Will Odom replaced? Really?

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Why was Will replaced?

Bob

[Sam]

Injury... though he did give me the thumbs up sign when I saw him and blocked him in the circle at Pier on Saturday.

If Climo becomes available, how bad of a hangnail would I need to have in order to pull an injury replacement? :D

[D-Walk]

Honestly, I think the most surprised person in this whole transaction was Will.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

As I understand it, the rule (new this year) is that if a player is injured and CAN NOT play they can be replaced. Will WAS injured, but IS able to play. How can he be replaced? AND shouldn't the injured player be consulted? And a TEAM decision made? What is happening this year? This is NOT the spirit of Team Golf as I know it. :pullhair:

I'm sure glad my Team didn't replace me when I coughed. You know, at my age it could be assumed I was dying. :slapface:

Bob

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Oh yeah, I just wanted to add:

THIS IS TOTAL B... S...!

Bob

[D-Walk]

Oh yeah, I just wanted to add:

THIS IS TOTAL B... S...!

Bob

Bob is mad as hell and he's not gonna take it anymore. :pullhair:

Personally I think the biggest travesty was not pairing up 3C & Me with D&D. :waaah: A Dave vs Bob match would have been talked about for years to come. :trophy: Some day Spencer Stewart will be telling his grandkids about the old guys he beat when he was 11. :slapface:

[Trozzle!!!]

Oh yeah, I just wanted to add:

THIS IS TOTAL B... S...!

Bob

I would have to agree Bob. As far as I knew Will ha no idea, Jordan had no idea. Will showed up to play and he found out he was off the team. He did end up shooting a round and shot a 63. Not bad at all being just a few weeks off from a dislocated knee.

[Will of Doom]

Honestly, I think the most surprised person in this whole transaction was Will.

I do believe your right! What's puzzling to me is this is supposed to be for my own good. Since when did I become unable to care for myself. I did just fine last year after dislocating my right kneecap and tearing my mcl. :cool:

[Celeste]

I'm sure glad my Team didn't replace me when I coughed. You know, at my age it could be assumed I was dying. :slapface:

Bob

Bob-
We did replace you but thought actually telling you might mean you meeting BIG and 2 pac in that big ole steak and titty bar in the sky a little early.
We still welcome you to come out to TDG though.
Love
D&D

[LegoRules]

I do believe your right! What's puzzling to me is this is supposed to be for my own good. Since when did I become unable to care for myself. I did just fine last year after dislocating my right kneecap and tearing my mcl. :cool:

Um that is just weird :chinscratch: Are we not all adults here, and able to decide for ourselves wether or not something is in our best interest.

Sounds like a huge miss on the communication in this situation also. A phone call should have been made at the very least.

Cindy :)

[Celeste]

It doesn't seem like the rule for replacement was followed. It was pretty clear that it was only there for when someone COULDN'T return for the ENTIRE season. Even if Will had to sit out at Pier and was back at the next or even just the last TDG event, he was not eligible to be replaced.

[Trozzle!!!]

Chompy was injured and replaced. He cant return and wont return this season. Therefore a replacement was made. Will obviously can play, although not 100%, so a replacement should not have been allowed. I know Will didnt make this decision so nothing against him, and nothing against Gwillim for taking his spot. This was a very bad decision made by the captain, and no offense to Jordan, but this move should not have been allowed. Maybe Jordan was thinking that the team was all ok with it. I know Will was there ready to play before the cards were finalized and we were sent off to play.

[NWDiscer]

i had to play with a torn calf muscle in a walking cast..........:shocked:


VETOED/FAIL

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Chompy was injured and replaced. He cant return and wont return this season. Therefore a replacement was made. Will obviously can play, although not 100%, so a replacement should not have been allowed. I know Will didnt make this decision so nothing against him, and nothing against Gwillim for taking his spot. This was a very bad decision made by the captain, and no offense to Jordan, but this move should not have been allowed. Maybe Jordan was thinking that the team was all ok with it. I know Will was there ready to play before the cards were finalized and we were sent off to play.

Yes, not Gwillim's problem (unless he actually crow barred Will and it wasn't a slip on ice :wink2:), certainly a bad or misinformed decision. How is this all set right then? My thought is to throw out the round played by Gwillim, points adjusted, and Will continues on the team? :confused:

Bob

[Sausage Fingers]

This IS and SHOULD be between Will and his team captain. We made an injury replacement rule this year and it has been used more than once so far this season.

There are very few perks to being a team captain, but replacing an injured player is one of them. The final decision rests with the team captain. I would have loved to see better team communication so that the change wouldn't have been the shock that it ended up being.

