View Full Version : what does it mean to remove the "flashing" from a new disc?
killa
December 24th, 2009, 02:58 AM
How is it done?
What does it accomplish?
REDFIVE
December 24th, 2009, 03:35 AM
If there is any extra plastic from the molding process it is refered to as flashing. Usually found on the edge or even on the bottom of the rim. I am not sure how removing it changes flight if at all but it does make the disc more comfortable to hold. I have a champ boss that has a very very sharp bottom rim. I haven't thrown it yet because it is. A freaking beautiful piece of plastic but when I do it might not be very kind to my fingers.
Tim
December 24th, 2009, 06:25 AM
The flashing will make the disc more stable, it essentially works as a tiny bead. But yeah, like Chris said, it's mostly a comfort thing for me, especially in cold/wet weather. You can sand it off, spin it back and forth on a carpet (works best on the tight weave you see in commercial type carpets), or slice it off with a razor blade or xacto. Or you can just let it wear off naturally.
captain jack
December 24th, 2009, 11:52 AM
Yep, the previous posters are correct.
When you go into a store and handle a bunch of discs, you will feel the little sharp plastic edge that sticks up off the bottom inside edge of the rim.
Some discs also have a small circle of flashing near the center of the flight plate, this you will see referred to as a " belly button ".
A belly button doesnt hurt your hands, but being in a spot where air needs to flow smoothly over your disc, it can affect the flight.
Belly buttons I carefully remove with a razor blade, rim flashing I just grind on flat pavement for 10 seconds until its smooth enough to be comfortable in my hands.
Ol' Bob
December 24th, 2009, 02:09 PM
I don't contemplate the navel, or sweat the belly button. When I tape a battery and three LEDs underneath the flight plate, it hardly makes a difference. I can't see the airflow under the disc hardly being affected. Just my two pennies.
blang11
January 12th, 2010, 10:19 PM
Yep, the previous posters are correct.
When you go into a store and handle a bunch of discs, you will feel the little sharp plastic edge that sticks up off the bottom inside edge of the rim.
Some discs also have a small circle of flashing near the center of the flight plate, this you will see referred to as a " belly button ".
A belly button doesnt hurt your hands, but being in a spot where air needs to flow smoothly over your disc, it can affect the flight.
Belly buttons I carefully remove with a razor blade, rim flashing I just grind on flat pavement for 10 seconds until its smooth enough to be comfortable in my hands.
This is what I like about Discraft. They seem to be much better about removing the flashing, especially around the "belly button". Whether it really effects a disc's flight or not (discernibly), I just don't like it there. It's distracting and unsightly. I have had some Innova discs, particularly my latest champ Boss, that had a ton of extra material on the belly button. I never could cut it off or sand it down enough. It just look mangled. Discraft obviously pays more attention to detail in that respect, because their discs always have a nicely smoothed out belly button.
Toby Puttzinski
January 13th, 2010, 01:12 AM
Discraft discs are 'innies' I suppose. My new CE leopards have more flashing than Janet Jackson, and they're much sharper as well. My leopards don't have much in the way of nipples though.
I'm leaning toward the 'road rash removal' method over the 'carpet burn' or the slice n dice technique-- it seems that it would help break in the disc a bit quicker which is what I'd like to accomplish...
Outside of running over a disc or throwing it into a tree repeatedly, what are some other ideas for quickly 'seasoning' a fairway driver?
mazza
January 13th, 2010, 09:00 AM
Outside of running over a disc or throwing it into a tree repeatedly, what are some other ideas for quickly 'seasoning' a fairway driver?
from what i have found to help is....leave the disc in your front yard and let the weather beat it in for ya
General Scales
January 13th, 2010, 09:05 AM
One of the biggest things I look for in a disc when purchasing it is that the flashing is at a minimum or non existent. After trying unsuccessfully many times to do the razor around the rim technique (ruined both my SL's that way) I stopped buying discs that had major flashing issues.
The worst disc flashing issues seem to come of Star Plastic. Don't know why but they always have tons of extra materials (at least from my experience).
As for seasoning a disc quick, don't. I have tried to beat discs quick to replace my favorite old beat discs and they never fly the same. It seems that the haste to beat them makes you overlook that the disc may fly different from the beginning and you lose that wonderful opportunity to learn what that particular disc does well. Isn't that one of the best things about disc golf in the first place?
NWDiscer
January 13th, 2010, 09:07 AM
Outside of running over a disc or throwing it into a tree repeatedly, what are some other ideas for quickly 'seasoning' a fairway driver?
put a few discs in a pillow case add in a chunk or 2 of tree branch then toss them in the dryer for 15 minutes and your good to go........:shocked:
disclaimer: i have never tried this and this post is just a stupid joke early in the morning :evilgrin::rolleyes2:
i have always used the tree method for super quick seasoning. :wink2:
Ol' Bob
January 13th, 2010, 10:29 AM
Has anyone thought of quality control?
I got a disc for Christmas, sent from a seller in Topeka Kansas. It's an R-Pro Katana and it has one of the most extreme edge flashings I've seen. I've tried to cut it away with a sharp knife but that thin soft R-Pro just wants to ball up and stretch and turn into hair. I quit trying that after the first half inch, not wanting to make it a worse problem. This one should have never escaped the factory. I bet that never occurred to Innova.
JMan
January 13th, 2010, 10:40 AM
If I have to remove some flashing I just use sandpaper, 220 works great. But Discraft has little to deal with, Buzzzes mostly, and then more often Pro D not the better plastics. Don't know why innovaland has such a issue with this, and more lately yhan before. 220 grit sandpaper, heck I keep some in the bag at all times for damage during a round.
