WA TEAM DG edition #2

[Toby Puttzinski]

I'm in the same boat as Tim... no really, we're literally in a boat, mofo, we're in a boat!

[olydiscgolf]

Thanks for all of the ideas and feedback guys. Much appreciated, well most of it anyway. Up to this point nothing is set in stone, but we are looking to expand the league to include more players and teams. This could possibly, and I mean "possibly" have two divisions.

I will be gathering with the powers that be in the coming weeks to come up with a plan for the season.

Keep the feedback coming, I'm always interested to hear your ideas, but please don't be disappointed if your ideas don't get used.

Stay Tuned,
Chris

[JR Stengele]

Thanks for all of the ideas and feedback guys. Much appreciated, well most of it anyway. Up to this point nothing is set in stone, but we are looking to expand the league to include more players and teams. This could possibly, and I mean "possibly" have two divisions.

I will be gathering with the powers that be in the coming weeks to come up with a plan for the season.

Keep the feedback coming, I'm always interested to hear your ideas, but please don't be disappointed if your ideas don't get used.

Stay Tuned,
Chris

Hey Chris,

Want to buy a raffle ticket?:D

[sillybizz]

Hey Chris,

Want to buy a raffle ticket?:D

Do I have to be there during the drawing to win???? :laughing: :jumpspin:

[olydiscgolf]

Hey Chris,

Want to buy a raffle ticket?:D

Sure Stengele, I will buy a raffle ticket!

How about you? Wanna buy in to the basket toss?

[JR Stengele]

Sure Stengele, I will buy a raffle ticket!

How about you? Wanna buy in to the basket toss?

Ummmm not at this time Gilberts.
Don't be jealous but I get to go to a wedding that weekend. Yeah...:waaah:
Way better then having fun all weekend at a great tournament.:slapface:
The choices you make when your married.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Has anyone heard of anything more on the wa state team disc? Oregon is having some prelim. Coming up and a schedule.........hmmmmff.......i want a schedule to.

[sillybizz]

Yeah I'm interested as well. I need some information to find out if I'm even going to be able to play this year. Chris,Eric is there anything coming soon?

[olydiscgolf]

Yeah I'm interested as well. I need some information to find out if I'm even going to be able to play this year. Chris,Eric is there anything coming soon?

Sorry for the delay guys, I will be getting things going shortly. Life is busy these days! It sounds like Eric Lund is out of the picture this year, he has a lot going on too!

Thomas, I would love to see you on board again. I would plan on a similar schedule as last year starting early January.

[sillybizz]

Sorry for the delay guys, I will be getting things going shortly. Life is busy these days! It sounds like Eric Lund is out of the picture this year, he has a lot going on too!

Thomas, I would love to see you on board again. I would plan on a similar schedule as last year starting early January.

I would love to be on board again, too, though my new duties at Chainbangerz are taking Sunday away from me and that was the day we used last year. Sad to hear Eric is out of the picture, he seemed to be a great asset with lots of good ideas. I'm sure you can pick up the slack and make team golf as fun or more than it was last year which would be hard to top. I look forward to hearing more. :rockon:

Thomas

[olydiscgolf]

Team Captains, check your inbox. The first correspondents of team golf have been sent. The first major hurtle of TDG has been overcome. Thanks to Morgan Rothrock for stepping up to help fill Eric Lund's shoes as computer guru/ stats geek.

Stay tuned

[Jeremy Frieling]

Team Captains, check your inbox. The first correspondents of team golf have been sent. The first major hurtle of TDG has been overcome. Thanks to Morgan Rothrock for stepping up to help fill Eric Lund's shoes as computer guru/ stats geek.

Stay tuned

Will you post a list of captains? So that players are able to contact their area/course captain to express interest in a spot? Thanks again Chris for putting this on. You are rad!

[olydiscgolf]

Will you post a list of captains? So that players are able to contact their area/course captain to express interest in a spot? Thanks again Chris for putting this on. You are rad!

At this point I'm still waiting to hear back from all of the original captains. I will leave it up to the captains to decide who is on their respective teams.


I am looking to expand this years TDG. I already have a couple of new captains lined up, but If anybody is interested in captaining a team you can contact me. Keep in mind, that I'm still going with a "course represented team", so have a course in mind before you apply.

Thanks folks, and captains get off your butt and reply!

[LakeStevensBA]

There was early talk about a north and south division. Is that still a possibility?

[olydiscgolf]

There was early talk about a north and south division. Is that still a possibility?

Yes, it is a possibility. I'm working out the logistics of keeping travel to a minimum, but I am shooting for a North/ South sort of split.

[BigBubbBelly]

Yeah, what about us northenders? Are we excluded or what? Dont tell me everyone is scared of us kats out here at Lake Stevens? I know were all looked at funny cause of our baskets, but come one guys. Let us have a north end team. Like BA said, we bring beer to all of our events.

[mazza]

Yeah, what about us northenders? Are we excluded or what? Dont tell me everyone is scared of us kats out here at Lake Stevens? I know were all looked at funny cause of our baskets, but come one guys. Let us have a north end team. Like BA said, we bring beer to all of our events.

get a couple of captains for a couple of teams....and throw ur money in the hat

[BigBubbBelly]

Done and done. When is the deadline? Who do we contact? Thanks guys for keeping us in mind.

[mazza]

i belive this ir chris gilby's baby.... not sure of the correct info(so don't take my word for it) gilby has final word.....


chris gilby AKA olydiscgolf

[BigBubbBelly]

Again, thanks for keeping us in mind. Ive contacted some people and got positive replys. Enough for 1 team and then some. I know of some more guys and gals that would play. Enough to give us 2 teams. Keep me posted.

[mazza]

Again, thanks for keeping us in mind. Ive contacted some people and got positive replys. Enough for 1 team and then some. I know of some more guys and gals that would play. Enough to give us 2 teams. Keep me posted.

i wanna say that the teams willl make up of 9 players...3 of each divison

[Cajun]

Predicting L.S.U. - Lake Stevens Underground goes undefeated at home.

[Yardbird]

FYI..... The rules and schedule for the 2011 Washington State Team Disc Golf are close to being finalized and will be sent to the captains as soon as Chris Gilberts has performed one last review.

[olydiscgolf]

Im out of town, so I'll be brief. I have all of the captains lined up. There will be ten teams comprised of 9 person rosters. The teams that are represented: White River, Riverside, Oly, Steilly (x2), Terrace Creek, Shelton, Sea Tac, West Sound (2x). There will be only one division. I was shooting for two divisions, but logistically it didn't work out this year. There will be a total of 8 events. One rating establishing round (mandotory for non-rated players), Six regular season events, one Championship event.

Next week when I get home, I will finalize the schedule and post/email all relevant info to the captains.

Again, I appologize for the delay, but like I said before, life is busy! Thank you to Sammy Huff for helping me do the leg work, there is no way I could do it without him!

Chris Gilberts

[Sausage Fingers]

Im out of town, so I'll be brief. I have all of the captains lined up. There will be ten teams comprised of 9 person rosters. The teams that are represented: White River, Riverside, Oly, Steilly (x2), Terrace Creek, Shelton, Sea Tac, West Sound (2x). There will be only one division. I was shooting for two divisions, but logistically it didn't work out this year. There will be a total of 8 events. One rating establishing round (mandotory for non-rated players), Six regular season events, one Championship event.

Next week when I get home, I will finalize the schedule and post/email all relevant info to the captains.

Again, I appologize for the delay, but like I said before, life is busy! Thank you to Sammy Huff for helping me do the leg work, there is no way I could do it without him!

Chris Gilberts

Nice Job Washington Team Disc Golf! 90 players in only your second year!:yay:

:pirate:

[REDFIVE]

RIVERSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sillybizz]

Since us North enders are getting screwed with these teams/schedule for driving time who would be interested in a North end Team Golf next year? I know Lake Stevens guys are totally down and I think we could get 6 teams full pretty easy. Maybe I should create a different thread? Thoughts?

[TYVEK]

Since us North enders are getting screwed with these teams/schedule for driving time who would be interested in a North end Team Golf next year? I know Lake Stevens guys are totally down and I think we could get 6 teams full pretty easy. Maybe I should create a different thread? Thoughts?

how are you guys getting hosed? i thought that it was going to be more of a north/ south deal this year so that there wasnt alot of long travels for everybody.

[LakeStevensBA]

I thought it was a north/south league as well. Other than Terrace, there are no north end teams. There is a lot of interest up here and we were hoping to get in on this. So Thomas, yes...Lake Stevens will represent if we get a north end league going. You can put together an Arlington team, Jub a Silver lake team and Cajun......a Snohomish team....

oh...I just realized Thomas was talking about next year already. Damn...I was really hoping we could participate this year.....Hmmmm..

[sillybizz]

I guess "getting screwed" wasn't the right wording; people from Shelton aren't going to want to drive to Lake Stevens and people from Everett/lake Stevens aren't going to want to do the same and most of the basis of Chris' TG is from that area so don't think I'm bashing Chris, that was not my intention. I understand why it is the way it is but it would be nice to get the North end players who want to play who can't do all the driving involved.

@BA: Maybe a late summer/fall league would be the closest I would be since details need to be worked out.

[LJ Jubner]

You guys should wait till Chris comes back from vacation.