Communication is always hard during the Holiday season, it is why I try to not schedule any matches this time of year.

So basically this is just a big 'shut your trap and worry about your own team Bob'. (But you know that I still gots nothin but luv for ya old guy.:kissflowers:)

I am finally getting better from my 100° temp Sunday night and Jeff is heading over to help with stats. So hopefully we will get the final results posted up soon. Sorry for the delay.:pirate:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

This IS and SHOULD be between Will and his team captain. We made an injury replacement rule this year and it has been used more than once so far this season.

There are very few perks to being a team captain, but replacing an injured player is one of them. The final decision rests with the team captain. I would have loved to see better team communication so that the change wouldn't have been the shock that it ended up being.

Communication is always hard during the Holiday season, it is why I try to not schedule any matches this time of year.

So basically this is just a big 'shut your trap and worry about your own team Bob'. (But you know that I still gots nothin but luv for ya old guy.:kissflowers:)

I am finally getting better from my 100° temp Sunday night and Jeff is heading over to help with stats. So hopefully we will get the final results posted up soon. Sorry for delay.:pirate:

What can I say, I'm just a crusty, grumpy, trouble making, Disorderlier, old man, that hates to see a travesty. :rockon:

Bob

[Sausage Fingers]

Listen up punks!

You guys can whine and bitch all you want. The decision has been made. I feel bad for Will and he'd love to be considered as a replacement if any other players go down due to injury.

But seriously people, the man was taken from the course by ambulance! How more injured do you need to be.

And Searles, quit being bitter about your injury that happened before we added the replacement rule. It is irrelevant to this discussion which is now closed.:pirate:

[Sausage Fingers]

What can I say, I'm just a crusty, grumpy, trouble making, Disorderlier, old man

That's what makes you so lovable. That and your excellent choice in wives, if I may say so.:pirate:

[Will of Doom]

Ya know, it's like Jordan says. Even though I may not like it, I was replaced and there's nothing I or anyone else can do about it. Communication attempts could have been better, on my half too, but that's in the past. I'm still going to show up at the parks and play. I'll just be playing for "Team Doom".

[t-party]

Okay, so since everyone seems to want to put in their two cents, I figured I would try to explain as diplomatically as possible what happened.

1)Will was injured and taken away in an ambulance.
2)When we tried to contact Will we were unable to find out if he was planning on playing, given that he needed an ambulance to leave Timber we assumed he would be unable to.
3)Since we already had two people quit the team (without contacting us and without returning a single phone call) we are down to only Scotty, Will, Shannon, Donny, and myself (5 players).
4) After Will was taken away in the ambulance, as we understood it, we were unable to play because there were only 3 of us remaining. We were under the impression that at least 4 people from a team need to show up to field the team.
5) I was gone for the past two weeks on vacation and knew I wouldn't be able to make pier this last weekend; therefore we would only have had Scotty, Shannon and Donny show up (3 people which would have been too few to play).
6) in an effort to try to field the team I contacted Gwillim to see if he would do us the favor of filling in so that whoever was supposed to play us wouldn't be angry that the team was not there and unable to play.
7) Gwillim graciously accepted my request to help us out in a pinch and what I believed would be of a benefit for TDG.
8) It is obvious that team Whiskey Disc does not care about winning. We are there only to have a good time. We are a team formed last minute who didn't know eachother and communication has been difficult to say the least.

I sincerely apologize for any misunderstanding. Hopefully everything can be resolved. To begin, it might be useful that everyone on my team has everyone's contact information.

Thanks,
Tassia

[Trozzle!!!]

I dont really like it, but I say that the decsion has been made and that is that for this season. Only a few more matches anyways. Sorry Will. It was a bad decision obviously by the team, but what is done, is done. I know this team formed last minute, so communication was an obvious factor. The fact that Will left in an ambulance should have no bearing on the decision though. He was at Pier, ready to play and did play a decent round. I do think this rule should be looked into a little more next year for more clarification. Like a player has to miss 2-3 consecutive events before they are deemed unable to play? something like this?

[Will of Doom]

While I appreciate the attemp at the clarification I need to clear up a few things. I only took an ambulance to the ER cuz I couldn't pop my knee back in myself. This isn't the first time this has happened and I haven't needed an ambulance before. If my memory serves me right. When Shannon and myself arrived at Timber for the match she swapped phone numbers with you and Scotty. At least I know she has your numbers. As I said eralier communication attempts could have been better on both sides. As for my attending the match at pier, I thought my posts here in the team forums made it pretty clear I would be attending. Shannon even sent a message to Scotty that morning saying we were on our way but were running a little late. I harbor no ill will towards gwillim, he was asked to fill in and did a great job from what I heard. Even chatted with him for a few.


