if I could only keep one Discraft disc in my bag it would be a Drone. Especially in Z plastic if you can find one. mmmmm
Never thrown the Z version but I swear by my FLX Drone, what's so tasty about the Z version over the others?
Timber
March 18th, 2010, 08:59 PM
Never thrown the Z version but I swear by my FLX Drone, what's so tasty about the Z version over the others?
FLX is probably fine flightwise but I don't like the feel of it.
Pro-D beats in too quick and loses some of its meathookness.
:D
mazza
March 18th, 2010, 09:03 PM
Never thrown the Z version but I swear by my FLX Drone, what's so tasty about the Z version over the others?
to me the z line is way more durable. witch to me stays stable longer.
i love my surges. my flx surge ss just loves to helix. i also have 4 buzzzz 1 flx, 2 crystals,and a elite Z. i also have a wasp for tee'in off on shorter holes. but i do feel i need to try some of the other lines that discraft puts out.
sillybizz
March 18th, 2010, 09:17 PM
FLX is probably fine flightwise but I don't like the feel of it.
Pro-D beats in too quick and loses some of its meathookness.
:D
My FLX Drone is the Limited Edition ones that were the first to come out and I have beat and beat on that disc for a couple years now (when ever they first came out, I forgot) and that thing is as stable as a brand new one. I find that with the FLX plastic, it looks like it's beat but still maintains it's stability.
Parks
March 19th, 2010, 02:09 AM
I agree with Timber. Floppy FLX plastic just doesn't feel right :/
Tim
March 19th, 2010, 06:14 AM
I agree with Timber. Floppy FLX plastic just doesn't feel right :/
And I agree with Parks. I tried a soft FLX Buzzz and Surge when FLX was new on the market, and just didn't like the feel of it. Recently though, I've been looking for a super overstable mid for certain shots and decided to try out a FLX Drone. This one is flat top and doesn't feel like FLX at all, just normal ESP--the blend feels identical to the ESP Zone I got recently as well. It actually feels stiffer than several other Discraft discs that were supposed to be normal ESP that I've seen. It may be a mark against Discraft's consistency, but hey, I like it.
papatart
March 19th, 2010, 07:50 AM
Well, I would like to say that you can try anything out as Discraft stuff is just basically awesome and no matter which disc you try you will probably find a home for it in your bag......but that is not the question.
Putter...it really depends on what you like for feel, how you like to putt and will you be throwing it and what do you expect out of it in a throw. Probably the most universal putter is the Challenger and if you like stiff it would be D plastic for ya and if you like more grip try the X Soft Challenger. This is an overstable putter that will take good hard throws for long approaches and not turn over while being a very solid putter.
Mid...Easy to say the Buzzz as it is by far the most popular mid range in the line and just an all around great disc. When people who throw Innova generally carry seventeen different Rocs in their bag waiting for them to get tuned to the perfect throw, this is what they are waiting for....except it starts that way off the rack and stays that way if you use the Z or ESP plastic. Oh yeah, the durable plastic in the Buzzz is available at all times for standard pricing at you local retail outlet...like the pro shop at Dalaiwood!
Driver....So many options. I have thrown the XL since 1997 and is still the most controllable fairway driver ever. But remember, it is not a drvier that you just pull back and yank like the new speed 23.787 drivers. I love the Z plastic XL and it is a very good disc. For big D I am still using the ESP Flash with room to throw it and the Surge for more direct distance pulls. The Nuke has made a big impact in my bag but not the disc I would suggest to start in with.
Drivers are the hardest as they really depend on skill level and your desired style of throw. What is your favorite Innova driver that you are using now and I can probably make a better suggestion on what you may want to try first in Discraft.
No matter what, have fun with it and it's cool to see you trying all the brands as all the companies make discs that may turn out to be your favorites!
Later,
Scott Papa
Ol' Bob
March 19th, 2010, 08:39 AM
Until Discraft gets some fast 150 class distance drivers for my old slow arm, I'll be driving with Innovas.
DMajor
March 19th, 2010, 08:47 AM
Until Discraft gets some fast distance drivers for my arm, I'll be driving with Innovas.
Also true!
GettinBetter
March 19th, 2010, 09:44 AM
Until Discraft gets some fast 150 class distance drivers for my old slow arm, I'll be driving with Innovas.
They make 150class forces. You can find them at sunking here (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2522)
But you better hurry they only have 2 left
Adam Schneider
March 19th, 2010, 09:46 AM
They make 150class forces. You can find them at sunking here (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2522)
But you better hurry they only have 2 left
DiscGolfCenter.com has 3 of the D Forces in the 143-147 range too.
150g X Surges are widely available (actually down to 140g) but are extremely flippy.
sillybizz
March 19th, 2010, 09:50 AM
Even though I'm a Discraft fan boy when I recommend a disc to a newbie it's usually Innova because of the better selection of weights, understable discs, and their flight chart which is easier to grasp at first over Discraft. Soooooooooooooo Innova is for casual players and Discraft is for serious players! hehe :)
GettinBetter
March 19th, 2010, 09:50 AM
DiscGolfCenter.com has 3 of the D Forces in the 143-147 range too.
150g X Surges are widely available (actually down to 140g) but are extremely flippy.
Even better! (Forces that is). I agree that the 150 surges are too flippy. (they should start making them in ESP)
DiscnRN
March 20th, 2010, 01:39 AM
O.K, so here's what I went with. (I'm the O.P. of this thread). An XS in elite Z, An Avenger in elite X, a first run Nuke ESP, A Buzzz ESP and a soft Focus.
I decided to go to a Champoeg as it has some nice variety on flat ground. Unfortunately, a fairly decent breeze was blowing so both accuracy and distance were hard to determine but my preliminary results were as followed. The XS was nice and slightly overstable and the Avenger gave me awesome side arm distance. I found the Nuke a little difficult to control. The Buzzz was nice and straight and I'll need to practice a little with the Focus. Again the breeze was such that it was even effecting putts in the 20-30 ft. range. I will have to get out to a football field on a calm day to get the real feel of how these throw.
If I can't get the Nuke under control, I may offer it up for a sixer of Newcastle Brown Ale (Yeah, I know it's English and not local but I've developed a mild allergy to hops which so many of our local beers are full of):chug:
Jonesy
March 20th, 2010, 08:27 PM
thats terrible! how do i avoid this?
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Ol' Bob
March 20th, 2010, 09:19 PM
I'm not allergic to hops, but its closest cousin instead. Not funny.
Secondbest
April 4th, 2010, 02:25 PM
Since I have been playing DG, all I have ever thrown was Innova. Lately I have been wondering, "What IF I could get a little more distance or accuracy with some Discraft products?" Could some of you give me a suggestion for a putter, midrange and driver so I can do a test run and see how it goes.
Thanks in advance.
magnet/buzz/surge and flick for side arm
Iowa
April 6th, 2010, 06:12 PM
The Force is my new go-to driver replacing my Crush. I love it. Everyone should buy 15 now.
The Ombudsman
April 6th, 2010, 06:29 PM
Since I have been playing DG, all I have ever thrown was Innova. Lately I have been wondering, "What IF I could get a little more distance or accuracy with some Discraft products?" Could some of you give me a suggestion for a putter, midrange and driver so I can do a test run and see how it goes.
Thanks in advance.
I hope you have not wasted too much time and $$ on this foible
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