[sillybizz]

I started a new thread about North end Team Golf here: http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?p=82777#post82777

[REDFIVE]

Dont get too excited yet guys. Wait for Chris and make some suggestions for next year. Let Chris work it out. It is only the 2nd year for the format. It would be cool to start a little earlier next year and have 2 divisions and do a championship between the winners of each division at a neutral site. Just be patient and the format will be all you hope it to be.

If you want something for this year and cant get on a team do a northside winter series with an event on the weekends that team disc golf is not playing. That would be awesome.

[mazza]

Nice Job Washington Team Disc Golf! 90 players in only your second year!:yay:

:pirate:

3rd year sir

[The Ombudsman]

Why not expand the size of the teams to ten or or twelve or more?

[olydiscgolf]

3rd year sir

No Mazza, 2nd year.

[olydiscgolf]

Why not expand the size of the teams to ten or or twelve or more?

Because a course can only accomodate so many players at one time. 10-nine person teams is already pushing it!

[BigBubbBelly]

I agree with Red Five. Lets get a north end league goin this winter. It can take place on opposite weekends from the TG series.

[mazza]

No Mazza, 2nd year.

well good thing this is not the first time i've been wrong....lmao

[The Ombudsman]

Because a course can only accomodate so many players at one time. 10-nine person teams is already pushing it!

But not all teams are playing the same course at the same time.
With 12 player teams and everyone playing, only 6 holes would be in use at any one time on any one course.
How is that pushing it?
If the finals are limited to 6 teams, that is an even 72 players. Perfectly enough to fill 18 holes.
Our teams here have 16 players and everyone plays every round. We have yet to run out of room or daylight.

[olydiscgolf]

But not all teams are playing the same course at the same time.
With 12 player teams and everyone playing, only 6 holes would be in use at any one time on any one course.
How is that pushing it?
If the finals are limited to 6 teams, that is an even 72 players. Perfectly enough to fill 18 holes.
Our teams here have 16 players and everyone plays every round. We have yet to run out of room or daylight.

All teams are playing on the same course at the same time.

[The Ombudsman]

All teams are playing on the same course at the same time.

"I see", said the blind man.

[mazza]

"I see", said the blind man.

to the def man as he walked in to a pole

[olydiscgolf]

Here is the guidelines for WA TDG 2011. Thanks to Sammy Huff for all of his help.


Washington State Team Disc Golf (2011)


OVERVIEW
There will be a total of 7 Events, 7 Courses, and 10 Teams. In order to keep the season short, each team will not play every team during the regular season. There will be a random draw to determine team match ups. TDG will conclude at the Final Event with teams being matched up by the W/L/T records (1 v. 2, 3 v. 4, etc). The league will start in January with matches approximately every other weekend for 12 weeks. The Final event will be April 3rd at Shelton Springs.

EVENT FORMAT
Each event will match up two teams against each other for two rounds. The format for each round will be 4 matches of handicapped singles and one match of handicapped doubles. There will be no California doubles allowed. If a team is short players for the round matches, then the doubles match is fielded first then all other matches are played as singles. The team will forfeit one point per each match that they can’t field.
One team will be designated the “Home” team and one the “Away”. The first round, the home team will turn in their roster to the away team, the away team would then determine the matchups for that round. The second round, the away team turns in their roster for the home team to determine matchups. The winners of each match will earn one point for their team. Any match ending in a tie will award ½ point to each team. The team with the most points at the end of the day gets the win for the Event.
Teams will be matched up at the Final Event by their W/L/T record. If at the end of the season, 2 or more teams have the same Win/Loss/Tie record, the total Match Points will be the tiebreaker. If there is still a tie, whichever team won the match during the season determines the winner. If there is still a tie, all present members of the teams will throw a CTP, the closest shot wins.



COURSES
The TDG teams will each represent a "home" course. The courses to be used this year are; Fort Steilacoom, Riverside, White River, Sea-Tac, Shelton Springs, and a new West Sound course (TBA). Each team will host or co-host one event at their course. The “host team” will decide on the course layout, and be responsible for making sure the course is ready to play. The “Host” is responsible for any special rules regarding the course. PDGA rules will apply; there will be NO TWO METER RULE.


TEAMS and PLAYERS
Each team will have at least 6, but no more than 9 members on the roster. There are no division restrictions or guidelines for a team, although a mixed team of AM’s, Women, and Pro’s would be preferred. Only 6 members need to be present at each event. Players won’t be allowed to switch teams. Rosters must be submitted prior to the start of the first event. Players shall only be allowed play in one doubles match per event. In order to compete in the TDG Finals, a player must have at least two regular season TDG rated rounds.


COST & PAYOUT
Each team will “buy in” to the league at the beginning of the season. Cost will be $135 per team. This breaks down to $15 per player (9). The “buy in” will cover TDG payout and expenses. The end of season awards for teams and individual accomplishments will be based on the W/L/T record and points won throughout the season.


ACE POT
There will be a voluntary rolling Ace Pot throughout the series of the TDG events. Each participating player must buy in at $1.00 per each event. If no aces are hit, the pot will go to a CTP at the Finals. The Final CTP, if necessary, will be available for everyone that participated in the Ace Pot throughout the Team Disc Golf season. If the Final CTP is not Aced, then the three closest shots will divide the Ace Pot.
HANDICAPPING
We will be using the PDGA rating system to determine the player ratings. The rating system uses the course SSA, existing PDGA player ratings, and TDG player ratings to determine handicaps. Handicaps will be calculated before each event. There will be a preliminary round rating event prior to Week #1 to establish a TDG rating. The system used for determining the starting handicap will be as follows; the player’s average of PDGA rating and preliminary round ratings. Players without PDGA ratings will use their first two rounds of TDG divided by two. All Players must have a TDG rating prior to playing in an official match.


After each event, the new rated rounds will be added to all the previous rated rounds and divided by the number of total rounds. Any individual rated round that is 50 points below a player’s rating shall not be used in determining that player’s rating for the following event. This rule will be used to help prevent sandbagging. Doubles rounds will not be rated. Handicaps for the Doubles matches will be determined by using the highest player rating of each team. For Example, 915/960 vs. 935/940 = 960 vs. 940.


The course SSA will determine the handicaps as follows:

SSA Rating points per stroke
42-43 14
44-45 13
46-47 12
48-49 11
50-54 10
55-59 9
60-64 8
65-67 7
68-71 6

SCHEDULE
Teams Listed first are Home Teams:
Player’s meeting at 9:00am. Don’t be late.

Sunday Jan 2nd
Preliminary: Rating Establishing Event.
Course: Lakewood

Sunday Jan 9th
Week #1
Course: Fort Steilacoom
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away

Sunday Jan 23rd
Week #2
Course: NAD
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away


Sunday Feb 13th
Week #3
Course: White River
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away




Sunday Feb 20th
Week #4
Course: Sea Tac
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away




Sunday Mar 6th
Week #5
Course: Fairground/ New west sound course
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away


Sunday April 3rd
Week #6
Course: Riverside
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away


Sunday April 10th
Finals @ Shelton Springs
(1 vs 2 , 3 vs 4 , 5 vs 6, 7 vs 8 , 9 vs 10)

[TREX]

Nice work Gilby and Morgan. I would have hated to work out the logistics of this. Gj guys. and THX!

[TYVEK]

cool.


do we have a full list of teams and their rosters that you can post up here?

[olydiscgolf]

cool.


do we have a full list of teams and their rosters that you can post up here?

I'm waiting confirmation from one captain, but the 9 for sure are:

Oly
Seatac
White River
Riverside
Steilly/ Kilmer
Steilly/ Turis
West Sound/ Sam
West Sound/ Carl
Shelton

I'm hoping to get confirmation from our 10Th captain today. I will be posting the schedule soon as well. The dates are posted.

[olydiscgolf]

I'm waiting confirmation from one captain, but the 9 for sure are:

Oly
Seatac
White River
Riverside
Steilly/ Kilmer
Steilly/ Turis
West Sound/ Sam
West Sound/ Carl
Shelton

I'm hoping to get confirmation from our 10Th captain today. I will be posting the schedule soon as well. The dates are posted.



Jesse Ingram signed on today as our 10th captain for TDG. I will be working on finalizing the schedule, everything is coming together for WA TDG 2011!

[olydiscgolf]

Captains: Send your rosters in when you get them finalized.

[thebakedone]

Anybody got an extra spot for a mediocre player? I don't really have a "home" course so I'll represent whomever will have me. Missed it last year and once again have procrastinated this time around.

[BAKE]

Nice job Gilby, Cannot wait !!!

[LJ Jubner]

Anybody got an extra spot for a mediocre player? I don't really have a "home" course so I'll represent whomever will have me. Missed it last year and once again have procrastinated this time around.

I am pretty sure Jessie will take you. he needs a "good veteran" kicker

[Discgolfingkilmers]

pierce county disc golf has a contract with the county to pay 1200$ a year to use steily and riverside. we have a rule in place that says anyone that plays an event at either course must pay 3$ per head. EVERYONE MUST PAY, that is the only way to keep it fair for the A-tier to the deaf disc golfers that only have 20 players. The club can not waive this. need to know if the players will pay 3$ to play at our courses for team golf, or if we should find other courses to play

[LakeStevensBA]

I would be willing to pay $4 to play Steily and $2 to play Riverside, so I guess I could average the two. So yeah....I would be in for playing these two still.