Now to help with communication problems in the future
Will - 503-710-4435
Shannon - 503-709-5063

[Trozzle!!!]

from what I saw on here, you did make posts saying that more than likely you would be making it.

[Trozzle!!!]

There was this post:
Went to the orthopedist this morning and everything looks relatively fine. Nothing is broken of torn. Just a dislocation this time. They have me doing physical therapy again for at least the next 10 days that I'm off of work. I'm hoping to be off the crutches before then and maybe back to playing golf in a few weeks. Just have to see how it goes and be a bit more careful of my footing. Thanks to everyone that was there with me and a special thanks to Amber and Crist for taking my car home for me, sorry about the mess in the car lol, I owe you guys big time.

and this one:

Yes, It sucks. It sucks really hard. It did however go really well today and my therapist is pleased with how much motion I have and how little swelling there is. It's looking like I may be back for Pier
Just have to cross my fingers and hope everything goes as planned

Plus the calls and or texts the day of Pier. pretty messed up!!!

[Scotty B]

hello to everyone this is Scotty B talking at you. I see that a few of you are upset with the decision. I made the choice and I will stand behind it 100% with the conditions being the way they are all winter long I didn't want Will to injure himself any further. I also did send a P.M. to both Shannon and Will prior to the match for some reason they did not get them also Shannon had my number and I never received hers because the day at timber was cut short. It's nice to see you all so concerned about the situation I had no intent of pissing off Will I know that he is an adult but I also watched him hobble around the course all day yes he shot a 63 but the choice was made for the long term I would rather Will be ready for the summer tournaments then injure his knee any further. I hope that none of you have to make a decision on someones well being in the future maybe we should have just let him stay on the ground and finished our afternoon round at Timber. In closing Will if you had something to say about the decision you should have spoke up you played the entire afternoon round with me at Pier and not waited to send it to me on the forum I hope this doesn't ruin what I thought was a pretty good relationship we had going I enjoy playing with you and Shannon so hopefuly we can move past this and have some fun.

[Sam]

Dammit... I feel like I am supposed to say something in this thread...
:pullhair:

[chris7graham]

Dammit... I feel like I am supposed to say something in this thread...
:pullhair:

:shocked::biggrin2::bricks::explode:

[Susie Sunshine]

Wow.

ScottyB, if you step up to be a team captain, it would be a wise idea to read through the rules and follow them. It would also be wise to gather your team's contact information (prior to midway through the season). If you're going to rely on P.M.s through this forum to communicate with your team, you might also want to learn how that works. A quick look at their profiles shows that you sent "visitor messages", which are different from "Private messages". A visitor message is posted on their profile for all to see, and they do not receive any notification of the message being sent. Unless they take a look at their own public profile, they're not going to see your message. A private message is for only the user to see, and you typically get an email notification (and/or a pop up when you log into the forums) letting you know that you've been sent a message. With that being said, read the visitor message you posted on Shannon's profile (http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/member.php?u=441) - it sounds as if your intention was to have Ryan "fill in for the time being", and let Will rest his knee for another match (quite different than the way you're portraying your decision in this thread). That's not how the new injury rule works, and as the team captain, you should be aware of that. This is not the first time that your team roster has changed this season. Why was Caroline replaced? Was there an injury that prevented her from playing for the rest of the season? If you're going to stand by your decisions 100%, I think you should be prepared to be held accountable for them.

[Sam]

OK... we'll go with that and see what happens... Thanks, SS. :)

*munches popcorn*

[LegoRules]

OK... we'll go with that and see what happens... Thanks, SS. :)

*munches popcorn*

Hey Sam pass the popcorn. :shocked:

[Jet]

4) After Will was taken away in the ambulance, as we understood it, we were unable to play because there were only 3 of us remaining. We were under the impression that at least 4 people from a team need to show up to field the team.
5) I was gone for the past two weeks on vacation and knew I wouldn't be able to make pier this last weekend; therefore we would only have had Scotty, Shannon and Donny show up (3 people which would have been too few to play).


Can a team play with 3 players? What is the minimum number of players that can show up and play another team? Sorry if this was already explained but I missed it. And I'll have some of that popcorn too.

[LegoRules]

Can a team play with 3 players? What is the minimum number of players that can show up and play another team? Sorry if this was already explained but I missed it. And I'll have some of that popcorn too.

Yes it was already discussed in the Whiskey Disc tread http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3717 back on Dec. 18th. We all had it wrong.

