Meadow Ridge rating on DGCR

[sillybizz]

Meadow Ridge is getting a 4.81 on www.discgolfcoursereview.com right now, with two more reviews added it will have the minimum number of reviews to make the top ten. If it were added right now it would be number four, two spots above Whistler's Bend and four spots above Milo Mciver State Park. I live in Washington but I have been down there to play the new course twice now and it is awesome. All the people who have put in hard work to get the course so beautiful should be thanked, so I thank you.

[Adam Schneider]

Guess I'd better not review it then, my 4 will bring it down. :whistler:

[sillybizz]

It will just even out my five, hehe.

[Vector_2008]

If Meadow Ridge gets two more great reviews, it will really piss off the people at the Woodshed. It only has 11 reviews and would be pushed to number 5. There's going to be a review pissing contest.
Lucky for us it is freezing cold in W. Virginia.

I foresee a busy summer for Horning's Hideout this year.
Great job Bob.

[Bob Horning]

Thanks everyone, I'm actually very humbled by all this, and very thankful that everyone has enjoyed this and the other courses. Right now I'm working on the baskets on the canyon course, bringing them up to the Meadow Ridge caliber of targets.
Thanks:cheers:

[Adam Schneider]

Thanks everyone, I'm actually very humbled by all this, and very thankful that everyone has enjoyed this and the other courses. Right now I'm working on the baskets on the canyon course, bringing them up to the Meadow Ridge caliber of targets.
How does that work? Can you reconfigure them, or are you making whole new baskets?

Hey, by the way, put in short pads -- even gravel ones -- on Meadow Ridge and it's at least a 4.5 in my book. :) (I haven't given any course a 5 yet.) I can envision where you could put 'em on almost every hole.

[Bob Horning]

How does that work? Can you reconfigure them, or are you making whole new baskets?

Hey, by the way, put in short pads -- even gravel ones -- on Meadow Ridge and it's at least a 4.5 in my book. :) (I haven't given any course a 5 yet.) I can envision where you could put 'em on almost every hole.

I'm reconfiguring them, smaller tops, longer and one more set of chains so they match the certified baskets.

As far as short pads, perhaps by this fall, just got too much going on this spring and then summer hits when I'm swamped with summer events. Would like to go over your ideas sometime soon though, just so I can plan.

[Bob Horning]

One of the things I do have on slate this spring is to do a walk through with folks (some of the pros have been playing here, taking notes) and we'll be looking to do some final touches on the course. Admittedly there can be improvement, a couple of trees I did leave in just because it's harder to put them back up than take them out, and would rather give people some playing time to decide.

[Bluedisc]

One of the things I do have on slate this spring is to do a walk through with folks (some of the pros have been playing here, taking notes) and we'll be looking to do some final touches on the course. Admittedly there can be improvement, a couple of trees I did leave in just because it's harder to put them back up than take them out, and would rather give people some playing time to decide.
:yay:

[Bob Horning]

If Meadow Ridge gets two more great reviews, it will really piss off the people at the Woodshed. It only has 11 reviews and would be pushed to number 5. There's going to be a review pissing contest.
Lucky for us it is freezing cold in W. Virginia.

I foresee a busy summer for Horning's Hideout this year.
Great job Bob.

Your comment does bring up something that should be addressed, hopefully to keep there from being, as you put it, a pissing contest. Even though it would be great to be listed there, I think it should happen with only legitimate posts, and not posts just to attain a rating. Fluff posts, if filled with BS that is untrue or too dramatizing may disappoint folks when then get here and then in effect have the opposite result later.

[Adam Schneider]

Unfortunately, the nature of DGCR is that even with legitimate reviews, "pissing contests" happen. But the good news is, they seem to happen mostly with east-of-the-Rockies courses. I haven't seen crappy drive-by reviews of Oregon courses by disgruntled Flip City fans.

[sillybizz]

I really can't see anyone giving this course less then a 4.5 honestly. (sorry Adam)

The reviews that are up are all pretty informative and done well and don't just look like a local getting their course a higher score which should help with curbing any "pissing match" that might come.

Keep up the great work Bob!