Ol' Bob
January 13th, 2010, 11:01 AM
I thought of that but was afraid the R-Pro would just ball up. It's weird stuff. Like a greasy rubber.
General Scales
January 13th, 2010, 12:25 PM
Variances in plastic molding done at one of the three innova factories probably account for the massive flashing issue. The question is what factory does the best and which does the worst?
Maybe I should apply for a Quality Assurance Manager at one of the factories. That way I can destroy them from the inside...:evilgrin:
The worst flashing I have ever seen though belongs to the Aerobee disc golf discs. Especially the Sharpshooter. The disc sucks in the first place and every single one of those damn rings on top of the disc has sharp enough flashing to make new razor blades seem dull. Watched my buddy rip open his throwing hand with a brand new one. Which in turn found it promptly thrown into the river.
DMajor
January 13th, 2010, 12:35 PM
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Outside of running over a disc or throwing it into a tree repeatedly, what are some other ideas for quickly 'seasoning' a fairway driver?[/QUOTE]
I once washed all of the discs in my bag in a bucket of very hot soapy water and they seemed to all become a little more elastic after soaking for awhile. I haven't tried this but the one time as I prefer to break my discs in the old fashioned way by slamming them in to trees that I am attempting to miss.
Ol' Bob
January 13th, 2010, 07:03 PM
I've mentioned it before, but I find my FLX discs' grippiness changes in time. I think finger oil soaks into the outside layer and they get slipperier. A quick wipe around the rim with acetone and they're instantly like new for a good many huks.
mbr
January 13th, 2010, 10:16 PM
I like the acetone idea. i usually just clean mine with hot water and dish soap especially my photon glow(keeping dirt from grinding in between sessions). think ill be running to Homedepot tomorrow.:cheers:
Ol' Bob
January 13th, 2010, 11:11 PM
It's worth the brain cells (I think).
TreeLove
January 13th, 2010, 11:15 PM
I heard of a disc golfer who threw all white discs, and he was obsessed with keeping them pristine clean white. Purportedly, he cleaned them regularly with acetone, and they looked brand new clean at all times.
Toby Puttzinski
January 14th, 2010, 12:36 AM
OCD... obsessive compulsive discorder.
DiscGolfOregon3
January 14th, 2010, 05:11 AM
OSD . . . Obsessive Stickiness Disorder
-Derek :cool:
www.DiscGolfOregon.com
Celeste
January 14th, 2010, 09:48 AM
I've used drywall sandpaper. The holes don't seem to get full of plastic or gum up like wood sandpaper
Ol' Bob
January 14th, 2010, 10:33 AM
I'll try that first.
The Course Bro
January 14th, 2010, 11:55 AM
Want clean discs? Dishwasher. TURN OFF HEATED DRY. Run with detergent. WILL REMOVE SOME HOTSTAMPS. Otherwise hot water and simple green with a teflon safe scrubber seems to clean up most stains. Pitch and road tar needs goof-off or acetone.
Still working on old sharpie removal. I need some kind of solvent that will sink into the disc like the dye/ink in the sharpie and eradicate it. Any new products on late night TV that I've missed?
New Oxyclean for Disc Golf?
Shamwow Sharpie-be-gone?
emmarose
January 14th, 2010, 01:45 PM
Sheesh... and my friends call me a disc primper 'cause I use my sham-wow before every throw whether I need it or not... ;)
Ol' Bob
January 14th, 2010, 02:29 PM
If you find a chemical that can penetrate the plastic to remove old Sharpie, you could wind up turning it either to goo or peanut brittle.
captain jack
January 14th, 2010, 05:51 PM
Still working on old sharpie removal. I need some kind of solvent that will sink into the disc like the dye/ink in the sharpie and eradicate it. Any new products on late night TV that I've missed?
New Oxyclean for Disc Golf?
Shamwow Sharpie-be-gone?
There is nothing that you can use to leach the Sharpie back to the surface, over time, all inks and dyes continue to sink deeper into the plastic.
I bought a disc from Lowell recently, that he didnt like, but he had written his name and number in Sharpie on the rim.
I did my best with Goof Off, but it was still very prominent, so I just did a quick rim dye, floating the disc rim side down in a shallow plate with dye in it.
Problem solved. :D
The Course Bro
January 14th, 2010, 07:52 PM
Good thinking.
I wonder if there is some way I could create a vacuum over the sharpie and suck it out of the disc?
Anyone work in a physic lab?
Magilla
January 15th, 2010, 08:46 AM
I've used drywall sandpaper. The holes don't seem to get full of plastic or gum up like wood sandpaper
Open Mesh Plumbers Sand Cloth works awesome (Used for cleaning the ends of Copper pipe before soldering)....It holds up alot better than Drywall Sandpaper which tends to fall apart rather quickly. I keep a roll in my bag at all times (especially when playing Mtn events) Not only is it good for "Flashing" but also great for burrs, etc that build up on a "well tuned disc"
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Celeste
January 15th, 2010, 09:46 AM
Open Mesh Plumbers Sand Cloth works awesome (Used for cleaning the ends of Copper pipe before soldering)....It holds up alot better than Drywall Sandpaper which tends to fall apart rather quickly. I keep a roll in my bag at all times (especially when playing Mtn events) Not only is it good for "Flashing" but also great for burrs, etc that build up on a "well tuned disc"
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I'll have to try that. The drywall sandpaper does fall apart especially when it gets really wet.
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