>>Quote:
Originally Posted by LegoRules
Because a team has to have at least field 4 members before a match can continue.

I think that was a new team golf rule for this year.

Cindy

What?!?! There is no such rule. Even if only 1 team member shows up they can still play for 1 point in each round. It takes at least 3 players to have a chance at winning the match, but they can still play with less.

If the 2 teams would like to meet soon to make it up, I will still allow it. But only the players who were at Timber that day can be eligible to play. The team that didn't get to pick the matchups in the morning round gets to pick the matchups for the makeup round.

When an injury like that happens it is hard to continue the rounds. So I will make an exception for this. Please let me know how you'd like to proceed. >>

[NWDiscer]

OK... we'll go with that and see what happens... Thanks, SS. :)

*munches popcorn*

u made that popcorn with coconut oil right?....:drool::drool:

and lets crack open a Pliny the Elder to go along with it :cheers:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Can a team play with 3 players? What is the minimum number of players that can show up and play another team? Sorry if this was already explained but I missed it. And I'll have some of that popcorn too.

Absolutely! Two years ago when I joined Trojan Nation, we started with all 7 players for the first event and that was the only time we fielded a full team. Most of the time it ended up being only Keys and I representing. When Keys went down injured before the finals, it was only me playing at the finals.

Now.......where's the popcorn? Carry on!

Bob

[Celeste]

Yep. My first TDG season we had a BUNCH of people bail and 2 people leave the country for the end of the season. One took a Sunday job after just the first match. I think we also only got the full team point the first match.
I'm certainly not trying to stir it up and I understand not wanting someone to further an injury. However, if a doctor gave them the all clear that should be good enough. I don't believe the rule was used correctly and that is the only point I have. I know nothing about the Caroline decision so can't comment on that, but am curious.
It does benefit the whole league when teams are able to field a full team so I think we need to keep the replacement rule alive next year. Maybe we can clarify it more (have a proccess) at that time.

[Ol' Bob]

Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a sh*t about the rules?
http://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/gamestar/objects/279981_main.jpg

[Pizzel]

Yes it was already discussed in the Whiskey Disc tread http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3717 back on Dec. 18th. We all had it wrong.

>>Quote:
Originally Posted by LegoRules
Because a team has to have at least field 4 members before a match can continue.

I think that was a new team golf rule for this year.

Cindy

What?!?! There is no such rule. Even if only 1 team member shows up they can still play for 1 point in each round. It takes at least 3 players to have a chance at winning the match, but they can still play with less.

If the 2 teams would like to meet soon to make it up, I will still allow it. But only the players who were at Timber that day can be eligible to play. The team that didn't get to pick the matchups in the morning round gets to pick the matchups for the makeup round.

When an injury like that happens it is hard to continue the rounds. So I will make an exception for this. Please let me know how you'd like to proceed. >>
What was the outcome regarding the match? I would think that all afternoon points would have been forfeited by both teams.

[sillybizz]

Why are there so many injuries in OR team golf, are you guys that competitive that you would go Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan on each other?!

[Sam]

When you rock as hard as we do, things are bound to get broken. Think Led Zeppelin at a Hollywood Hotel and that is Oregon Team Disc Golf.
:rockon:

[sillybizz]

LOL and WA team golf is like a John Denver concert! :shocked:

[Joe G]

This IS and SHOULD be between Will and his team captain. We made an injury replacement rule this year and it has been used more than once so far this season.

There are very few perks to being a team captain, but replacing an injured player is one of them. The final decision rests with the team captain. I would have loved to see better team communication so that the change wouldn't have been the shock that it ended up being.

Communication is always hard during the Holiday season, it is why I try to not schedule any matches this time of year.

So basically this is just a big 'shut your trap and worry about your own team Bob'. (But you know that I still gots nothin but luv for ya old guy.:kissflowers:)

I am finally getting better from my 100° temp Sunday night and Jeff is heading over to help with stats. So hopefully we will get the final results posted up soon. Sorry for the delay.:pirate:

Wait a minute... I thought this was just for "fun" If everyone wants to get so serious about rules and replacements then lets make it a money league... So when you act like you have something to win or lose... YOU ACTUALLY DO!!!:angel:

[Sam]

LOL and WA team golf is like a John Denver concert! :shocked:

You said it... but is it Rocky Mountain High or... Grandma's Feather Bed? :laughing:

[sillybizz]

You said it... but is it Rocky Mountain High or... Grandma's Feather Bed? :laughing:

At NAD this last weekend it seemed like Country Road, hehe.