[REDFIVE]

May as well make the buy in each week $3 per player at all courses and raise some funds for everybody. I am willing .

[mazza]

May as well make the buy in each week $3 per player at all courses and raise some funds for everybody. I am willing .

that may not be bad.......maybe take 1/2 of the total at the end and put to a ctp????


i'm down

[TYVEK]

May as well make the buy in each week $3 per player at all courses and raise some funds for everybody. I am willing .

we are already paying just to PLAY in this team disc golf league!!. we really dont need any other expenses on top of that in my opinion. plus if your team is planning on wearing jerseys then you have to worry about shelling out cash for a jersey as well.

i think that this should be the cheaper the better for a winter time team disc golf league that is about HAVING FUN, not trying to make it seem like another washington state series. i can understand the fee for stilly and riverside because if we want to keep those courses then the club has to raise funds somehow to continue to pay the lease each year, but for all other parks that dont have a big lease agreement like stilly then we shouldnt have to pay to play at the course.

[sillybizz]

we are already paying just to PLAY in this team disc golf league!!. we really dont need any other expenses on top of that in my opinion. plus if your team is planning on wearing jerseys then you have to worry about shelling out cash for a jersey as well.

i think that this should be the cheaper the better for a winter time team disc golf league that is about HAVING FUN, not trying to make it seem like another washington state series.

I agree completely. This is going down the wrong track IMO.

[Sausage Fingers]

pierce county disc golf has a contract with the county to pay 1200$ a year to use steily and riverside. we have a rule in place that says anyone that plays an event at either course must pay 3$ per head. EVERYONE MUST PAY, that is the only way to keep it fair for the A-tier to the deaf disc golfers that only have 20 players. The club can not waive this. need to know if the players will pay 3$ to play at our courses for team golf, or if we should find other courses to play

This begs the question: do you charge this fee for the summer weeklies that use these courses all season long?

As most weeklies are like a $5 buy in, do they actually play for $1 payout with $1 going to the series final and $3 going to the club for park fees? :chinscratch:

Just asking since the total cost for WTDG per player is like $2/event. And they will only be at your courses once for each of the two courses during the winter when the course gets the least amount of use. I have no problem with paying course fees, but are they closing the course to other users during these events like they would during a PDGA tourney?

When OTDG plays at say Horning's for example, all I do is mention that everybody needs to pay the $3 day use fee in the morning meeting. But if the course wants the money then they should have someone there to collect the money, since I am surely not going to add that to the list of crap I have to do to get the event off and running smoothly. Likewise when we play at a State Park there is a fee to park your car in the park. And all I do is mention that in the morning meeting and it is up to the park staff to police the compliance of the golfers.

:pirate:

[mazza]

yes the weekly doubles do pay for use of the course....and do tournaments....and tdg

[olydiscgolf]

This year, I donated at least $50 extra to 12+ events that I played. That $50 barely made a dent for each individual event, but if I would have just wrote one check for $600.....


At the end of the season, WA TDG will be making a donation to a new local course. My hope is to be able to donate over $800. The amount of this donation is directly affected by "course fee's".

With 7 courses being played, we could divide up the $800 and each course would get player fee's in the amount of about $120.

$120 doesn't go very far for an established course, but $800 for a new course goes along way!

[REDFIVE]

How is raising money for the courses we use going in the wrong direction? Is $3 every two weeks that much to ask? Why not give back a little? Donating a few bucks to the course isn't going to make team disc golf like another series. It is only going to help give back to courses during a time when they aren't able to raise as much. I like playing disc golf and I know that the clubs that are in charge of our courses need our help to keep them going. I am greatful to the clubs and to the people that donate their time and effort so I can enjoy myself during a round of golf. Donate $3 and know you are doing something good for the sport in our area. What is wrong about that?

[TYVEK]

there is nothing wrong with the thought of giving $3 per course. my hesitation is that i dont want this to end up snowballing or evolving into something else. when i agreed to play in team disc golf it was 15 dollars fee per player, and $1 ace pot per event. i dont want to hear later down the road "now we each have to pay for this new fee or that new fee" or something like that.

the only time i actually am ok with paying money to play disc golf is at an organized tournament (prefereably pdga), or if i was playing at a pay to play course. there are other times i pay to play (weekly doubles) but i would always rather play for free.


the bottom line for me is that i expected to pay 15 dollars entry and 1 dollar each tournament for ace pot. nothing more than that. (exept stilly and riverside i guess)

[TREX]

Very interesting Idea. Me likey

[Yardbird]

I vote for raising the team fees to $180 ($20 per player) and creating a course improvement fund of $1200, thus leaving $600 for TDG expenses and payout.

The local Clubs that represent the courses used in this year's TDG will then create a proposal to allocate funds for thier courses. The proposal will include actual projects with involved costs and a brief explanation of why it is needed. For example, "Purchase a new basket w/collar and concrete for $400, Collars and concrete for 6 new pin locations for $150, or Concrete and forms for three new tee boxes for $300". Explanation example, "Purchase of basket is needed to replace a tone pole or Concrete is needed to upgrade the dirt tee pad on hole 4,7, and 12."

Clubs will submit thier proposal to the TD of WTDG (Chris Gilberts). Chris will then create three or four alternatives (multiple courses in each alternative) to allocate the course improvement fund based on the submitted proposals and then the TDG team captians will vote for one. The courses in the winning alternative will be the lucky recipient of the fundraising efforts of Washington Team Disc Golf. The funds will be awarded to the winning clubs at the TDG Finals.

Now that would be some serious fundraising efforts for the off season.

Later,
Sam

[TYVEK]

yeah you can go ahead and call me the grinch, but i vote for changeing the fee BACK to 10.00 per person like it was last year. we dont need any more money increases unless the money is going to be payed out back to the players.

[REDFIVE]

yeah you can go ahead and call me the grinch, but i vote for changeing the fee BACK to 10.00 per person like it was last year. we dont need any more money increases unless the money is going to be payed out back to the players.

If the money is going to the courses how is that not being paid back to all players?

[TYVEK]

If the money is going to the courses how is that not being paid back to all players?

i was meaning payed back to the players as in more cash to be put up for winning teams at team disc golf. i would rather see cold hard cash. especially if i am investing some of my own money (as in entrance fees ect.)

i believe that each course or club that takes care of a course should be responsible for raising money for their current courses or for future courses, i really dont think that team disc golf should be used for raising money for any courses, just the players in way of cash or prizes.

[sillybizz]

$10 for sure Orion. If someone wants to donate an extra $10 or $3 per course played then they are free to do that.

[Skookum]

I think the vision of using this series to raise money for the courses we all know and love is far and away the best use of my 15 dollars I can think of. Team Disc Golf IS FOR FUN, i mean it's handicapped golf for crying out loud, definitely not to be taken seriously. It's about getting out and raging against the oppressive winter(until it gets dark and we retreat for hot cocoa) and not payouts script or otherwise.

I hope no one see this as anything more than keeping your skills honed and possible picking up some bragging rights(at least till somebody points out the handicap thing again). If someone told me for a 20 dollar donation to the greater good of disc golf I could go out and compete in 7-8 organized events this winter with my buddies against my friends at their courses and somebody would be keeping track of it all for me I just had to show up and have fun....

I would say "Where do I sign up?" What would you say?

Maybe you would have questions about how your donated money is spent, fair enough, that is a conversation worth having. Sam had some ideas on that worth pursuing and I'm sure other folks have ideas as well. But if we all were to look at this from a perspective more along these lines it makes answering some of question brought up so far a lot easier.

It's possible I'm being a little too idealistic(wouldn't be the first time) but really where else could you get so much back for donating so little to your favorite cause?

I am speaking as a player here any numbers or intentions mentioned above are for the purpose of conversation and contemplation.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Im not entirely sure the timing is right for these issues. Solely my opinion, but it is sounding more like when the teachers of a school district are going on strike a few weeks before school is ready to start. Isnt it a little inappropriate to bring up any other fee issues at a time where the team captains are designated, the schedule and rules have been posted, the teams have pretty much been filled, the listed fees to play this year has been posted and currently being collected and all there is to do is wait to begin another great year of team disc golf at the beginning of the year.

Kinda think things should be grandfathered in by now and any other issues should be brought up next year before the rules and/or any other information is formely posted. It is $15 per person as i understand it and if psdgc does in deed require a fee to pay an event at fort steilacoom and riverside without and chance of being waved then so be it.

All suggestions i have read are great and i fully respect every one and i hope to have the same courtesy paid to me with respect to this post. Maybe....... just maybe we can save all this energy for next year. As i see it.........your going to need every bit of it.

go team steilly!!!

[olydiscgolf]

Im not entirely sure the timing is right for these issues. Solely my opinion, but it is sounding more like when the teachers of a school district are going on strike a few weeks before school is ready to start. Isnt it a little inappropriate to bring up any other fee issues at a time where the team captains are designated, the schedule and rules have been posted, the teams have pretty much been filled, the listed fees to play this year has been posted and currently being collected and all there is to do is wait to begin another great year of team disc golf at the beginning of the year.

