pro payout talk

[Flatroc]

How far down should the pro fields should cash? (PDGA or not)
30-40-50 percent?
thanks
yose

[Bullseye]

How far down should the pro fields should cash? (PDGA or not)
30-40-50 percent?
thanks
yose

30% is too shallow.

50% is too deep.

40% is just right. :)

[all2common]

Matt B. said:
I'm just happy that I am consistent. Whether it's real dg or fantasy dg I can be found one place out of the cash.


I would say, one spot above wherever Benotsch finished.

[Dave Pittman]

Yose,

For singles events the Willamette Disc Golf Club pays the top 40% for Pros whether PDGA sanctioned or not.

The Disc Golf Club of Albany has paid the top 45% at the Calapooia Classic over the years and will continue to do that. The Pros also receive a full players pack at the CC. This is a tradition with the DGCA and it will continue. At DGCA club events we pay top 40%.

For doubles events I'm pretty sure both clubs pay the top 33% give or take.

David

[Matt B.]

Matt B. said:


I would say, one spot above wherever Benotch finished.

I don't know what hurts more, the accuracy of this statement of the misspelling of my name.

Go wash your socks, Hiatt!

:smash:

[REDFIVE]

I like payouts to be top heavy, 30-40%. 30 is more my liking but 40 is fair.

[snap7times]

pdga has it's guidelines, follow those for pdga... but 40 percent is about right... 50 percent sucks...

[Sam]

45. I like bucking trends. :)

[Sean Phillips]

I think top 1/3 pay out is good.

Pro's shouldn't get paid out past that. Pro's should have graduated from grade school, learned how to share, and most importantly know how to lose. :waaah::waaah::waaah:

I think the top performers of a tournament should be rewarded. I don't think mediocre less than average golf should be rewarded. Of course this is all relative to the competition.

When we finally get PGA money then we can start paying out like the PGA



This post sounds angry :laughing:

[Chuck Kennedy]

When we finally get PGA money then we can start paying out like the PGA
(which is half the field):trophy:

[DexterHawk]

You want big guns pay 30
you want big fields pay 50

[Parks]

I like the Obama payout, 100% of the field.

[JMittl]

2009 BSF paid top 40% for pros.

[Magilla]

pdga has it's guidelines, follow those for pdga... but 40 percent is about right... 50 percent sucks...


:trophy:

I have a method for 50% payout that HAS worked......:whistler:

[Chuck Kennedy]

Payout tables for PDGA events outside North America are for 25%, 33% and 40% with 25% being common. For several pro events there might be 0% payout since the full entry fee, which can be low by U.S. standards ($10-$20), pays for expenses to run the event.

[GettinBetter]

I say 50% but only bottom 40% get buy-ins back. I say have only the final 9 group get the dough, unless there are more than 40 pros signed up. That would give a lot of incentive to perform well and may also draw bigger fields. Just a thought

[DoubleDees]

top 10%... dont suck

[snap7times]

I thinking, what about 40%, but keep added cash for top finishers, based on how many entries.

[Milpond]

1/3 payouts and keep your stupid t-shirt and Z-pro Viking or whatever POS disc you're handing out. Maybe get a few extra players packs and let the pros buy them if they want. When did this trend of giving the pro divisions a players pack start anyhow? Probably right around the time that TD's started figuring their payout stats based on retail instead of cost???

Just my two cents as a mostly non-cashing pro:blush:

[Tim]

When did this trend of giving the pro divisions a players pack start anyhow? Probably right around the time that TD's started figuring their payout stats based on retail instead of cost???


I was thinking it was more when pros were whining about never getting any player packs. ;)

[Flash]

I was thinking it was more when pros were whining about never getting any player packs. ;)

Ding Ding Ding, thanks for filling Dustin in Tim.

The 2009 BSF used a 40% payout but in most Cases the 45% payout would have changed very little as far as more people getting a check. It does however push more to the bottom. I like a 45-50% payout but it needs to be more rewarding to the top end not the middle of the pack. The lowest payout for last place should always be your money back!

The BSF will always stay within the PDGA guidelines as long as I can reach the helm!

[Ol' Bob]

...right around the time that TD's started figuring their payout stats based on retail instead of cost???

I get it. It's like every time I used to work for a tavern owner, they always wanted to pay me off in draft beers.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

1/3 payouts and keep your stupid t-shirt and Z-pro Viking or whatever POS disc you're handing out. Maybe get a few extra players packs and let the pros buy them if they want. When did this trend of giving the pro divisions a players pack start anyhow? Probably right around the time that TD's started figuring their payout stats based on retail instead of cost???

Just my two cents as a mostly non-cashing pro:blush:

Can I have your HukBrella from the BSF? Please? :biggrin2:

Bob

[papatart]

I like the old top third thing, but 40% is the PDGA guide and not much difference there. As for players packs---yeah, I guess I'm not that much into them but I am always a sucker for more money being spent on cool trophies. Money won at an event isn't usually that much and it just get's spent and forgotten whereas trophies are great memories and very cool ones are always the best.

As for the comments about figuring out payout at retail (sorry about this thread drift) I wish everyone would get over this and give it a rest. As the general public, the packs and prizes you get are figured at retail because that is how much YOU would normally pay for them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this and most of the time the TD is putting the money differential back into the event anyway so just relax. (Although I still wish the TD's would pay themselves but that is a whole 'nother topic).

As for those wishing that only the top 10% or top 4 get paid out----just stop that thought right now. Generally the only money you are playing for is the cash that the non-winning players have put in. There are many who come to participate because they at least have a chance to get in the money. With only a short list on the payout it will not increase the pay, but generally decrease the pay.

The only tourney I have ever seen to be succesful with the huge payout up top was Put Up or Shut Up. This was one division, one round and one guy wins all the money. It was a twenty dollar entry fee, five went to pay for the dinner that ALL players got after the afternoon round (huge Mexican feast!) and the other $15 went into the pot. The last year we did this the winner (Brian Schweberger) walked away with a cool $1000.00 for eighteen holes of golf. The reason it worked was that I put one touring pro on each card and for your entry fee you got to place your card on the hole of the pro that you wanted to watch play their best for a thousand dollars, first come first served. While we had some local pros come out in hopes of winning, most of the cards were filled with amateurs and novices who just wanted a chance to play a tournament round with one of the best (Schultz, Todd, Anthon, Schweberger, Rico, Feldberg, Jenkins ...etc).

So until corporate sponsorship happens, be totally satisfied with the 40% payout and I know I am always looking forward to the events with the cool trophies (ps...any TD that has cool trophies, let me know and I would happily make the trip to try and win cool schwag!)

Later,
Scott Papa

[Tim]

Well said, Scott. That Put Up or Shut Up sounds like it was a blast, it's too bad you're not doing tourneys anymore, because I totally would have liked to participate in that.

BTW, we've got some pretty sweet trophies for Terror Creek this year, not to mention Andrew's most prestigious Throwbot trophy. ;)

[Milpond]

I totally agree with the "cool trophy" talk. Great point!

[Sean Phillips]

Another shout out for bad ass trophies.:yay::drool::drool:

[bvdisc]

Another shout out for bad ass trophies.:yay::drool::drool:

A badass trophy for me is one that I can use (e.g. the tie-die bags that Nate and Brianna put together for the GNO, or the mugs that have been given out before). The last thing I need is something to clutter my garage. Maybe some people have trophy rooms but I just don't have any use for displaying many trophies. Make them useful or save the money and put it into something else. The first couple of times you win a trophy you're totally stoked but once you have a handful they start taking up room and aren't so cool. I know a lot of other pros that feel the same way.