[sillybizz]

Seriously though team golf is probably one of the coolest things I've ever done in disc golf, whom ever thought of it is my new hero. I'm hoping for a team golf superbowl sometime. Back to your guys thread, sorry.

[t-party]

While I appreciate the attemp at the clarification I need to clear up a few things. I only took an ambulance to the ER cuz I couldn't pop my knee back in myself. This isn't the first time this has happened and I haven't needed an ambulance before. If my memory serves me right. When Shannon and myself arrived at Timber for the match she swapped phone numbers with you and Scotty. At least I know she has your numbers. As I said eralier communication attempts could have been better on both sides. As for my attending the match at pier, I thought my posts here in the team forums made it pretty clear I would be attending. Shannon even sent a message to Scotty that morning saying we were on our way but were running a little late. I harbor no ill will towards gwillim, he was asked to fill in and did a great job from what I heard. Even chatted with him for a few.


Now to help with communication problems in the future
Will - 503-710-4435
Shannon - 503-709-5063

Thanks :) Yeah, I somehow never ended up with her number or yours. Sorry about that. I hope there isn't any hard feelings. My lesson is this, "read the forum, even when on vacation." Hope you're feeling better, man. See you on the course.

[t-party]

Yep. My first TDG season we had a BUNCH of people bail and 2 people leave the country for the end of the season. One took a Sunday job after just the first match. I think we also only got the full team point the first match.
I'm certainly not trying to stir it up and I understand not wanting someone to further an injury. However, if a doctor gave them the all clear that should be good enough. I don't believe the rule was used correctly and that is the only point I have. I know nothing about the Caroline decision so can't comment on that, but am curious.
It does benefit the whole league when teams are able to field a full team so I think we need to keep the replacement rule alive next year. Maybe we can clarify it more (have a proccess) at that time.

Just clarifying the caroline decision:
Caroline never started. She showed up and played for fun on day 1 (didn't keep her score), but bailed before the season started (only one or two days prior to the beginning of the season) due to a new job and scheduling issues, so last minute we got Parker to play instead of Caroline. Since she never officially started the season and somehow it wasn't communicated that Parker would be playing instead before the roster was published, there is where the confusion lies. Now, what I'm trying to figure out is how everyone has time to comment on here all the time. Man, I wish I stared at a computer screen all day. this would be hours of entertainment. Anyway, back to school. I'm out, but I still love ya all. See you at Dabney on the 16 :)

[LegoRules]

I'm out, but I still love ya all. See you at Dabney on the 16 :)


Um hopefully your team captain will let you know that the next match is at Bonneville, and not Dabney. :wink2:

Cindy :)

[TreeLove]

LOL and WA team golf is like a John Denver concert! :shocked:

Manheim Steamroller, more like.

[TreeLove]

Seriously though team golf is probably one of the coolest things I've ever done in disc golf, whom ever thought of it is my new hero. I'm hoping for a team golf superbowl sometime. Back to your guys thread, sorry.

Roland - a hero? :jumpspin: Sure, the original team golf was cool (stacked), but it was nothing like what Jordan has evolved it into! Now it's fair and fun for all! :rockon:

TDG "Super Game" ? :trophy: (gotta be a bit more careful there with your terminology, Silly) Sure, we have one every year! :yay:

[sillybizz]

So it's pretty obvious how much of a TDG green horn I am, my mistake. I'm more focused on beating Team NAD next week in WA TDG, hehe.

I don't know Roland or Jordan but they are heroes to me now! :rockon: Oregon!

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Um hopefully your team captain will let you know that the next match is at Bonneville, and not Dabney. :wink2:

Cindy :)


Shhhhhhhhhhhhh! We play Whiskey Dicks next and it would be sooooooo much easier if they show up at Dabney. :biggrin2:

Bob

[LegoRules]

Quote:
Originally Posted by t-party
I'm out, but I still love ya all. See you at Dabney on the 16

Um hopefully your team captain will let you know that the next match is at Bonneville, and not Dabney. :wink2:

Cindy :)

That was a rather snippy post above I left, and I apologize. I am just super bummed for Will. He was so looking forward to team golf, and having such a good time. I wish things had worked out differently, and know everyone else involved does as well.

Cindy :)

[Trozzle!!!]

Geeze Cindy, you always snap at me for my less than desirable posts, and you pull this crap? $hit talking a captain? HAHAHA i am playing, I love it!!! :cheers:

[Sausage Fingers]

Geeze Cindy, you always snap at me for my less than desirable posts

That's because almost everything that comes out of your trap is offensive, dude!:shocked:

Hey, but you beat Putt This! last weekend so I'll cut you a little slack this time.