[Adam Schneider]

I really can't see anyone giving this course less then a 4.5 honestly. (sorry Adam)
I can't help but review courses based on my own feelings about playing them. In their current configurations, I have a lot more fun playing the Canyon Course than Meadow Ridge. MR is certainly a 4.5-star course for big arms, but I don't have a big arm. (And I think the safety issues around 2-4 and 11-13 probably keep it from being 5 stars even for pros; 5 stars, in my book, means it could barely be improved at all.)

[Scott]

I agree with Adam. If I were to review it today I would probably give it four stars. It is an excellent course and I like it a lot but there are several factors that prevent me from giving it five stars: The aforementioned saftey issues, the walkouts (particularly to holes 1, 8, and 10), lack of am pads, and a few holes that seem to rely more on a lucky bounce than a skilled shot.

I'm not ripping the course or Bob's efforts here - I'd like to stress that I absolutely love this course (and maintain that it is the toughest course I've ever played) - I'm just pointing out that a few minor issues can justify giving a course a lower than perfect rating.

[sillybizz]

I don't have a big arm either (maybe 280 in the winter and 300 in the summer, I suck in colder weather) but I still enjoy the Meadow Ridge course, in fact it's my favorite Oregon course so far with the Canyon Course not far behind. MR out weighs Canyon for me because of the tee pads, new baskets and beautiful down hill throws. I believe a course can be five stars and still have flaws because EVERY course has flaws. I do see what you guys are saying though. I would say for me Seatac is tougher and so is Milo but it's still very hard, I shot a +15 or something like that the first time playing. Still all the Horning's Courses are going to remain in my top 10 for a long time.

[Adam Schneider]

MR out weighs Canyon for me because of the tee pads, new baskets and beautiful down hill throws.
FYI, Canyon now has the same big-ass pads, and the baskets will be upgraded soon too.

[sillybizz]

Really? A group of us are trying to make the trip down there tomorrow morning (very early) to play a night golf round at Highland and then play the others in the day time. This is awesome news, I will love the Canyon course even more now then, that's so awesome.

[smobro]

Really? A group of us are trying to make the trip down there tomorrow morning (very early) to play a night golf round at Highland and then play the others in the day time. This is awesome news, I will love the Canyon course even more now then, that's so awesome.

What time are you going to be playing HH tomorrow?

[sillybizz]

What time are you going to be playing HH tomorrow?

I don't know yet, I'm waiting on my friend to call me tonight but we are thinking of leaving here around 2am which puts us at Horning's around 5:30 to 6:00am, and playing the Highlands around that time and then probably Canyon and then MR after that. You down to join us?

[Bob Horning]

I don't know yet, I'm waiting on my friend to call me tonight but we are thinking of leaving here around 2am which puts us at Horning's around 5:30 to 6:00am, and playing the Highlands around that time and then probably Canyon and then MR after that. You down to join us?

The solar lights on the Highland course does not power up very well in the winter and at 6 AM there won't be any on. You're welcome to set up other lights like glow sticks, just letting you know :cheers:

[sillybizz]

I didn't think about that, dangit, thanks for the info Bob.

[Vector_2008]

Your comment does bring up something that should be addressed, hopefully to keep there from being, as you put it, a pissing contest. Even though it would be great to be listed there, I think it should happen with only legitimate posts, and not posts just to attain a rating. Fluff posts, if filled with BS that is untrue or too dramatizing may disappoint folks when then get here and then in effect have the opposite result later.

I wish I could write a proper review on MR, but I haven't played it yet. I was there 2 weeks ago and played the Canyon and the Highlands. Not enough time in the winter day.

Since it still new and some change are still likely to happen I'll just wait on doing a review.
I really want to play it several times anyway.

Keep giving us updates on the course and maybe I'll be able to give a 6.0 review in the future. :D

[sillybizz]

I didn't get to go down there the other day but I'm leaving in about five hours to leave for Horning's Hideout. If you want to play with us (we have a group of four) or just want to say hello, I'm wearing a red Discraft hat.

[Hippy007]

just made it and landed at number 3. Congrats on the nice course Bob.

Hippy007
:cool2:

[sillybizz]

Yep, HHMR is now #3 in the country in rating on DGCR!!!!! I love this course! Thank you Bob! :) Headed down there this weekend!!!

[Bob Horning]

Yep, HHMR is now #3 in the country in rating on DGCR!!!!! I love this course! Thank you Bob! :) Headed down there this weekend!!!

I am so humbled, ecstatic, pumped and awed all at once. I have not been on for a few days and just checked today's forum (the 28th) and am totally floored.