Kinda think things should be grandfathered in by now and any other issues should be brought up next year before the rules and/or any other information is formely posted. It is $15 per person as i understand it and if psdgc does in deed require a fee to pay an event at fort steilacoom and riverside without and chance of being waved then so be it.

All suggestions i have read are great and i fully respect every one and i hope to have the same courtesy paid to me with respect to this post. Maybe....... just maybe we can save all this energy for next year. As i see it.........your going to need every bit of it.

go team steilly!!!

Dan, you are quite right. The teams are established, the rules are in place and the $15 per player buy in is set (regardles of what happens).

The only thing in question here is course fee's. And this question was just brought up Thursday morning.

So we will deal with it, and a solution will be found that will suit everybody.

[REDFIVE]

Sorry for the can of worms chris.

[olydiscgolf]

Sorry for the can of worms chris.

No worries! If this is the most that we have to deal with for WA TDG....I say we got off easy!

I'm really excited for this year! We will keep the entry fee low (less than $2 per event for rated rounds). We will have a killer meal for all of the players at the finals. We will have a lot of fun. And we will donate a bunch of cash to a new amazing course!


Chris

[BAKE]

Is Jan 2nd at lakwood a mandatory for the start, or is Jan 9th the start ??

[olydiscgolf]

Is Jan 2nd at lakwood a mandatory for the start, or is Jan 9th the start ??

The Jan 2nd, Lakewood round is not mandatory for players that have a PDGA rating or a rating from WA TDG last season. That being said, I need to have at least 7 rated players playing the round to qualify the rating system.

C'mon out, the more the merrier!

Chris Gilberts

[mazza]

The Jan 2nd, Lakewood round is not mandatory for players that have a PDGA rating or a rating from WA TDG last season. That being said, I need to have at least 7 rated players playing the round to qualify the rating system.

C'mon out, the more the merrier!

Chris Gilberts

u can count me in

[douglaselvis]

Just talk ed to the captain of Team Fairgrounds and he is trying to get shirts.

What colors are other teams wearing?

NAD ~ Green

[TREX]

I love hot cocoa,, uhuh

[BAKE]

MCDG is Red and White I beleve,

can i ask a stupid question = is lakewood stilly or is this a diffrent course in lakwood ???

[mazza]

its up north up past sea tac air port

[TREX]

Lakewood is not stilly, it's up north in the setac area. Bitchin course =]. MCDG colors are black on red.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Not too sure, but i think the fort steilacoom team 1 is some sort of light green........have to ask mark though.

[douglaselvis]

NAD ~ Dark Green
MCDG ~ Black on Red
Steilly #1 ~ Light Green





others........

[Discgolfingkilmers]

both steily teams will be seahawk green and yellow sweatshirts and riverside is brown sweatshirts and yellow shirts

[douglaselvis]

NAD ~ Dark Green
MCDG ~ Black on Red
Steilly #1 & 2 ~ Green & Yellow SeaHawk Jerseys
Riverside ~ Brown & Yellow

[BigBubbBelly]

The Way Outs are gonna rock Red Gold n Green color schemes.

[SPIDER-DAN]

OH.......YOU ALL WILL LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF CHRISTMAS PRESENTS........ HO HO HO. :laughing:

[Jonesy]

how's re-inventing the wheel going up there? if your team golf experiments ever start to become compatable with oregon team golf it would be freakin sweet to do Pac NW Team championships. the southern washington team, chain damage, is doing pretty well this year.

[Jonesy]

found the web page. pretty similar now. nice web page.

[olydiscgolf]

found the web page. pretty similar now. nice web page.

We didn't "reinvent" the wheel, we just made it a smoother ride! JK of course. Jordan helped us a lot, and continues to do so.


The web page you see is only the beginning. We have an amazing computer guy that is working on the new improved, fully interactive, bigger, badder, faster, stronger web site!

[Sausage Fingers]

We didn't "reinvent" the wheel, we just made it a smoother ride! JK of course. Jordan helped us a lot, and continues to do so.


The web page you see is only the beginning. We have an amazing computer guy that is working on the new improved, fully interactive, bigger, badder, faster, stronger web site!

I do not claim to hold any kind of copyright to the Team Disc Golf method, in Oregon or elsewhere. I am just glad that the concept has caught on up north. They do things a little differently, but as long as they are having a good time and getting players out to the course over the winter, my job is done.:cheers:

I am pretty jealous about their sweet webpage approach though, I just don't have the skills or the time to do that for us.:bricks:

Here's to winter golf leagues everywhere! More disc golf is never a bad thing...:chug:

:pirate:

[LakeStevensBA]

Here's to winter golf leagues everywhere! More disc golf is never a bad thing...:chug:

:pirate:

Damn Jordan, that's a pretty big quafer you are chugging down. What the hell, I will tip one with you virtually in about 2 hours!
:chug:

[SPIDER-DAN]

Hope it was ok but i took the liberty of having the wa state team disc golf schedule put on the northwest calender. It says free to participate.......not sure why that was added. I may have to send another email and find out.............just wanted to let anyone know what i did so i can keep better track of these things.

[dan mc]

where is this mystery site

[sillybizz]

where is this mystery site

If we told you it would end the mystery.

[dan mc]

If we told you it would end the mystery.

very true sir,but it' sounds lke it's chuck full of discy goodness and i'd like to be one of the hip happening folks who get to immerse themselves in the excitement said site wll provide

[TYVEK]

i am getting ready!!! i have been down here in texas for almost a week and have been playing in the nice sunshine! it is good to rehone my rusty skills without the cold and rain that is up in washington.

i am really looking forward to playing at lakewood on the 2nd.


what is the website for WA team disc golf?????

[sillybizz]

Is Google broken today or something?

http://sites.google.com/site/wateamdisc/home-1/files

[olydiscgolf]

WA TDG 2011 starts tomorrow!

[LakeStevensBA]

WA TDG 2011 starts tomorrow!

Looking forward to it! Team Without A Home Course (Wayouts) will be there with bells on our disc golf stilletos.

Is tomorrow one round or two?

[olydiscgolf]

Looking forward to it! Team Without A Home Course (Wayouts) will be there with bells on our disc golf stilletos.

Is tomorrow one round or two?

We will play two rounds tomorrow.

[TYVEK]

i know this is late, but why two rounds tommorrow? isnt one round enough for establishing player ratings??

[Ode]

while im sure one is fine to establish a baseline, with any rating the more rounds it includes the more accurate it will be

[BAKE]

It was nice to see some familiar faces yesterday at lakwood !! ( sorry Terry you dident feel so good )

Going to be a funn year see ya at Stilly

[Yardbird]

Only a few more days until the official start of Team Disc Golf.

What course layouts are we going to use at Fort Stielly?

I heard rumor of the noodle arm (par 72) course in the morning and the Amatuer course in the afternoon. Can anyone confirm this to be true?

[Skookum]

WWW.WATDG.COM (http://WWW.WATDG.COM) is live. Its not finished but it does have some useful info so I'd bookmark it.

[olydiscgolf]

WWW.WATDG.COM (http://WWW.WATDG.COM) is live. Its not finished but it does have some useful info so I'd bookmark it.

Nice work Morgan! Thanks for all of your help.

Chris

[mazza]

very nice work

[TREX]

Very nice..... Cept spelling my name wrong. Next year your TDG shirt is gonna say Rockroth. J/K GJ

[Skookum]

Very nice..... Cept spelling my name wrong. Next year your TDG shirt is gonna say Rockroth. J/K GJ

Lol. Sorry I think you were the victim of a cut and paste storm.

[Ode]

we will be playing NW and SE on sunday with a few modified holes on each. should be fun and hopefully the forecast holds up. bring your boots and handwarmers, should be could and sloppy out there.

[Discgolfingkilmers]

when will we know who we play ? are we going to draw on sunday for spots or is this already done?

[olydiscgolf]

when will we know who we play ? are we going to draw on sunday for spots or is this already done?

Check your email. Schedules have been emailed to the captains.

I tried to upload it here, but it didn't work. Maybe one of you computer folks out there can try to do it for me.

[Skookum]

Chris is it the same as what you sent me recently? If so I can put it up on the site. I'll look at it tonight.

[olydiscgolf]

Chris is it the same as what you sent me recently? If so I can put it up on the site. I'll look at it tonight.

Yes

[Sumo]

WWW.WATDG.COM (http://WWW.WATDG.COM) is live. Its not finished but it does have some useful info so I'd bookmark it.

This is very cool. Only thing missing is me from Ft Steily T. You guys still have me down right?

[mazza]

This is very cool. Only thing missing is me from Ft Steily T. You guys still have me down right?

not sure if i wanna be the one to tell u this...


















but yes u still got a spot on the team

[olydiscgolf]

This is very cool. Only thing missing is me from Ft Steily T. You guys still have me down right?

Yes, you are on team steilly. We had some issues with scorecards without last names or team names on them.

Everything will be updated after the first event when rosters are finalized.

[Sausage Fingers]

We had some issues with scorecards without last names or team names on them.

Glad to see I am not the only one...

:pirate:

[Sumo]

Yes, you are on team steilly. We had some issues with scorecards without last names or team names on them.

Everything will be updated after the first event when rosters are finalized.