The rest of you are just spittin into the wind on this thread...:pirate:

PS I just checked my Visitor messages and I had quite a few that I hadn't read either...including one from Scotty B. Any moderator want to enlighten me on the purpose of these useless messages that you have no way of knowing that people post? Can I get mine turned off please?

[Trozzle!!!]

Yes Jordan i do tend to post some rather contoversial or offensive posts. Thats cause i think life is boring if you dont take risks. I hate being bore. I like to stir $hit up :)

And NO I didnt beat Putt This, my TEAM did. we arent doing so bad for a team that is mostly unknown. Jim, Jet and I are fairly well known, But Dave, Karl, Jeff, an Eric were pretty unknown before this season :) Hopefully we can make it to the Sunday teams soon.

[Trozzle!!!]

As far as future seasons go, and a chance for Sat teams to make it to Sundays, I have an idea. I think the winners of the Sat divisions should get an automatic bid to play Sunday next year, and the 2 last place teams on Sunday should get moved to Sat. They will have to earn their spot back to play on Sundays again. If something like this oesnt get implemented, than it will continue to be the same teams on Sat and the same teams on Sun. I think its a good idea. any thoughts?

["Over the Hill" Bob]

As far as future seasons go, and a chance for Sat teams to make it to Sundays, I have an idea. I think the winners of the Sat divisions should get an automatic bid to play Sunday next year, and the 2 last place teams on Sunday should get moved to Sat. They will have to earn their spot back to play on Sundays again. If something like this oesnt get implemented, than it will continue to be the same teams on Sat and the same teams on Sun. I think its a good idea. any thoughts?

Yeah, go have a beer :chug:and quit trying to stir up $hit! :pullhair:

Bob

[Trozzle!!!]

HAHA not drinking and not trying to stir up $hit. I just thought this was a good idea to give others a chance to play on Sundays too. Otherwise it will be the same old thing every year from here on out. I know this year, my team had enough seniority to take a sunday spot, based on that, but we chose to play on Sat instead of taking out a team. I think it woul dbe fair to let Sat teams have a chance to play on the Sunday divisions.

[jevon]

Yeah, go have a beer :chug:and quit trying to stir up $hit! :pullhair:

Bob

...and THIS is why Bob rocks!!! :rockon:

[olydiscgolf]

As far as future seasons go, and a chance for Sat teams to make it to Sundays, I have an idea. I think the winners of the Sat divisions should get an automatic bid to play Sunday next year, and the 2 last place teams on Sunday should get moved to Sat. They will have to earn their spot back to play on Sundays again. If something like this oesnt get implemented, than it will continue to be the same teams on Sat and the same teams on Sun. I think its a good idea. any thoughts?

Thats an interesting twist on TDG. The softball leagues I used to play in had a similar rule. The two last place teams in a division got moved down, while the top two got moved up. With only 8 teams in a division, it kept it fresh.

[LegoRules]

HAHA not drinking and not trying to stir up $hit. I just thought this was a good idea to give others a chance to play on Sundays too. Otherwise it will be the same old thing every year from here on out. I know this year, my team had enough seniority to take a sunday spot, based on that, but we chose to play on Sat instead of taking out a team. I think it woul dbe fair to let Sat teams have a chance to play on the Sunday divisions.

Just wondering Troy how do you figure your team had the seniority to take a Sunday spot? I know that of the new teams WMD & 3 Cs & a D posted their rosters before Crazzy 18, and neither one of those teams had the seniority to take a Sunday spot. The only team that is playing on Sunday that has less so called seniority than WMD & 3 Cs & a D are Team Skinny.

Cindy :)

[Sam]

Dammit. This popcorn has gone stale...

[Susie Sunshine]

PS I just checked my Visitor messages and I had quite a few that I hadn't read either...including one from Scotty B. Any moderator want to enlighten me on the purpose of these useless messages that you have no way of knowing that people post? Can I get mine turned off please?


Here ya go (http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?p=47894#post47894), Jordan.

[Carie CPink]

As far as future seasons go, and a chance for Sat teams to make it to Sundays, I have an idea. I think the winners of the Sat divisions should get an automatic bid to play Sunday next year, and the 2 last place teams on Sunday should get moved to Sat. They will have to earn their spot back to play on Sundays again. If something like this oesnt get implemented, than it will continue to be the same teams on Sat and the same teams on Sun. I think its a good idea. any thoughts?

While I think it would be a nice gesture for the winner of the Saturday division to move to Sunday, I think that teams who have played in TDG for several years have priority.

[Sam]

I agree with Carie.