Have not had a chance to do too much lately, but will be putting in more split rail fencing, hooks for hanging bags on posts, and benches.

Thanks All!!

[sillybizz]

#2 on DGCR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats Horning's Crew!!! :yay:

[Tim]

No offense to Bob et al, but there's no way Meadow Ridge is #2 in the world. Great course, no doubt, but it's the obvious flaw of the DGCR rating system.

[Adam Schneider]

Its rating has been creeping up partly because it hasn't been caught up in the fights between the other top courses. Apparently, Flip City & Idlewild have detractors who go in and enter poor ratings just to be pissy.

[Uhlman]

Its rating has been creeping up partly because it hasn't been caught up in the fights between the other top courses. Apparently, Flip City & Idlewild have detractors who go in and enter poor ratings just to be pissy.

That, and it's an average. Aaverages are inherently flawed. In the case of DGCR subjective too. There is nothing worse then a subjective average.

[sillybizz]

You know I haven't played any of the courses in the top ten that aren't in Oregon and Meadow Ridge is my favorite course (tied with the Canyon Course) and I realize it probably isn't the 2nd best in the world but I wasn't going to mention that to bring down the Horning's Crew but you guys did it anyways. :rolleyes: The Horning's people are so awesome and did such a great job and all three courses that I think they deserve to see the fruits of their labor. So good job Bob and the rest of the Horning's Crew. :)

[Scott]

Yes, the rating system subjective and probably flawed. #2 in the world? Maybe. Maybe not.

Even though it's not precisely accurate, it does give you a good general picture. And that picture is that Meadow Ridge has become a very highly regarded course in a very short time.

[Tim]

Absolutely Bob and the crew have done, and continue to do, a great job, no doubt about it. And having 3 courses on private property with camping, fishing, and peacocks really make it something special.

The courses do deserve a lot of positive feedback, but there does become a point where it's "blowing smoke up one's ass" so to speak.

[sillybizz]

I find it funny that people say I'm negative when confronting someone who is doing something so wrong and then I'm an ass kisser because I praise someone who is doing something so awesome, I guess I can't win. I just call it like I see it.

[Tim]

I'm not singling you out, Tom. More venting about the disparity of ratings on DGCR. Having a top ranked course on there seems to hinge on having a bunch of loyalists who spend a lot of time on the internet.

[sillybizz]

I'm not singling you out, Tom. More venting about the disparity of ratings on DGCR. Having a top ranked course on there seems to hinge on having a bunch of loyalists who spend a lot of time on the internet.

Gotcha. Sorry.

Yeah I've heard from several different people that Flip City wasn't nearly as good as they were expecting although being #1 forever you would have high expectations as well. I find it odd that people care that much to give a fake review/bad rating of their course's "competitor" just to vote it down. On a side note, Sheila and Andrew rave about Highbridge Gold and they are damn good judges of courses.

[Bob Horning]

#2 on DGCR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats Horning's Crew!!! :yay:

I just logged on, haven't been on as much lately with the Senate race, Damn politics. This is humbling to say the least. That and it does look like a pissing contest elsewhere. As I said on either this thread or another one, I would rather have honest reviews than not.

One thing I will say, we still have a lot of plans to improve the play out here, and make it a lot nicer. I do want to put down a lot more picnic tables and benches, finish the split rails at the tee pads and put up a kiosk at the beginning of every course with a course map. I already have the 2 x 3 ft maps, just have not had time to put them up (damn politics again). And hopefully next year we'll also get small cement pads for the Highland course.

My thanks to everyone, and thanks to my crew who has helped me build these courses. I'm glad that this place has been such a good fit for Disc Golf!!

[Sean Johnson]

Bob- played your course last weekend and again I was blown away by Meadow Ridge and the whole compound. I ended up playing some night golf and I overshot #13 on the short course. It was a downhill shot and I buried it in what is apparently a large patch of stinging nettles. I ended up itchy and empty handed, but if anyone cares to look, I'll give a $10 reward to anyone who finds my bar-stamped yellow buzzz and ships it up to Spokane. BTW: I showed up three months after I got a call on a lost disc (Hole 8 on Meadow Ridge), and when I came down I found that you guys had held it the whole time for me. Thanks again, and thanks for making such and incredible disc golf destination