Ok. Yeah I know my real name and then my nickname does slightly confuse people. I dunno if it will help But i know I shot 7 over each round at Lakewood Park. Oh and I will make sure score card wise I will have my legitimate name on it instead of Sumo

[olydiscgolf]

Ok. Yeah I know my real name and then my nickname does slightly confuse people. I dunno if it will help But i know I shot 7 over each round at Lakewood Park. Oh and I will make sure score card wise I will have my legitimate name on it instead of Sumo

Thanks Chris. I think we have most of the info squared away. We will be finalizing rosters and making sure everything is accurate for our first event.

Chris

[Skookum]

Ok, well I got the first round up. If you are someone who visits the site please report issue and error to me and I will fix them (in my sweet time)

1/2 Results (https://sites.google.com/a/watdg.com/wa-team-disc-golf/2011-results/t1-steilly)

Let me know if that format is to hard to follow. (so I will know to speak slower to you next time we speak IRL, lol)

[Kenny B]

Ok, well I got the first round up. If you are someone who visits the site please report issue and error to me and I will fix them (in my sweet time)

1/2 Results (https://sites.google.com/a/watdg.com/wa-team-disc-golf/2011-results/t1-steilly)

Let me know if that format is to hard to follow. (so I will know to speak slower to you next time we speak IRL, lol)

Will you add files to the website so that players can see the round ratings for both rounds of each event?

[Skookum]

Will you add files to the website so that players can see the round ratings for both rounds of each event?

I definitely plan to put those up. Just have to decide how. The spreadsheet that has all the data is kind of a monster, not the most user friendly. so I am kicking around the idea of adding it the results page, more work but much easier to digest. I will finish the results page then tackle the handicapping and round rating issue.

[BigBubbBelly]

Awesome guys. Thanks for all of your hard work. Site looks good. I like the way it is laid out. Cant wait till I see you all out at NAD for the next event. Till then, Go HAWKS!

[Yardbird]

TDG Reminder: Week 2 of TDG is at NAD Park, this Sunday, January 23rd.

The layouts to be used will be:
1) Red tees to the 'B' pins.
2) Blue tees to the 'A' pins.

Normal Mandos will be in play.
Only O.B. will be the fence line and road surrounding the park.

8:30am Captain's meeting
9:00am Players meeting

[olydiscgolf]

TDG Reminder: Week 2 of TDG is at NAD Park, this Sunday, January 23rd.

The layouts to be used will be:
1) Red tees to the 'B' pins.
2) Blue tees to the 'A' pins.

Normal Mandos will be in play.
Only O.B. will be the fence line and road surrounding the park.

8:30am Captain's meeting
9:00am Players meeting

Thanks Sammy! Do you have accurate SSA's for these layouts?

[Yardbird]

The scoring for each layout should be about the same. One layout has tougher tee locations and the other layout has tougher pin locations.

The SSA for each course should be in the 49-50 range.

[olydiscgolf]

The scoring for each layout should be about the same. One layout has tougher tee locations and the other layout has tougher pin locations.

The SSA for each course should be in the 49-50 range.

Sounds good Sam. We will plan on a SSA of 50 for both courses. This will make the rating points/ stroke = 10.

[olydiscgolf]

SCHEDULE
Teams Listed first are Home Teams:
Player’s meeting at 9:00am. Don’t be late.

Sunday Jan 2nd
Preliminary: Rating Establishing Event.
Course: Lakewood

Sunday Jan 9th
Week #1
Course: Fort Steilacoom
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away

Sunday Jan 23rd
Week #2
Course: NAD
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away


Sunday Feb 13th
Week #3
Course: White River
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away




Sunday Feb 20th
Week #4
Course: Sea Tac
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away




Sunday Mar 6th
Week #5
Course: Fairground/ New west sound course
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away


Sunday April 3rd
Week #6
Course: Riverside
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away


Sunday April 10th
Finals @ Shelton Springs
(1 vs 2 , 3 vs 4 , 5 vs 6, 7 vs 8 , 9 vs 10)

[olydiscgolf]

SCHEDULE
Teams Listed first are Home Teams:
Player’s meeting at 9:00am. Don’t be late.

Sunday Jan 2nd
Preliminary: Rating Establishing Event.
Course: Lakewood

Sunday Jan 9th
Week #1
Course: Fort Steilacoom
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away

Sunday Jan 23rd
Week #2
Course: NAD
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away


Sunday Feb 13th
Week #3
Course: White River
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away




Sunday Feb 20th
Week #4
Course: Sea Tac
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away




Sunday Mar 6th
Week #5
Course: Fairground/ New west sound course
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away


Sunday April 3rd
Week #6
Course: Riverside
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away
Home vs Away


Sunday April 10th
Finals @ Shelton Springs
(1 vs 2 , 3 vs 4 , 5 vs 6, 7 vs 8 , 9 vs 10)

We have changed the WA TDG schedule to accomodate for the CSI split weekends at SeaTac. We will essentially cut the Mar. 20th date and add in April 10th.

[LJ Jubner]

Thanks to all of the TDG participants, Your cooperation is greatly appreciated.

[olydiscgolf]

Scores are posted. Website updated.

www.watdg.com

[Jeff Hemmerling]

Scores are posted. Website updated.

www.watdg.com (http://www.watdg.com)Nice team disc golf website Chris!
We hillbillies here in Oregon haven't evolved to that point yet. ;)

[TreeLove]

What? We DO have a domain name, it's just that the Yahoo group it points to is a bit tough to operate... Yes, maybe next year we will have a nice tight web site.... However, I am still proud of having grabbed: www.teamdiscgolf.com baby!

[olydiscgolf]

Nice team disc golf website Chris!
We hillbillies here in Oregon haven't evolved to that point yet. ;)

Thanks Hemmerling! I really don't get to take much credit for it though. Eric Lund started it last season and Morgan Rothrock is puting on the finishing touches. I just stand around and look pretty!

[LJ Jubner]

... I just stand around and look pretty!

How EXACTLY does that work? I get the standing around part but...

[mazza]

how exactly does that work? I get the standing around part but...

hahahahahahahahaha

[olydiscgolf]

How EXACTLY does that work? I get the standing around part but...

lets just say it takes a lot of time.....and Im not very good at it!

[LJ Jubner]

lets just say it takes a lot of time.....and Im not very good at it!

Two thoughts come to mind

You are getting better at it
and
the line has to actually go up to be called a curve

[olydiscgolf]

WA TDG made its first contribution to Mason County Disc Golf. We donated $500 to the new Shelton Springs DGC, in Shelton, WA! The remaining balance of WA TDG funds will be given at the end of the season. I'm hoping for at least $200 more!

Thanks to all of the TDG players, and those who kicked in a little extra to make this happen.

[Yardbird]

Schedule of the remaining events for 2011 TDG:

Week #3 - Sunday Feb 13th @ White River

Week #4 - Sunday Feb 20th @ Sea Tac

Week #5 - Sunday Mar 6th @ Fairgrounds

Week #6 - Sunday April 3rd @ Riverside

Finals - Sunday April 10th @ Shelton Springs

[psychodwarf]

This is the new face of WA Team Golf. Anybody interested in WA TEAM GOLF apply here. Anybody interested in bad mouthing, crap talking, BS! Go to the old thread, thats all it turned into!

Chris Gilberts

hey chris ..
does this mean you are NOT coming over the mountains to play? or should it say WESTERN WA TEAM GOLF ? NOT BAD MOUTHING JUST WONDERING .because i am working on some good bbqing at DRO and LCO and I thought you would come over and feast again?

[olydiscgolf]

hey chris ..
does this mean you are NOT coming over the mountains to play? or should it say WESTERN WA TEAM GOLF ? NOT BAD MOUTHING JUST WONDERING .because i am working on some good bbqing at DRO and LCO and I thought you would come over and feast again?

I'm still undecided if I'll make it East this year. Probably not, but If I do, it will be for the LCO. I ordered a new baby, he should be here the end of April sometime, he is going to determine my tourney schedule this year! I'll let you know Joe.

[psychodwarf]

I'm still undecided if I'll make it East this year. Probably not, but If I do, it will be for the LCO. I ordered a new baby, he should be here the end of April sometime, he is going to determine my tourney schedule this year! I'll let you know Joe.

chris you are supposed to order the baby in the summer so it came in the winter .. but thats ok .. i will hope to see ya then

[Wobbly Bob]

Chris, Psycodwarf and I are working together on East side Team Golf. Do you have any of the work sheets for keeping track of all the statistical data you have to work with? If not could you hook me up with whoever does have that info.

[olydiscgolf]

Chris, Psycodwarf and I are working together on East side Team Golf. Do you have any of the work sheets for keeping track of all the statistical data you have to work with? If not could you hook me up with whoever does have that info.

Yeah Bob. I'll get it to you.

One more Team Golf league! Good on ya!

[Yardbird]

Think of the Team Golf possiblilites:

Oregon TG
West Wa TG
East Wa TG

2012 Team Golf finals in April at a central location to all three leagues (Tri-cities ?). Four teams from each league. Two day event. May the best team win for bragging rights until the following year.

[Skookum]

Chris, Psycodwarf and I are working together on East side Team Golf. Do you have any of the work sheets for keeping track of all the statistical data you have to work with? If not could you hook me up with whoever does have that info.

Hey Bob what is your timeline for EWTDG? The spreadsheet we have is still undergoing some tweaking (thanks to the talented Mr. Huff). Are you guys trying to start something this year? If so we should talk soon, otherwise I'd wait till after our season we should have the thing perfected by then. If you want to see what it kind of looks like this is what we used last week (https://sites.google.com/a/watdg.com/wa-team-disc-golf/2011-results/t1r1?pli=1). We worked on it quite a bit though, so this does not reflect the finished product. We hope to have that done in a few days.

[Kenny B]

Think of the Team Golf possiblilites:

Oregon TG
West Wa TG
East Wa TG

2012 Team Golf finals in April at a central location to all three leagues (Tri-cities ?). Four teams from each league. Two day event. May the best team win for bragging rights until the following year.

:rockon:yeah:rockon:

[psychodwarf]

Hey Bob what is your timeline for EWTDG? The spreadsheet we have is still undergoing some tweaking (thanks to the talented Mr. Huff). Are you guys trying to start something this year? If so we should talk soon, otherwise I'd wait till after our season we should have the thing perfected by then. If you want to see what it kind of looks like this is what we used last week (https://sites.google.com/a/watdg.com/wa-team-disc-golf/2011-results/t1r1?pli=1). We worked on it quite a bit though, so this does not reflect the finished product. We hope to have that done in a few days.

we hope to have things up and running by march 1 but still trying to get info from you ppl over there on how YOU are running it over there .

[olydiscgolf]

White River this Sunday! Its been a couple of weeks, but we're back at it!

[Yardbird]

The Ace Pot for Wa Team Disc Golf is currently $350.

For all you slackers that haven't paid in yet, please bring $5 to the next TDG event and buy into the Ace Pot. The $5 buy-in gets you paid up for the entire 2011 WaTDG season and will be split equally by all aces hit during the official matches during WaTDG.

You must buy-in before you hit an Ace.:slapface:

If no one gets an Ace, then there will be a CTP throw off at the Finals after the second round and before the awards ceremony.

[Yardbird]

Bump.....

Schedule of the remaining events for 2011 TDG:


Week #4 - Sunday Feb 20th @ Sea Tac

Week #5 - Sunday Mar 6th @ Fairgrounds

Week #6 - Sunday April 3rd @ Riverside

Finals - Sunday April 10th @ Shelton Springs

[olydiscgolf]

Seatac Tomorrow! Bring on the sunshine and the cold!

Course history shows the SSA to be around 56, this means 9 rating points/ stroke.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Is tourney central at hole one or is it between hole #8 and #16? I will have usdgc roc for you chris to give away like we discussed ...... Sorry i missed white river.

[olydiscgolf]

Is tourney central at hole one or is it between hole #8 and #16? I will have usdgc roc for you chris to give away like we discussed ...... Sorry i missed white river.

That sounds great Dan! Tourney central will be between 8 and 16.

[Yardbird]

Bump.....

Schedule of the remaining events for 2011 TDG:


Week #5 - Sunday Mar 6th @ Fairgrounds


Week #6 - Sunday April 3rd @ Riverside


Finals - Sunday April 10th @ Shelton Springs

[Skookum]

Standings have been updated. http://www.watdg.com/2011-standings

[olydiscgolf]

Standings have been updated. http://www.watdg.com/2011-standings

Thanks Sam and Morgan!

[olydiscgolf]

WA TDG at Kitsap County Fairgrounds tomorrow. SSA for the course is around 49.66. There will be 11 rating points per stroke.

[Yardbird]

Bump.....

Schedule for the last two events of 2011 TDG:



Week #6 - Sunday April 3rd @ Riverside


Finals - Sunday April 10th @ Shelton Springs :cheers:

[Yardbird]

How are the course conditions for Riverside this weekend? Are all eighteen baskets in the ground for the new layout? Looking forward to playing the new and improved layout.

Any idea what the SSA is going to be?

[REDFIVE]

The course is looking awesome. All baskets are in. With the rain there will be a few wet spots but that goes without saying with most courses.

1000 rated round could be about -4 or -5.

[mazza]

The course is looking awesome. All baskets are in. With the rain there will be a few wet spots but that goes without saying with most courses.

1000 rated round could be about -4 or -5.

so what will happen if the river floods the course....we play in wet suits

[REDFIVE]

Canoes.

[Skookum]

lol I have seen holes finished from canoes at Loonacy on Lake. I think I've even seen olydiscgolf himself chucking disc from a canoes or least diving for them from a canoe.

[olydiscgolf]

lol I have seen holes finished from canoes at Loonacy on Lake. I think I've even seen olydiscgolf himself chucking disc from a canoes or least diving for them from a canoe.

I did spend some time in a canoe during Loonacy At the Lake! Not only did I get my plastic back, I'm pretty sure I got at least one or two for you Skookum! What a great time!


The scorecards I have from Riverside calculate the SSA to be about 49+/-. Depending on the conditions Sunday...we will play as 49 or 50.
49 = 11 RP/stroke.
50 = 10 RP/stroke.

[REDFIVE]

The scorecards I have from Riverside calculate the SSA to be about 49+/-. Depending on the conditions Sunday...we will play as 49 or 50.
49 = 11 RP/stroke.
50 = 10 RP/stroke.

Pretty good guess, I guess.

[TYVEK]

hey OLYdiscgolf, is your profile picture Tate with membership??? if it is that is really cool!


back to the topic, it has been along time since i have played riverside, what is the easiest/fastest way to get there from I-5? thanks. see you guys there.

[Lund]

hey OLYdiscgolf, is your profile picture Tate with membership??? if it is that is really cool!

Its true! (http://www.pdga.com/player_search_results/gilberts/points)

Welcome, Tate. But don't let him put one of those x-putters in your hand!

And yes I miss WATDG.

[olydiscgolf]

Its true! (http://www.pdga.com/player_search_results/gilberts/points)

Welcome, Tate. But don't let him put one of those x-putters in your hand!

And yes I miss WATDG.

Team Golf misses you too Lundy! And Tate is super stoked about his new membership.... he says "I'm a real disc golfer now"!

We are having a spectacular year! We already donated $500 to Shelton Springs (MCDG), and it looks like we could be donating another sum (hopefully enough for a new basket) to the winning teams' club. Add in a fully catered meal during the Championship's, and I'd say we have had a successful year!

[olydiscgolf]

Pretty good guess, I guess.

It's somewhat of a calculated guess....I have about 15 scorecards from "established" PDGA rated players. By established rated players, I mean at least 8 rated rounds, most of which are 15-30 rated rounds. Some of these players are Riverside "locals" some are first timers to the course.

I didn't add it in with my SSA calculations, but I do know of one local "Lobsterbush" that threw a -13!

[SPIDER-DAN]

When i played it for the first time a couple weeks ago with every hole being played as par 3 i shot a -2 and i am around a 970 rated player.........dont know how, but ill go with it. I shot around the same the second round........maybe 1-2 worse.

-13..........well........showoff! Great round!

[TYVEK]

so can anybody give me directions on the fastest/easiest route from I-5?

thanks.

[TYVEK]

really???! nobody can tell me the easiest way to get to riverside? hmmmmmm.

[REDFIVE]

I-5N to 167/river road. Continue north on river road to 410 east. Take the orting highway exit. Turn right at light. First left onto riverside drive. Follow for maybe a mile course will be on the right after the daffodil farms on the left. Or google map it. Good luck.

[REDFIVE]

-13..........well........showoff! Great round!

With a 5.

[TYVEK]

I-5N to 167/river road. Continue north on river road to 410 east. Take the orting highway exit. Turn right at light. First left onto riverside drive. Follow for maybe a mile course will be on the right after the daffodil farms on the left. Or google map it. Good luck.

thank you for the directions. see you there.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Wanted to say thanks to the party responsible for making the riverside disc golf course a very enjoyable place to play today for the week #6 washington team disc golf.

The course was in great shape even after the some of the weather we have been having and the new layout was awesome. You can definitely see how a 10-12 under could be scored there, but you would have to execute with exact precision.

Thanks again to chris, morgan and everyone else for keeping the team disc in washinton running strong.........cant wait til next weekend at shelton springs!!!

[olydiscgolf]

Wanted to say thanks to the party responsible for making the riverside disc golf course a very enjoyable place to play today for the week #6 washington team disc golf.

The course was in great shape even after the some of the weather we have been having and the new layout was awesome. You can definitely see how a 10-12 under could be scored there, but you would have to execute with exact precision.

Thanks again to chris, morgan and everyone else for keeping the team disc in washinton running strong.........cant wait til next weekend at shelton springs!!!

Dont forget Sammy!

[Yardbird]

Hey Chris,

You and Morgan are the real stars. I just help out a little with the admin stuff.

[SPIDER-DAN]

hey chris,

you and morgan are the real stars. I just help out a little with the admin stuff.

modesty.........im sure your so called "helping out a little" is much more and i for one say thanks.

[Skookum]

modesty.........im sure your so called "helping out a little" is much more and i for one say thanks.

He may be able to play down his contribution to Team Disc Golf but the spreadsheet he has created is one beautiful piece of work and might have way more impact on the entire DG community than all of TDG.

I would wager he has created the best (and easiest) handicapping system out side of the PDGA.

[Yardbird]

Thanks.

Sam

[TYVEK]

hi, this message is directed towards any of the guys playing for either the NAD or Fairgrounds teams.

i lost my Z reaper in the river at riverside, and i need another one. i was wondering if one of you guys go to dalaiwood very often and if you do if you could pick me up a Z reaper somewhere inbetween 170-175? i will pay you for it at this sundays event at the Shelton Springs course.

iam pretty sure that Scott still has some on his shelves.

thanks.
Orion

[Kenny B]

hi, this message is directed towards any of the guys playing for either the NAD or Fairgrounds teams.

i lost my Z reaper in the river at riverside, and i need another one. i was wondering if one of you guys go to dalaiwood very often and if you do if you could pick me up a Z reaper somewhere inbetween 170-175? i will pay you for it at this sundays event at the Shelton Springs course.

iam pretty sure that Scott still has some on his shelves.

thanks.
Orion

If the reaper is the disc that I think, they're out of production and Nathan has already bought all that Scott had. I'll check into it to be certain.

[olydiscgolf]

hi, this message is directed towards any of the guys playing for either the NAD or Fairgrounds teams.

i lost my Z reaper in the river at riverside, and i need another one. i was wondering if one of you guys go to dalaiwood very often and if you do if you could pick me up a Z reaper somewhere inbetween 170-175? i will pay you for it at this sundays event at the Shelton Springs course.

iam pretty sure that Scott still has some on his shelves.

thanks.
Orion

Kevin David is heading down to Disc Golf Depot today...call him. Or call me and I'll call him for you.

[Nathan]

Your right Kenny. They're OOP and Scott has been out of them for a while. The last place that I've seen any for sale besides the internet is Ray's van at Steily

[EnigmaSquad]

This is directed toward the MaCo crew.

I lost a nice black Discraft towel somewhere on holes 16-18 at Shelton Springs I would appreciate you keeping an eye out for it. It was given to me by a pro friend and therefore has some sentimental value.

Also I found an Orange Disc in the Fairway of 16. It says FISH on the bottom with a phone number but I forgot to call it while I was still in town.(having my own set of problems was distracting me) I will bring it back into town for the finals on Sunday and leave it with you guys...

[Skookum]

We will watch for the towel as for Fish he plays in TDG as and alternate and will be there Sunday. If not you just give it to any Team MaCo player.

[TYVEK]

thank you guys for your responses about the reaper disc.

yeah first they discontinued the Talon and then they discontinued the reaper. now they dont have a really close disc that compares to a Firebird. the predetor is similar but not as similar as those other two were.

Discraft is forcing me to go back to Innova for a firebird. bad bad bad Discraft.

[Kenny B]

Chris and Morgan,

Do we get to play Black tee pads both rounds on Sunday? What's the SSA going to be for the Black tees?

[TREX]

I believe they are doing one round of each .. Red and Black. Blacks 1st.

[EnigmaSquad]

Thanks again to Chris and Morgan for all your hard work. You truly made this year's Team Disc Golf a very enjoyable experience...

I know there were others who also worked hard behind the scenes and to you I say thank you as well.:bowing:

Already looking forward to next year!

Worst to First Baby!!:trophy::trophy::trophy:

[dan mc]

thank you guys for your responses about the reaper disc.

yeah first they discontinued the Talon and then they discontinued the reaper. now they dont have a really close disc that compares to a Firebird. the predetor is similar but not as similar as those other two were.

Discraft is forcing me to go back to Innova for a firebird. bad bad bad Discraft. chainbangers had 2 low 170 z talons when i was there last week

[olydiscgolf]

Another year of WA TDG comes to an end. Team NAD (Captain Sam Huff) from Bremerton, WA went undefeated through the season and took home the Championship. They will receive a plaque to display at their course, and a brand new basket with an engraved tag saying the basket was donated by the 2011 WA TDG Champions.

All said....We donated about $970 to three different courses/ clubs ( $500 Shelton Springs, $350 West Sound, $120 Pierce County Disc Golf Players Association.

I had a lot of fun this year! Thank you to all of the players, and again, special thanks to Sammy and Morgan!

Oh by the way, we have already started the 2012 calendar, it will be posted as soon as it is finalized. We will be adding two more teams next year.

[EnigmaSquad]

Another year of WA TDG comes to an end. Team NAD (Captain Sam Huff) from Bremerton, WA went undefeated through the season and took home the Championship. They will receive a plaque to display at their course, and a brand new basket with an engraved tag saying the basket was donated by the 2011 WA TDG Champions.

All said....We donated about $970 to three different courses/ clubs ( $500 Shelton Springs, $350 West Sound, $120 Pierce County Disc Golf Players Association.

I had a lot of fun this year! Thank you to all of the players, and again, special thanks to Sammy and Morgan!

Oh by the way, we have already started the 2012 calendar, it will be posted as soon as it is finalized. We will be adding two more teams next year.

Chris,
Just brainstorming here...
With 12 teams You might consider making 2 divisions of 6 and having some sort of playoffs for the top two from each division. This way each team will play every other team in it's division.
-The other Brian

[olydiscgolf]

Chris,
Just brainstorming here...
With 12 teams You might consider making 2 divisions of 6 and having some sort of playoffs for the top two from each division. This way each team will play every other team in it's division.
-The other Brian

2 divisions sounds great, we will get there eventually, but probably not next year.

[SPIDER-DAN]

ANOTHER GREAT YEAR OF TEAM DISC GOLF..........THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYONE WHO PUT IN ALOT OF HARD WORK THIS YEAR TO MAKE IT A FUN ONE.

CONGRATS TO TEAM NAD...........VERY STRONG AND A PLEASURE TO PLAY WITH AND AGAINST. I DID MY BEST AND GOT BEAT PLAIN AND SIMPLE... HOPE TO DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR (EXCEPT FOR THE GETTING BEAT PART). TOOK MY FIRST AND SECOND LOSS OF THE YEAR..........DAMN YOU TEX (:slapface:).

I REALLY LIKE THAT TWO DIVSION IDEA.........HMMMMMMMMM.

[EnigmaSquad]

I was honored to contribute to your second loss of the year Dan. BUT THAT IS NO REASON TO YELL! Just kidding. It really was a pleasure to travel with your card both rounds. Hope we can play again real soon.
You is good people.:)

[SPIDER-DAN]

THANKS BRIAN..........YOU PLAYED VERY WELL AND IT WAS NICE TO PLAY IN A COMPETITIVE SETTING YET HAVE SOME FUN CONVERSATION. AS MUCH AS I TRIED YOU AND SAM CAME WITH YOUR "A" GAME AND DID WHAT YOU HAD TO DO. TIL NEXT TIME BUDDY........CONGRATS...................:trophy:.

PS THE FORUM USUALLY LOWER CAPS MY POST AUTOMATICALLY, MY LAST POST MUST OF SLIPPED THROUGH.

[SPIDER-DAN]

guess that one did to...........yeah.........:yay:

[olydiscgolf]

A new year of WA TDG is upon us. Schedules and rules have been emailed out to all of the captains. First event of the season is 1-08-12 at Lakewood. We have made a few major changes this year, the first being the addition of 2 new teams to take us to 12 total. The next change goes right in line with the first, and that is the fact that all of the courses that we play will be shut down to casual golf during WA TDG events. Id like to thank all of the host clubs that have generously donated the use of their respective courses, because of this, we will make a very size-able donation to one lucky course this year.

I'm looking forward to another great season of WA TDG!


Chris Gilberts

[JR Stengele]

Is there going to be a north and south division this year? What are the two new teams?

[olydiscgolf]

Is there going to be a north and south division this year? What are the two new teams?

The two new teams represented will be Lake Fennwick captained by Ron Weimer and Lakewood captained by our own Jub Jub.

There will not be two divisions this year.

[Jeff Hemmerling]

Hi Chris,

Good luck with this year's edition of WA Team Golf. The Oregon group just completed the second weekend of matches with glorious weather (ha, that won't last!).

Suggestion: Start another forum thread for this year's edition. This thread already has 705 posts! ;)

[Mr. Anderson]

Title the thread something like "The Best Washington Team Disc Golf Season Ever" ... boom

[olydiscgolf]

Hi Chris,

Good luck with this year's edition of WA Team Golf. The Oregon group just completed the second weekend of matches with glorious weather (ha, that won't last!).

Suggestion: Start another forum thread for this year's edition. This thread already has 705 posts! ;)

Some of "our people" asked the mods for our own section a while back... I don't think they took us seriously. 20,000 views later I figured I would just keep it going!

Thanks Jeff, I hope the weather holds out for you!

[Discgolfingkilmers]

The two new teams represented will be Lake Fennwick captained by Ron Weimer and Lakewood captained by our own Jub Jub.

There will not be two divisions this year.

are we going to play at that mud hole of a course fennwick for the team golf? and did you get a captain for whiteriver yet?

[LakeStevensBA]

are we going to play at that mud hole of a course fennwick for the team golf? and did you get a captain for whiteriver yet?

White River captain - Andy Foster
Fennwick is a team but not hosting an event there.
Number of comments about Jub being captain of his beloved Lakewood - O
The team with no home course but a truck full of beverages... - Wayouts

[Kenny B]

Go NAD!

[LJ Jubner]

...Number of comments about Jub being captain of his beloved Lakewood - O The team with no home course but a truck full of beverages... - Wayouts

Don't you mean truck bed full o beverages?

Jubs scrubs
A Holley
P Land
TR Hundley
RJ Gunn
E Illg
? Poster boy for the scrubs
?
jub

[Tanya Spence]

Where does the information on Team Disc Golf come from? Am I just not in the know?

[olydiscgolf]

Where does the information on Team Disc Golf come from? Am I just not in the know?

The info comes from the Commissioner and gets sent directly to the captains.

We have a website, but it isn't yet updated for the 2012 season. Should be soon though.

http://www.watdg.com/

[BIGARMBRANDON]

Hey this is Brandon Parsons and I'm open for being drafted let me know if you have an opening in your roster

[JR Stengele]

Hey Chris,

Any time frame on a schedule and team rosters? From one family man to another, the sooner it is on the calendar the better. :wink2:

[TreeLove]

It already is on the calendar: www.nwdiscgolf.info ! :)

Here are the results for a search I performed: results (http://www.brownbearsw.com/freecal/TreeLove?TextFilter=wtdg%202011-12;FilterIn=Both;IgnoreCase=1;Op=SearchPerform;ToD ate=2012-12-31;FromDate=2011-01-01)

You can perform your own searches, too!

[JR Stengele]

THANK YOU. Will get better about that search feature. :biggrin2: Did anyone notice that the final wa tdg event is on Easter Sunday?

[Nathan]

Ahhh man. Thats an automatic miss for me. Dangit, I love Shelton Springs.

[olydiscgolf]

THANK YOU. Will get better about that search feature. :biggrin2: Did anyone notice that the final wa tdg event is on Easter Sunday?

I did not notice that when preparing the schedule. I checked with my church (The PDGA), they didn't have anything planned, I guess I should have checked with the christians. We will have to see if we can possibly arrange something, maybe they can reschedule easter. Or maybe we can change our date....

[Yardbird]

Nathan,

You can still play in the afternoon. Morning service and afternoon golf at Shelton Springs. Does it get any better?

Actually, the dates were hard to set. Based on the previous two years of scheduling conflicts and a total of 8 TDG Events this season, the decision was made to set TDG dates every other weekend with the only consideration being the Superbowl. April tends to be a busy month for other DG events and the so called "start" of the tourney season. The TDG staff didn't want to have back to back weekends of events (one exception, 1/22 & 1/29). Possible burnout from players and to allow other events to pick potential dates. I'm sure March will see a few PDGA events on the open weekends.

Yes, there will be conflicts, but TDG has become too large of an event that has to be planned and dates set in advance. No more mid season date changes. The players will have to decide what events to attend.

Go Team NAD

[JR Stengele]

Not very religious, but do spend Easter with my family. It is unfortunate that the finale is that day but it is what it is. I know you all have a lot to deal with when planning and appreciate all that you, the captains, have done to get the third season on its way. If you do happen to have it on the 15th however, I wouldn't mind. :)

[LakeStevensBA]

Yeah, a lot of us won't be able to get away on Easter Sunday. It's a pretty big day with the family for most people..especially if you have kids.

I'm hoping it gets moved too. I hate to miss out on my new favorite course and my new favorite pizza and micro beer place (Grove Street Tavern rocks! Oyster and clam pizza and a pitcher of IPA for $20).

[WestsoundBT]

Another of Team NAD that would be out for the finale.

gosh, could you imagine a final outcome swung on forfeits?

[JR Stengele]

Do I hear the 15th for the finale?

[Toby Puttzinski]

Easter Sunday wouldn't be a good date for me either, and I'd be super disappointed to miss the finals at the Springs.

[papatart]

I don't usually post on something that I am not involved in but this one intrigues me. While I am not a person that attends services, I am a person that RESPECTS those who do. To say that you worried about scheduling on Superbowl Sunday and not worry about scheduling on Easter Sunday is fairly amazing to me.

Sam, you tell Nathan that he can attend church in the morning and play in the afternoon? The silly game that you are worried about won't even start until well after your rounds had finished. I still am trying to figure out whether your post, or Gilberts' post about not checking with the Christians is more insensitive.

I know that I am not involved with your TDG, nor am I a person that attends church. This does, however, make me the perfect casual observer with no ties to either side. I will say that as a TD I have always tried to be considerate of all special days and I would consider this (Easter) a biggie. I find it totally offensive that Home Depot has decided to be open on this day now and keeps people away from their families. I will personally try to take anyone's schedule that needs that time off.

But hey, I guess the only way that we can learn whether this is important to many people is to schedule something on that day. The good news is that amazing things come from those that do their own thing and pay no attention to convention. The bad thing is that they can be amazing triumphs or amazing failures. I am anxious to see how this turns out.

Later,
Scott Papa

[olydiscgolf]

The church has decided to reschedule Easter Sunday..... They understand the importance of WA TDG and were more than willing to oblige.... Just kidding of course.

We have rescheduled the WA TDG Final to Saturday the 7th of April @ Shelton Springs DGC.

[Rolly]

The church has decided to reschedule Easter Sunday..... They understand the importance of WA TDG and were more than willing to oblige.... Just kidding of course.

We have rescheduled the WA TDG Final to Saturday the 7th of April @ Shelton Springs DGC.

Hm, might have to miss it. It's the biggest Atheist convention of the year. :pullhair:

Even as a person that is indifferent to the holiday, it's still good to see things work out.

[olydiscgolf]

Hm, might have to miss it. It's the biggest Atheist convention of the year. :pullhair:

Even as a person that is indifferent to the holiday, it's still good to see things work out.

I just can't win, Rolly!!!!!

[WestsoundBT]

Chris,

c'mmon, you had me at hello.

However, I'm looking forward to the improved finale date. Hopefully I and the NADs will be playing for first!

[douglaselvis]

Hm, might have to miss it. It's the biggest Atheist convention of the year. :pullhair:

Even as a person that is indifferent to the holiday, it's still good to see things work out.

Ha!! Good Stuff!

[BIGARMBRANDON]

What's up captains I still need a team and really want to play don't care for who if you've got a free spot

[olydiscgolf]

There has been a couple of changes to the WA TDG schedule. The only date change is the Final event, it will be Saturday the 7th of April, instead of Sunday the 8th. The other changes are course changes. January 8th, (1st event) we will be playing Seatac instead of Lakewood. Feb 12th (4th event) will be at Fairgrounds instead of NAD. Feb 26th (5th event) we will be playing Lakewood instead of Seatac.

[TreeLove]

There has been a couple of changes to the WA TDG schedule. The only date change is the Final event, it will be Saturday the 7th of April, instead of Sunday the 8th. The other changes are course changes. January 8th, (1st event) we will be playing Seatac instead of Lakewood. Feb 12th (4th event) will be at Fairgrounds instead of NAD. Feb 26th (5th event) we will be playing Lakewood instead of Seatac.

Calendar updated.

[olydiscgolf]

Calendar updated.

You beat me to the PM! Thanks Gawain!

[LJ Jubner]

There has been a couple of changes to the WA TDG schedule. The only date change is the Final event, it will be Saturday the 7th of April, instead of Sunday the 8th. The other changes are course changes. January 8th, (1st event) we will be playing Seatac instead of Lakewood. Feb 12th (4th event) will be at Fairgrounds instead of NAD. Feb 26th (5th event) we will be playing Lakewood instead of Seatac.

is there going to be a visual aide?

[Tanya Spence]

I can't really figure out where to find the actual info for TDG... the website doesn't really have anything. How do I find out more? Where is this schedule that everyone is talking about? What are the costs associated? ...basically ANY information. Is just an "in the know" kind of thing?

[Yardbird]

Chris is the official spokesman for Wa TDG, but I'll offer up a few bits of info.

1) Yes, the website needs to be updated. It is being worked on. Hopefully, it will be up and running soon. It will be the go to place for all info, stats, and standings relating to the 2012 TDG season.

2) The best place to start is with the Captains for 2012 Wa TDG. They have already been informed with the details and would be the most help for now. Here's a list of the Captains. They should be busy with setting their rosters. Most teams are probably already set, but ask around.

Chris Auseth, Shelton
Andy Foster, White River
Sammy Huff, NAD
Carl Wark, Fairgrounds
Ian Markeson, Sea Tac
Sean Hadly (Jub Jub), Lakewood
Matt Broers, Way Outs
Ron Weimer, Fennwick
Dan Lilly, Steilly #1
Chris Blankato, Steilly #2
Jeremy Frieling, Riverside
Chris Gilberts, Team Oly


Hope that helps for now

[Yardbird]

Here's an easy to view schedule of the WA TDG events:

All events are on Sunday, except for the Final (Sat).

Jan 8 SeaTac Park
Jan 22 Riverside
Jan 29 Ft. Steilacoom
Feb 12 Kitsap Fairgrounds
Feb 26 Lakewood
Mar 11 White River
Mar 25 Bud Pell at Ross Farm
Apr 7 Shelton Springs (Final)

[olydiscgolf]

We have our own neighborhood to hang out in now! Thank you to Mr. Stengle, and the forum mods for opening the WA TDG section of the forum. Its located in the weekly/ monthly section. All further news and correspondence should be done there.

[Kenny B]

Looks like the player handicaps (initial rating) are up on the team disc golf website, sweet!

[Kenny B]

NOTICE: The 2nd team disc golf event at riverside tomorrow has been cancelled due to the current course condition following our recent snow storm.