Once again, I find myself reading Trozzle posts and scratching my head wondering where the shame filter is... :slapface:

[Kevin Madrid]

I'm sooooo happy I have the variety can of popcorn here at the office... a little cheddar, carmel, and plain butter (which is almost gone) :jumpspin:

:cool2:

[Sam]

Jamie's mom got you a present, too?! So much for feeling special... :laughing:

[Jonesy]

Since sat teams are going to take it all this year maybe we could give one of the better sunday teams the honor of switching to saturday!) Also, if will can play then he's not injured and not eligible to be replaced. Nullify ryans match. Rules are rules for a reason, not to be abused.
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[Sam]

Yeah... read it all and I have to agree with Jonesy. This switch stinks and should not have been allowed.

[Trozzle!!!]

As far as seniority, what i meant was total years that team members have played TDG. I didnt mean anything about order of sign up. My team was organized later than others and we took the Sat spot no problem. We never did try to take a Sun spot. Back to the seniority thing... 3 or the people on my team have played TDG previous years. adding up to 6-7 years total. Jet 1 yr, Me 2 years, and Jim 3-4 years. How many yrs of TDG experience does 3 C's and a D have? team Skinny? If it came down to years played, then our team would have seniority over quite a few teams ( 3 Sun teams i believe).

[LegoRules]

As far as seniority, what i meant was total years that team members have played TDG. I didnt mean anything about order of sign up. My team was organized later than others and we took the Sat spot no problem. We never did try to take a Sun spot. Back to the seniority thing... 3 or the people on my team have played TDG previous years. adding up to 6-7 years total. Jet 1 yr, Me 2 years, and Jim 3-4 years. How many yrs of TDG experience does 3 C's and a D have? team Skinny? If it came down to years played, then our team would have seniority over quite a few teams ( 3 Sun teams i believe).


Huh not sure that would be a fair way to look at it Troy. I think team seniority should be based on actual years a team has played. Some of you guys all have played team before on different teams true , but your team is younger than ours by a couple of days. WMD is older than us by a couple of days. My two cents.

Cindy :)

[Trozzle!!!]

from my understanding, "seniority" in TDG has been measured by the total number of years each player on a team has played. If a team like Putt This came back with lets say, Jeff Haggerty ( who has 1 yr TDG experience i think) and a bunch of people who never played TDG, do they deserve a sunday spot over a team who has 6-7 yrs of TDG experience? I think not. Just because the Team Name has been around doesnt mean they are the same established team. They would be a bunch of newbies, and 1 experienced guy.

I am not picking on PUtt This, just the name I came up with since we played you guys last.

[Trozzle!!!]

Also I didnt play last year so my memory may be off. If you are going by Team names getting seniority, was there a 3 C's and a D last year? was there a Team Skinny? I dont think there was.

[Darr]

Also I didnt play last year so my memory may be off. If you are going by Team names getting seniority, was there a 3 C's and a D last year? was there a Team Skinny? I dont think there was.

Don't feed the troll!!!!
Troy never knows what he's talking about, don't worry Cindy this is no exception... :posting::posting:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Also I didnt play last year so my memory may be off. If you are going by Team names getting seniority, was there a 3 C's and a D last year? was there a Team Skinny? I dont think there was.

Will Odom replaced? Really?

Trozz..........go start your own thread! :shooting:

Bob:cop:

[Trozzle!!!]

start my own thread? hahaha

I state a very valid point about seniority in this thing. My team combined has played more years of TDG than 3 C's and a D, Team Skinny, and even the Rockwood Roughnecks. They are at least defending champs, so I cut them some slack. As far as total years played based on our players experience, we could have gotten a Sunday spot, if we didnt sign up so late. My original post was never about taking a Sun spot this year, but it was about a chance at next year.

This thread was about Will getting replaced, but it has changed. Mods feel free to make this a new thread.

[killa]

I hate being bore. I like to stir $hit up :)

HAHA not drinking and not trying to stir up $hit.

Posted 31 minutes apart. :rolleyes2:

[What Ever]

Hmmm I dont like popcorn What Ever

[Will of Doom]

hello to everyone this is Scotty B talking at you. I see that a few of you are upset with the decision. I made the choice and I will stand behind it 100% with the conditions being the way they are all winter long I didn't want Will to injure himself any further. I also did send a P.M. to both Shannon and Will prior to the match for some reason they did not get them also Shannon had my number and I never received hers because the day at timber was cut short. It's nice to see you all so concerned about the situation I had no intent of pissing off Will I know that he is an adult but I also watched him hobble around the course all day yes he shot a 63 but the choice was made for the long term I would rather Will be ready for the summer tournaments then injure his knee any further. I hope that none of you have to make a decision on someones well being in the future maybe we should have just let him stay on the ground and finished our afternoon round at Timber. In closing Will if you had something to say about the decision you should have spoke up you played the entire afternoon round with me at Pier and not waited to send it to me on the forum I hope this doesn't ruin what I thought was a pretty good relationship we had going I enjoy playing with you and Shannon so hopefuly we can move past this and have some fun.
I just want to point out a thing or two.
1- The reason I didn't talk to you on the course. I was pissed and thought it better to collect my thoughts then get back to you.
2- I didn't start this thread, I sent you a Private Message after collecting my thoughts a bit.
3- As previously stated. This isn't the first time I've dislocated a kneecap. Won't be the last either. I've played all gimped out before and will continue to do so.
4- Words from my physical therapist. "Your ok to play. You just have to play smart and safe and watch your footing."

Now that we're past that. I do appreciate that you are showing concern, I really do but what's best for my healing is to be out doing the stuff I do all the time. That's how the muscles and tendons will heal and get the strength back. True I may be a bit slow and have a limp but it's the best solution. As for my being pissed. I'm not pissed anymore, still not happy about the situation but what's done is done and it can't be reversed. So what i'll do is, still show up to each match and play the course. I'll just setup side rivalries like my match at North Bonneville with John Gorman.
Speaking of Bonneville, Hey Bob, you wanna piece of this. Lets figure out the handicap and have ourselves a match. I wanted to play you anyways. :cool:

[Will of Doom]

Thanks :) Yeah, I somehow never ended up with her number or yours. Sorry about that. I hope there isn't any hard feelings. My lesson is this, "read the forum, even when on vacation." Hope you're feeling better, man. See you on the course.

Most likely because we all got there a bit late and rushed to get the matches started. It's all good. I'm actually feeling lots better. Still have a bit of a limp but that's to be expected. These things take a few months to get back to normal.

[Sausage Fingers]

I just want to point out a thing or two.
1- The reason I didn't talk to you on the course. I was pissed and thought it better to collect my thoughts then get back to you.
2- I didn't start this thread, I sent you a Private Message after collecting my thoughts a bit.
3- As previously stated. This isn't the first time I've dislocated a kneecap. Won't be the last either. I've played all gimped out before and will continue to do so.
4- Words from my physical therapist. "Your ok to play. You just have to play smart and safe and watch your footing."

Now that we're past that. I do appreciate that you are showing concern, I really do but what's best for my healing is to be out doing the stuff I do all the time. That's how the muscles and tendons will heal and get the strength back. True I may be a bit slow and have a limp but it's the best solution. As for my being pissed. I'm not pissed anymore, still not happy about the situation but what's done is done and it can't be reversed. So what i'll do is, still show up to each match and play the course. I'll just setup side rivalries like my match at North Bonneville with John Gorman.
Speaking of Bonneville, Hey Bob, you wanna piece of this. Lets figure out the handicap and have ourselves a match. I wanted to play you anyways. :cool:

You are a Prince among men Will.:bowing:

There will always be players who are sitting out one of the rounds, so there should always be someone to play a round with at the events. There is no reason for you not to show up and play along, if that is what you want to do. Once part of the TDG family, it is real hard to become persona non grata. You should have no trouble getting some side matches in.:pirate:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

I'll just setup side rivalries like my match at North Bonneville with John Gorman.
Speaking of Bonneville, Hey Bob, you wanna piece of this. Lets figure out the handicap and have ourselves a match. I wanted to play you anyways. :cool:

YOU want a piece of ME? :laughing: You can't HANDLE a piece of me!:shooting:But, if you think you can HANG with the big boys, bring it on. :rolleyes2:GORMAN, you can decimate, but be prepared for a beat down from the OLD guy. :nahnah:

Bob

[Will of Doom]

YOU want a piece of ME? :laughing: You can't HANDLE a piece of me!:shooting:But, if you think you can HANG with the big boys, bring it on. :rolleyes2:GORMAN, you can decimate, but be prepared for a beat down from the OLD guy. :nahnah:

Bob

Bring it old man! :evilgrin:

[JMan]

-To will of Doom- "GORMAN, you can decimate,"

Bob
You going to take that Gor-Man :shocked:
careful Bob, remember Bullseye's old signature... :laughing:

[Minordiety]

You going to take that Gor-Man :shocked:
careful Bob, remember Bullseye's old signature... :laughing:

Hell J, what do I need to worry about from Will O' The Wisps. Ooops, I mean will of doom. :nahnah: