WA TEAM DG edition #2

[DMajor]

Each player may play in a maximum of one doubles match per day. I played two and we had to forfeit the second one which we might have won depending on the handicaps

[TREX]

MCDG is setting up our Team Wa course this Saturday the 23rd for a round of random flip doubles at 12:00 noon. $5 a man. The course is open to anyone who wants to play not just doubles. If you got the time and want to check it out please feel free to come and play.


Course directions can be found here
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=3033

[olydiscgolf]

Thanks for posting directions Rex.

[Lund]

Results for weeks 1 and 2 are available at http://sites.google.com/site/wateamdisc/

[mazza]

team steli........yeah baby( other point and a half i could have made up) lol

[Lund]

I need to go double check all the 9 player bonus points. If you see any mistakes for that matter please feel free to let Gilby hear about it.

[GettinBetter]

Thanks for all the prompt and awesome work !!!! I mean that is a lot of work done for free. It is greatly appreciated! And I'll probably pay into the ace pot next time :slapface:

Ohh yeah, and White River kicked some butt again! I just hope we have at least 6 show up when we go up against Steily.

[Skookum]

hmmm... starting to wonder about letting Oly keep score. Quick question it seems as though the Results for Week 1 Mas v Oly do not match the score card.

Are the handicaps set now for the duration or will they be adjusted after each match?

Also I was a little confused on roster rules, as a team we need to bring 9 but they don't have to be the same 9 every time? I.E. if someone can't make it we can sub someone else and still receive our 1 point?

[GettinBetter]

hmmm... starting to wonder about letting Oly keep score. Quick question it seems as though the Results for Week 1 Mas v Oly do not match the score card.

Are the handicaps set now for the duration or will they be adjusted after each match?

Also I was a little confused on roster rules, as a team we need to bring 9 but they don't have to be the same 9 every time? I.E. if someone can't make it we can sub someone else and still receive our 1 point?

Im pretty sure rosters are set for the season, so no subs. Also, the handicaps should be set BEFORE each event, but will change for the next event. In other words you will know who won each match after the round is complete from now on, but the handicaps will change for the next venue.

[Skookum]

Yea just read the rules again and answered my own question sorry for not starting with that. I also noticed that the standing do reflect the tie so looks like its just a typo on the results page. A tie... of course you know Team Oly this means war!!! Ever heard of the Ryder Cup... think about it.


New question: Will the team captains have access to updated/current handcaps before they set their line ups?

[sillybizz]

I need to go double check all the 9 player bonus points. If you see any mistakes for that matter please feel free to let Gilby hear about it.

Team Terrace was given the 9-man point for both events at NAD and at WR and at both events we only had eight players. I sent Chris Gilberts a PM.

[olydiscgolf]

Yea just read the rules again and answered my own question sorry for not starting with that. I also noticed that the standing do reflect the tie so looks like its just a typo on the results page. A tie... of course you know Team Oly this means war!!! Ever heard of the Ryder Cup... think about it.


New question: Will the team captains have access to updated/current handcaps before they set their line ups?

You wont know the handicaps until the rosters are exchanged at the begining of the match. You need to have both players' ratings before handicaps can be figured. You can however, look up the ratings and find out where you stand.



We were having some issues with the spreadsheet last night, everything should be fairly close to where it needs to be, must have forgotten to change the results page.

[Lund]

hmmm... starting to wonder about letting Oly keep score. Quick question it seems as though the Results for Week 1 Mas v Oly do not match the score card.

Busted. The only problem now is that no matter how I work the spreadsheet I still cant get Oly a win....

However, I think that both the Schedule and Results page as well as the Standings are correct now.

[Toby Puttzinski]

Question: Will the results change once a handicap is established? For example, Sunday was my first rated tdg singles round, so will the result of my match be altered retroactively once a tdg handicap is established?

[Lund]

Question: Will the results change once a handicap is established? For example, Sunday was my first rated tdg singles round, so will the result of my match be altered retroactively once a tdg handicap is established?

Maybe this will help with a few different questions we have been getting...

Local Player Rating = average (all of your team disc golf singles round ratings + current PDGA rating*)
*for those of us that have one

Everyone's player rating will be re-calculated after each of the remaining 4 events. You can see all of our current player ratings (referred to as "local player rating" on the “rosters and player ratings.xls” spreadsheet which you can download from the “Files” page on the website.

Prior to each and every head to head matchup,
Handicap = (higher local player rating – lower player rating) / RPPS

RPPS (rating points per stroke) is based on on the course SSA - see the table on the “rules and scoring” page on the website. Usually this will be 9,10, or 11.

example : Crabtree vs Gilberts
1041 – 952 / 10 = 8.9
always round down so 8.9 → 8. So after the round add 8 shots to Crabtree's score to see who wins the matchup.

From here on out we will calculate each handicap before each match when the captains pick the lineups so we will all go into each match knowing just how many shots the higher rated player is giving.

Hope this helps.

[Lund]

Question: Will the results change once a handicap is established? For example, Sunday was my first rated tdg singles round, so will the result of my match be altered retroactively once a tdg handicap is established?

And to actually answer your question, Toby-

All of the matchups from the first 2 events are official now and will not change, and are based on each of our current ratings as they are right now (after White River). So your rating of 945 was used for any and all of your matches from NAD and White River.

It would also be your rating for next week's match at Shelton except I think we are hoping to factor in our new PDGA ratings after they do their update on the 25th.

[KG_MCDGC]

Just wanted to put a reminder out there that the Course that will be played for TDG on 1/31, will be set up with baskets tomorrow, all day. This Course is a temp Course played by MCDG during their BagTag events. Very few have played this particular Course, let alone with baskets. There will also be a random-draw doubles at noon, $5 buy-in. See you there!

[BAKE]

Thanks for posting this KG

[KCrabtree]

Any pictures from team golf at white river anywhere?

[TREX]

Umm.. Yea I got 60 some pics on my digi camera.. will get them up asap. Forgot till I read the post LOL

[TREX]

Pictures from the Team Wa White River event.

http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii4/rexter1971/Team%20WA-White%20River/

[DMAILMAN]

So I got a question. If the first event I play in is at Isabella, how is handicap figured. Will it be based off of the rounds played at Isabella plus my rating?

[olydiscgolf]

So I got a question. If the first event I play in is at Isabella, how is handicap figured. Will it be based off of the rounds played at Isabella plus my rating?

No Rob, your team has already replaced you for not showing up, twice!


JK. yes, PDGA rating + TDG rated round(s)

[DMAILMAN]

No Rob, your team has already replaced you for not showing up, twice!


JK. yes, PDGA rating + TDG rated round(s)

My Steili homeys are saving the best for last. I may have the lowest rating on the team darn it but I am just a fun guy to be around.

Two teams down...Four to go! See you all at Isabella Bioches.

[olydiscgolf]

My Steili homeys are saving the best for last. I may have the lowest rating on the team darn it but I am just a fun guy to be around.

Two teams down...Four to go! See you all at Isabella Bioches.

Rob, just an FYI, but you must play at least 2 TDG rated rounds (not doubles) to be eligible for the finals.

[Lund]

The newest PDGA ratings have been updated into our local ratings. These will be the ratings we use to figure our handicaps this weekend. The spreadsheet can be downloaded from the Files Page (http://sites.google.com/site/wateamdisc/home-1/files) on the website.

[Skookum]

Ok as our next extravaganza convenes in two days time, I believe it would be appropriate to begin the "Smack Taliking" as it were. So to kick things off I would just like to offer up this little often overlooked factoid:

MCDG KICKS ASS!!!!

[The Ombudsman]

It looks like a couple of teams may be forfeiting some matches this weekend due to players defecting to White River

[GettinBetter]

We have 5 going, so I think this means that we will be forfeiting both doubles rounds.

[sillybizz]

As far as I know we have seven, maybe less, we'll see.

[TREX]

I know the Team golf is gonna be fun but the Icebowl at WR sounds like a friggin blast. Have fun guys..

[olydiscgolf]

Directions to Lake Isabella

Take Hwy 101 from Olympia to the Hwy 3 ramp. Take Left off the ramp, this will bring you back down a service road parallel to 101 (W. Golden Pheasant Rd.). Turn right at the Golden Pheasant bar on to W Delight Park Rd. Follow this road for about half a mile or so and the course is on your right.

[Skookum]

I just want to say thank you to everyone who came out today I know for some its a long way to drive to slide around in the mud, but it shows a love of this sport that simply amazes me sometimes. On behalf of the Mason County Disc Golf Ass. was a pleasure having you all here hope we can entice you to return someday. It was great weather and good company, and someday we will have a course to complete the package. Up next, Team Oly right? Can't wait!

[Skookum]

Side note on the subject of player shortages, and this may just be a conversation about next year but what playing a 1v2 doubles match? Less folks sitting, and hey a least there is a chance, not a very good one considering it would NOT be Cali, just straight 1v2, but still if doubles team imploded and the single played great round... Makes for high drama, and I think stays in the spirit of the TDG which is getting out and playing with folks you may rarely see and having fun. My 2 cents.

[Lund]

Side note on the subject of player shortages, and this may just be a conversation about next year but what playing a 1v2 doubles match? Less folks sitting, and hey a least there is a chance, not a very good one considering it would NOT be Cali, just straight 1v2, but still if doubles team imploded and the single played great round... Makes for high drama, and I think stays in the spirit of the TDG which is getting out and playing with folks you may rarely see and having fun. My 2 cents.

Good Times today.

I updated the Scedule and Results (http://sites.google.com/site/wateamdisc/home-1/schedule-and-results) Page and the scorecard links there. The standings have been updated as well..

The round ratings are caculated but am having a little trouble with my open office spreadsheets so some of the round ratings get a little weird. All the round ratings and updated player ratings will be available for download tommorrow. SSS was like 51.7 for first round and 52.0 for the second round.

The 1v2 doubles idea is a good one to consider. Doesnt really work with our current doubles handicapping (which could be improved too). Hopefully no team comes up short again. After all we do have 3 alternates per team.

How bout that weather? We're really on a roll this year.

[DMajor]

1 vs 2 would be alot more fun than a forfeit for sure.

Way to pick up our first win Team Terrace!

[olydiscgolf]

1 vs. 2 doubles will probably not be an option any time soon. Like Lundy said, it doesn't work with our current handicap system. More than the handicap system though is the "spirit of the game" it's a "doubles" matchup.

I hope it doesn't become an issue of teams not fielding a full full roster, 3 alts. should be plenty!

[DMajor]

I thought the spirit of the game was to play fun golf. Three people playing a match sounds like more fun than zero people playing a match.

Food for thought for next year.

[olydiscgolf]

I thought the spirit of the game was to play fun golf. Three people playing a match sounds like more fun than zero people playing a match.

Food for thought for next year.

Check your math Major!

[Skookum]

hmmm I do realize that it current solution only sits one person and that the best thing is for six members of the Team to show. On the other hand I don't see the handicap as an unsurmountable obstacle either. Just sort of looking at it from the stand point of this being a reoccurring yearly event that may have more teams as well as more scheduling conflicts. I see no reason to change the policy for this year, for me this more of a "How could it work if?" conversation than anything else.

-thanks for the work you guys have done so far this has been a blast!

[sillybizz]

I think if these people can't commit to playing all or most of the events then they shouldn't play team golf, not to be a dick but I'm sure there are many other people wanting to be on a team that would commit to each event. I've had to tell a dozen people I'm sorry for not including them on Team Terrace, I like our team though.

[GettinBetter]

I feel that team golf is a commitment and will make every event. That being said I still think that in some cases I can see how someone will miss AN event. Hopefully not more than that though.

[olydiscgolf]

Well said Thomas! And Morgan, you bring up good points too. Dan, im sorry, but I stand by a doubles "team".

A couple of thoughts on the scheduling...I wanted this league to be a winter league for many reasons, but a main reason is to eliminate as many scheduling conflicts as possible. I think that TDG will make enough of an impact on the WA golf scene that winter tourneys will take into account our schedule before setting dates (and vice versa). I spoke with Tom, he didn't know there was a WA TDG event planned for last weekend. Had he known, Im sure we could have come up with a viable solution. This being the first year, I limited the number of teams to 6, next year will most likely have twice the number of teams, thus twice as many golfers.

Lundy and I have had a lot of conversation about the current doubles handicap system. Neither of us are happy with how its working out. It isn't exactly not working, its just not what we were looking for. The idea behind it was to help keep doubles matches closer with out huge handicaps. What its doing is keeping the handicaps too close and not giving strokes where they should be given. We have a few ideas on how to make it more consistent, we will continue to run the numbers until we come up with the best solution for us (I mean Team Oly)!

[GettinBetter]

I think Lund was talking to me about having the doubles handicap be based off of the highest rated person playing in a doubles match for a team.

[Sausage Fingers]

I think Lund was talking to me about having the doubles handicap be based off of the highest rated person playing in a doubles match for a team.

We have had a real hard time trying to find a good system to handicap the doubles matches. We tried to add the 2 ratings and divide by 2, but that really helps out teams with a 1000 rated player and a 700 rated player. This year we are going with just using the higher rated player's handicap, but that seems to favor the team that has 2 1000 rated players to pair up.

Next year I am thinking about going back to the previous method but making the dubs use an alternate shot format instead of best shot.

If you guys have any ideas that you think will work out better, I'd love to hear them.:pirate:

[sillybizz]

If you take two 900 rated players and put them together, that's 1800.
If you take one 1000 rated player and one 800 rated player, that's 1800. So these teams are playing scratch or even or whatever, no strokes given, correct?
The team with the 1000 rated player has an advantage in my opinion so I think basing the doubles handicap from the highest rated player is a better way to go, I'm not exactly how you guys are going to do that but it sounds like you're on the right track for next season.

I guess I gave away a little strategy here, oh well. :)

[Yardbird]

How about only allowing one player on the doubles team to have a rating above 950 (or something like that) and use the higher rated player's rating as the handicap? I think most teams could support this (except White River). Another option would to limit a team to only allow one of their top 4 rated players from playing in a given Doubles match (this would prevent two top rated players from pairing up.

Side note:
IMHO, the Doubles match should be 2 vs 2. If a team can't field all matches, then they should forfeit the matches to which they can't field. And Yes, I would like to see a doubles match fielded after the four singles matches are fielded. Just the way that TDG was handled last weekend.

[Kenny B]

I'd like to keep a best shot doubles format instead of going to an alternate shot format, if possible. I think it's more exciting that way because players have more opportunity to go for high risk/reward shots. Like when player one is sitting for an easy 3, player two can go for the duce without worrying about landing in the middle of some nasty trees. Or when player one puts an approach up for an easy putt, player two can run the chains.

[Skookum]

1000 + 800 vs 900 + 900... I think that the fairness of this match could really be more dependent on the difficulty of the course than any other factor. Out at Isabella where it is fairly wide open not a lot of punishment for shots that stray a little bit could be better suited fo the 800 + 1000 team but a tighter more technical course could be more suited towards the 900 + 900 team.

I'm not sure though if anything close to this scenario has happened yet looking back through the dubs matches so far they seem... fair I guess for lack of a better word. Are there doubles matches that the handicap system seems to have done a sleight disservice?

[olydiscgolf]

1000 + 800 vs 900 + 900... I think that the fairness of this match could really be more dependent on the difficulty of the course than any other factor. Out at Isabella where it is fairly wide open not a lot of punishment for shots that stray a little bit could be better suited fo the 800 + 1000 team but a tighter more technical course could be more suited towards the 900 + 900 team.

I'm not sure though if anything close to this scenario has happened yet looking back through the dubs matches so far they seem... fair I guess for lack of a better word.


Are there doubles matches that the handicap system seems to have done a sleight disservice?
Out of the 12 doubles matches that I've calculated, there were two that didn't seem right. When I used the (rating+rating/2) formula, those two matches changed.

[Toby Puttzinski]

I think it'd be really fun if 'match play' was somehow incorporated in future years.

[olydiscgolf]

I think it'd be really fun if 'match play' was somehow incorporated in future years.

Funny you should mention it Toby, there has been talk of another league forming that would incorporate match play. The basic idea is to have a weekly match against an opponent. Its up to you and your opponent when you play it. So say you and I are matched up for week 1. Sunday night I call you up and say "hey Toby, when this week is good for you to meet at such and such course, so I can show you how to play disc golf". you say "Monday is out for me, but Tuesday, Im gonna kick your butt"! I say "Bring it on"! "See you Tuesday". Tuesday comes, you destroy me, and you (because you won)email the outcome to the POI.

Thats it in a nutshell. This would be a seperate league, aside from WA TDG.

[sillybizz]

Would that league be handicapped as well?

[Sausage Fingers]

The basic idea is to have a weekly match against an opponent. Its up to you and your opponent when you play it. So say you and I are matched up for week 1. Sunday night I call you up and say "hey Toby, when this week is good for you to meet at such and such course, so I can show you how to play disc golf". you say "Monday is out for me, but Tuesday, Im gonna kick your butt"! I say "Bring it on"! "See you Tuesday". Tuesday comes, you destroy me, and you (because you won)email the outcome to the POI

This is how team disc golf was set up for the first couple of years. It was up to the captains to set up 2 matches each month, 1 at your home course and 1 at your opponent's.:pirate:

[olydiscgolf]

Would that league be handicapped as well?

I don't know. It would be dificult to handicap singles matches, unless everybody had an established/accurate rating to go from.

I am not running this league, but there has been talk of it forming.

[DMajor]

I'm gonna start a 2v1 doubles league if your interested Chris















J/k

[olydiscgolf]

I'm gonna start a 2v1 doubles league if your interested Chris














J/k


I am SOOOO in Major! Sounds like a lot of fun, I wish there was a format like that someplace!

[sillybizz]

Next team golf we should have a triples match each round ......

And make it tough shot! :evilgrin: :laughing:

[JR Stengele]

Did someone say throwbot?

[cefire]

YES!!!! Birth of the 6 hour disc golf round... :)

[sillybizz]

Did someone say throwbot?

And how in the living crap would you handicap Throwbot?! :laughing: awesome.

[Toby Puttzinski]

It handicaps itself.

[GettinBetter]

Seems like the points are off in the standings section, at least they are for STE and WHR

[olydiscgolf]

Seems like the points are off in the standings section, at least they are for STE and WHR

It looks like a few of the scores got messed up. We'll get it straightened out.

[Lund]

It looks like a few of the scores got messed up. We'll get it straightened out.

I updated some stuff on the site. Sorry been slacking, getting caught up now.

[sillybizz]

I updated some stuff on the site. Sorry been slacking, getting caught up now.

I just checked it out. Thanks for the mention of me beating my handicap by 93 points, it was one of my best rounds ever.

[olydiscgolf]

Bring your rain gear (and canoe), looks like its gonna be a wet day at Yauger. We will be playing a slightly modified course that will hopefully alleviate some of the water from our boots.

[Ode]

Bring your rain gear (and canoe), looks like its gonna be a wet day at Yauger. We will be playing a slightly modified course that will hopefully alleviate some of the water from our boots.

went down yesterday and played it when it was dumping, quite a site to see a five foot creek where there was a path before.

[GettinBetter]

went down yesterday and played it when it was dumping, quite a site to see a five foot creek where there was a path before.

:shocked:

Lets get it this on!

[olydiscgolf]

It took a little course rearranging, but we got to play golf today! And what a beautiful day it turned out to be, just ask Dan Lilley. TWO, let me say that again, TWO, second round ACES)!
But unfortunately for Steilly, it wasn't enough.

Great job by that Spencer Stuart kid, he scored the only two match points for NAD! I'd like to say I gave him one of those points, but he earned it!

[Lund]

Results are posted on the site. (http://sites.google.com/site/wateamdisc/home-1)

Check there for the updated standings, scorecards, round ratings, and proof of Dan Lilley's 2 aces on the front 9. I heard a rumor he got one in warmups too? Yikes.

[Toby Puttzinski]

It puts me in 'time-out' for five minutes every time I go to the WTDG site to see if results have been recorded?

[olydiscgolf]

It puts me in 'time-out' for five minutes every time I go to the WTDG site to see if results have been recorded?

Maybe its angry at you for not showing up yesterday!

[sillybizz]

Maybe its angry at you for not showing up yesterday!

OH BOY!

[Toby Puttzinski]

Better it than the family... and BTW, I haven't 'shown up' yet this season, so I'm just shooting for consistency.

[GettinBetter]

Man this is getting intense, can't wait 'till Terrace!

[olydiscgolf]

Man this is getting intense, can't wait 'till Terrace!

There is a lot riding on this Terrace event! One of the top two teams could be looking at third!

[DMajor]

Or fourth

[sillybizz]

I just wanted to update everyone on the conditions at Terrace Creek for this weekend...

If you have played the course before you will know it gets pretty muddy this time of year and it's going to rain this week. We have got bark spread around tee pads and baskets as best as we can without upsetting the city of MLT. There isn't much garbage on the course these days as us locals are doing a better job and this weekend I am going to pick up any remaining litter I can see and get rid of it. Another note for those of you who have never played the course: you will see yellow bands of tape on the baskets, this is our version of a next tee sign, just go in the general direction of where the tape points you. I'm looking forward to taking on Team OLY! :)

[SPIDER-DAN]

Yeah!!! Im looking forward to you taking on team oly as well. Please, please, please take em down.

[olydiscgolf]

Sounds like a bunch of us South Siders are heading up on Saturday to play and stay. Open invite if anybody wants to tag along or get a money round going. I'm looking forward to playing the course! Its been a while.

[GettinBetter]

Yeah!!! Im looking forward to you taking on team oly as well. Please, please, please take em down.

Or we can just tie and it doesnt matter what Oly does, but that would not be fun would it...

[SPIDER-DAN]

or we can just tie and it doesnt matter what oly does, but that would not be fun would it...

depends..........save it all for fort steilacoom showdown.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Great job today team steilly........looks as though we have to do it again in two weeks.

Good job to team mt. Lake terrace as well!

Hey Chris, I guess I forgot to get the rest of the ace pot from you today.........see ya in two weeks.

[GettinBetter]

Great job today team steilly........looks as though we have to do it again in two weeks.

Good Luck

[sillybizz]

Good job to team mt. Lake terrace as well!

Thanks Dan, we were playing spoiler yesterday, sorry Team Oly! It was really fun once again, see you all at Steili.

P.S. What layout are we playing in two weeks?

[sillybizz]

Oh and who won between NAD and MAS?

[olydiscgolf]

According to my un-official calculations, the final matches will be the same as they were yesterday. Steilly vs. WR, NAD vs. MAS, Oly vs. Terrace. Terrace kicked our butts all over North Seattle, and it was good enough to move into the hunt for third place!

Oh yea Dan I still have your ace money! Better get it quick, I have a mortgage due!

[JR Stengele]

According to my un-official calculations, the final matches will be the same as they were yesterday. Steilly vs. WR, NAD vs. MAS, Oly vs. Terrace. Terrace kicked our butts all over North Seattle, and it was good enough to move into the hunt for third place!

Oh yea Dan I still have your ace money! Better get it quick, I have a mortgage due!

Nice! Go team Terrace... we will be gunning for third as it is our rightful spot!!
:shooting::waaah:

[Tim]

2nd place loser!

[Yardbird]

NAD vs MAS (5-5). It was the first event that we didn't have all nine of our players and the bonus point would have been nice for the win. But, in the end, it didn't matter, because Oly got thier butts handed to them.:nahnah:

We needed to earn more points in week 5 than Terrace for a chance to play for 3rd at the 'final'.

Looking forward to a rematch against Mason County at the Final.

[olydiscgolf]

Updated the team golf website, check it out.

[Yardbird]

The standings for Mason county should be 1-2-2.

[olydiscgolf]

Good looking out Sammy! I'll talk to my people and get it fixed.

[GettinBetter]

I was think about something different for the finals, just spitballing here

What if we put everyone's name in a hat and paired up everyone randomly, doubles and everything.

Also, what if we had all 9 of our players playing each round. So if a team didn't have someone show up, that would be a forfeit. In my opinion this would show the true strength of each team.

[SPIDER-DAN]

How is the winner being established in reference to overall record vs. All out winning the last match.

For example, if white river wins but still does not match the points that steilly put up overall throughout the season do they win or does stielly?

If white river loses and oly wins........does oly get second place?

[GettinBetter]

How is the winner being established in reference to overall record vs. All out winning the last match.

For example, if white river wins but still does not match the points that steilly put up overall throughout the season do they win or does stielly?

If white river loses and oly wins........does oly get second place?

The last match was Sunday. Next meeting is the "Championship Match" Who ever wins between us, wins it all outright.

[JR Stengele]

The last match was Sunday. Next meeting is the "Championship Match" Who ever wins between us, wins it all outright.

Doesn't it seem like the final rankings should be based on overall points? If not, does that mean the worst place terrace can get is 4th? Best is 3rd?

[Ode]

The last match was Sunday. Next meeting is the "Championship Match" Who ever wins between us, wins it all outright.

this is actually not how it is going to happen. im sure chris will reply soon to clear this up.

[GettinBetter]

this is actually not how it is going to happen. im sure chris will reply soon to clear this up.

I never said White River were the smartest disc golfers around... :slapface: Nor do we strategize the best either... we deserve to lose now. I think I'm gonna be sick :puke:

[olydiscgolf]

The winners are decided first by W/L/T record. If there is a tie, then total points for the season. If there is still a tie, then it comes down to who won during the regular season match. If there is STILL a tie, it comes down to a CTP by all present team members.

ie. Steilly and White River are playing for the championship. The worse that either one of them can do is second place. The only way that WR can win is if they beat Steilly by more than the 4.5 points that Steilly is currently ahead by.


As far as playing all nine members of the team (in the final), it seems like everybody is all for it. Teams will not forfeit a match if they can't field 9 though, (two teams have only 8 left due to injury).

I think it would add a cool twist to things to draw match ups out of a hat. Ill run it by the captains and see what they think.

Eric, even if we decide not to use this idea as a whole, you could still convince your team and your opponent to do it!

[JR Stengele]

Not sure about the hat thing but the rest of the info seems good. Thanks for the reply.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Is the results going to be put up (scorecards and such) from mt. Lake terrace?

[olydiscgolf]

They are up.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Maybe its just on my computer, but i dont see the 'here' link for the scorecards for mt. Lake terrace...........figures. I see the standings is updated, but thats about it......hmmm. Thanks chris..... See ya in a week.

[Yardbird]

I can't view the scorecards either. This also happened to me for the Yauger event until Lundy did something to fix it. Please fix it.

[olydiscgolf]

http://sites.google.com/site/wateamdisc/

[olydiscgolf]

I can view them on my computer, but when I put a link up here they aren't available. Im not sure what the issue is, I'll see if Lundy can do anything about it.

[JR Stengele]

Individual stats are still not up. Overall team scores are but I see nothing else.

[sillybizz]

Yeah I'm getting the same thing.

[TREX]

Hmm, I'm using google chrome and it comes right up. Might be browser related issues.

[sillybizz]

So you're seeing the results from Terrace?

[Ode]

at the steili event, we will be playing par72 and the am layouts. most of the baskets are in place with a few moved pin placements. the rest of the baskets should be here on monday and then out on the course shortly there after. you can thank discraft for the delay on the return of steily. see everyone next weekend

[olydiscgolf]

at the steili event, we will be playing par72 and the am layouts. most of the baskets are in place with a few moved pin placements. the rest of the baskets should be here on monday and then out on the course shortly there after. you can thank discraft for the delay on the return of steily. see everyone next weekend

What are the course SSA'S?

[Kenny B]

you can thank discraft for the delay on the return of steily

What do you mean, "thank discraft"?

[DMajor]

Obviously Discraft stole the baskets

[Sausage Fingers]

Obviously Discraft stole the baskets

Yeah, I've seen the leaked internal memo outlining their plan to steal baskets from local courses to increase the sale of their own baskets as replacements...it's all over these intertubes...:pirate:

[sillybizz]

at the steili event, we will be playing par72 and the am layouts. most of the baskets are in place with a few moved pin placements. the rest of the baskets should be here on monday and then out on the course shortly there after. you can thank discraft for the delay on the return of steily. see everyone next weekend

Par 72?! I'm not familiar with that course at all, so please allow my ignorance... Is par 72 a 24 hole layout or is there that many par 4's and 5's?

[olydiscgolf]

Its 18 holes.

[sillybizz]

Holy cow that should be fun.

[olydiscgolf]

WA TDG and TDGPA will be providing an excellent post round dinner for all WA TDG'ers and their families on Sunday 3/14. The menu is yet to be determined, but I can assure you it will be great!

After the par 72 noodle arm course, you're going to need it!

[sillybizz]

Is there anyone available to show me this layout sometime this week?

[DMajor]

Are we still going to be playing two rounds?

[olydiscgolf]

Are we still going to be playing two rounds?

First round is par 72, second round is the AM course.

[GettinBetter]

I hope I can keep my undefeated streak alive!!! Par 72 is the only one I haven't played yet. Im still trying to heal from Terrace, I hope I can be at 100%

[mazza]

First round is par 72, second round is the AM course.

am course where??...steli ??....remember they took that course out(doh:slapface:)

[mazza]

Is there anyone available to show me this layout sometime this week?

i can tomorrow( tuesday around 9 am???)

or Wednesday if need be

[olydiscgolf]

am course where??...steli ??....remember they took that course out(doh:slapface:)

The beauty behind having the pres and vice pres of the TDGPA involved in TDG is that we get to shut down the course for the day AND instal the baskets where we want!

[olydiscgolf]

Now if we could convince Team Steilly to play their whole team both rounds of TDG....we would really have something!

[Ode]

http://odsa.com/images/stil_par72.gif

that is the URL for a map of the par 72 layout. there will be maps for everyone at the event. beware odsa.com though, i was getting a virus alert when trying to get to the map, it looks like the direct link to the map is fine but the website was no bueno, but be careful.

[sillybizz]

HOLY CRAP! This layout is over 2 miles long just in hole distances! Are we playing two rounds?! I think I will be ready for bed after one, I don't have a big arm, I can see 80+ throws for me in round one and a sore shoulder on Monday.

[Lund]

http://odsa.com/images/stil_par72.gif

that is the URL for a map of the par 72 layout. there will be maps for everyone at the event. beware odsa.com though, i was getting a virus alert when trying to get to the map, it looks like the direct link to the map is fine but the website was no bueno, but be careful.

Wow I suddenly remember what it was like trying to navigate Steilacoom the first 15 times with those maps taken right out of the journals of Lewis and Clark.

That was only a few years ago but surely the TDGA has some newer maps?

[olydiscgolf]

HOLY CRAP! This layout is over 2 miles long just in hole distances! Are we playing two rounds?! I think I will be ready for bed after one, I don't have a big arm, I can see 80+ throws for me in round one and a sore shoulder on Monday.

If you shoot 80 or better on the par 72 Noodle arm course....i'll kiss your ass and give you an hour to draw a crowd! Its looooong!

[sillybizz]

I'm going out to the field to practice right now with a head lamp, I'm holding you to that Chris! :) hehe

I just hope I get over my turbo putting slump by this weekend.

[mazza]

The beauty behind having the pres and vice pres of the TDGPA involved in TDG is that we get to shut down the course for the day AND instal the baskets where we want!

that should be cheating

[mazza]

HOLY CRAP! This layout is over 2 miles long just in hole distances! Are we playing two rounds?! I think I will be ready for bed after one, I don't have a big arm, I can see 80+ throws for me in round one and a sore shoulder on Monday.

only 80+ haha...just try to keep it under 100+

[sillybizz]

Never played this layout, I'm hoping someone will want to show it to me this week sometime? Yeah now that I think about my scores at Milo, under 100 is probably a good score.

[TYVEK]

you guys dont seem like you have very much self esteem here talking about scoring 80-100 on a PAR 72 course! hello!! why not be shooting for 65-72?? here is a secret for shooting par, play safe shots. play strictly for par, not for birdies.

when you start shooting for birdies you start making riskier shots and those dont always turn out the way you wanted. play safe shots that you KNOW will be in the fairway and are well placed for your next shot.

but hey, for team terrace i say shoot all the crazy shots you want! it will make it that MUCH EASIER TO BEAT YOU GUYS!:nahnah:

GO TEAM OLY!

[olydiscgolf]

No matter how much self esteem you have going in, the Noddle Arm will beat it out of you!!!
Actually it's not as bad as I make it seem. Me and Ronnie B shot -6 66 in doubles the last time I played it. But it is long.

[Toby Puttzinski]

I was thinking that it'd be fun to have a disc golf 'swap meet' at lunch or after the second round... some of us from Team Terrace will be bringing alot of tradables. If this sounds interesting to you, please spread the word to your teammates prior to Sundays' finale.

[JR Stengele]

Good idea Toby

[GettinBetter]

I think we should play our whole teams because not to many times are a lot of us going to be able to play competively on the Par 72 course. It seems like the right thing to do...

[sillybizz]

Is the par 72 course a safari layout or one of the regular layouts? I have no idea because I don't know the course at all.

[olydiscgolf]

Is the par 72 course a safari layout or one of the regular layouts? I have no idea because I don't know the course at all.

It used to be a published course, back when there was 14 published courses. Now with the streamlining of Steilly, there are only a few published courses; the NW, the SE, the AM? It is also a "safari" course, it uses the WHOLE park for one course.

[sillybizz]

OH OK I didn't know. I always hear people talk about the NW and SE course and then say there are 14 safari layouts too. I like the part of the course (the one time I was there years ago) that was north I believe of the main parking lot and down in a little valley and wooded, I hope we use some of that too, I'm looking forward to going back and playing this place again, from what I remember there is some sweet land out there.

[mazza]

OH OK I didn't know. I always hear people talk about the NW and SE course and then say there are 14 safari layouts too. I like the part of the course (the one time I was there years ago) that was north I believe of the main parking lot and down in a little valley and wooded, I hope we use some of that too, I'm looking forward to going back and playing this place again, from what I remember there is some sweet land out there.

that my friend is the n.w course....but the pro also plays thru the grove..also the par 72 also plays thru there

[The Ombudsman]

:yay:
Woot!
Par 72 is the way to play!
Just like the old days...

I have been checking out the map and scorecard. I see there is a 175' par 2!?
:evilgrin:

[mazza]

:yay:
Woot!
Par 72 is the way to play!
Just like the old days...

I have been checking out the map and scorecard. I see there is a 175' par 2!?
:evilgrin:

That would be se 2 I belive

[olydiscgolf]

:yay:
Woot!
Par 72 is the way to play!
Just like the old days...

I have been checking out the map and scorecard. I see there is a 175' par 2!?
:evilgrin:

That would be #2 on the SE course. It is longer than 175 now, with the new baskets and such out there they lengthened it a bit. That hole plays as a par three in the SE layout.

[Tim]

So technically, we're playing a Par 73 then?

Also, I know it's possible to get a 7 on that hole. :whistler:

[olydiscgolf]

So technically, we're playing a Par 73 then?

Also, I know it's possible to get a 7 on that hole. :whistler:

Im not sure exactly about the par there. It is called the Par 72.


How do you know you can get a 7 there? Thats tough to do!

[Tim]

With imagination and determination, anything is possible.

One possible scenario would be trying for the ace run, but ricocheting off a tree into the road. Then trying to salvage an embarrassing 4p on the easiest hole on the course by getting your disc back in and towards the basket, you bounce off another tree and into the road again. Standing from the road, you realize there isn't any clear window to the basket, and do what you can to get close by trying to power through some branches. You're left with a long putt, miss it, and finally make the comebacker as the rest of your card looks on in pain.

Of course, the sensible thing to do would be to retee when the first shot flies OB, but where's the fun in that (purely hypothetical situation)?

[mazza]

With imagination and determination, anything is possible.

One possible scenario would be trying for the ace run, but ricocheting off a tree into the road. Then trying to salvage an embarrassing 4p on the easiest hole on the course by getting your disc back in and towards the basket, you bounce off another tree and into the road again. Standing from the road, you realize there isn't any clear window to the basket, and do what you can to get close by trying to power through some branches. You're left with a long putt, miss it, and finally make the comebacker as the rest of your card looks on in pain.

Of course, the sensible thing to do would be to retee when the first shot flies OB, but where's the fun in that (purely hypothetical situation)?

nope... sounds alot like some of what i have seen on that hole...my best has been a 5...(after hitting pole)

[olydiscgolf]

With imagination and determination, anything is possible.

One possible scenario would be trying for the ace run, but ricocheting off a tree into the road. Then trying to salvage an embarrassing 4p on the easiest hole on the course by getting your disc back in and towards the basket, you bounce off another tree and into the road again. Standing from the road, you realize there isn't any clear window to the basket, and do what you can to get close by trying to power through some branches. You're left with a long putt, miss it, and finally make the comebacker as the rest of your card looks on in pain.

Of course, the sensible thing to do would be to retee when the first shot flies OB, but where's the fun in that (purely hypothetical situation)?

Thanks for the hypothetical Tim. Id feel bad for that guy if it would ever happen, seems really unlikely though!

[Lund]

Daylight savings time goes into effect this Saturday night.

[sillybizz]

and that's when the pain killers start as well! :)

[TYVEK]

Rebecca and i went out and played the par 72 course yesterday afternoon. never had played it before and i have to say that i am impressed.
It wasnt as bad as it looked on the map, but it is deffinately a challenging layout that requires more shot placement than just raw power.
i shot a 79 with only my 2 meteors(best midrange ever made) and my putter and that was with ALOT of horrible shots. a couple boinking of some trees fairly close to the teepads. love those trees. i think if i would have used my drivers the score would have probably been in the 80s or 90s :shocked::jumpspin::D

Anyways, i really liked some of the new basket locations for some holes, deffinately makes stillicoom a bit more difficult. looking forward to this sunday!!:trophy::trophy::confused:

[sillybizz]

Not sure about all of that but the Meteor is really awesome I can agree with you there!

[sillybizz]

Man I am starting to get sad with the realization that this season is almost over. I just want to say a GIGANTIC THANKS to Chris Gilberts, Eric Lund and company, everyone that has participated this season, Kathy for the chili dogs and anyone else I forgot to mention, this was a blast! Soon the little saying "Captain: Team Terrace" under my screen name will have to be changed and we'll all have to wait till next year. I met and played with some really cool people and played some courses I haven't played yet or hardly ever get to. I don't want to speculate on next year but I'm thinking it's going to be a lot bigger and I would love to Captain Team Terrace again if I'm able. See you at Steili!

[mazza]

i was a day late and 10 dollars short from playing this season. but i do hope to play next year. now just if a team would be willin to put up with me( and what personality that may come with me):evilgrin:. i'm gonna try and be out there suinday to maybe spot or something. if nothing else met some of yall from up on here

[olydiscgolf]

I was unable to find any SSA info for the Noodle arm or the AM courses at Steilly. So using a very scientific guessing method.....Noodle arm = 10 rating points/ stroke, AM = 11 rating points/ stroke. If anybody has any actual scientific knowledge of the SSA I'd love to hear it.

[cefire]

SSA ratings points usually decrease as the stroke total increases - paging Chuck Kennedy...

From what it sounds like you are probably looking at 8.5-9 for noodle arm course - no idea for AM course.

[GettinBetter]

I would say 8 on the par 72

And 12 for the AM

[sillybizz]

I would say 8 on the par 72

And 12 for the AM

So we're using a different course for round two then we are for round one? I didn't understand that I guess, so how does the AM course look, what's the par on that one?

[olydiscgolf]

Yes, we are playing the AM course for round 2. The par is 54. I guess I'll have to do a little more research on the SSA.

[sillybizz]

So is it official that we are playing all nine members of our teams on Sunday? I haven't received any email yet just thought I would ask.

[olydiscgolf]

You may play as many members of your team as your opponent can.

[BAKE]

Wow This is going to be a Super Disc Golf Day!!! Will eat my wheeetys

[sillybizz]

Awesome Chris, let the strategy begin. I think OLY has bigger arms then us, we are going to have to take you second round!

[olydiscgolf]

Awesome Chris, let the strategy begin. I think OLY has bigger arms then us, we are going to have to take you second round!

BRING IT! (and the Valkyrie)

[DMajor]

Awesome Chris, let the strategy begin. I think OLY has bigger arms then us, we are going to have to take you second round!

I totally agree. Oly has really big arms in fact they are huge. Us wimpy team terrace folk will be lucky if we get our discs within one hundred feet of those guys off the tee:nahnah:

[olydiscgolf]

I totally agree. Oly has really big arms in fact they are huge. Us wimpy team terrace folk will be lucky if we get our discs within one hundred feet of those guys off the tee:nahnah:

I couldn't have said it better myself Major!

Its already been broughten!

[sillybizz]

We have our secret weapon: Sheila muahahahahahahahahahaahah!!!!!!!!!

No man can beat Sheila one on one with handicaps involved!

[olydiscgolf]

We have our secret weapon: Sheila muahahahahahahahahahaahah!!!!!!!!!

No man can beat Sheila one on one with handicaps involved!

There is no Sheila muahahahahahahahahahaahah on your roster. She won't be allowed to play. Sorry!

[sillybizz]

DANGIT! my plans have been spoiled, I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids!

[TYVEK]

I totally agree. Oly has really big arms in fact they are huge. Us wimpy team terrace folk will be lucky if we get our discs within one hundred feet of those guys off the tee:nahnah:

you would think that big arms have the advantage but they dont on the par 72 course. Only a couple holes will allow the big guns to utilize their distance potential, most of this course is ALL ABOUT SHOT PLACEMENT not how far you can throw it into the scotch broom or trees. i would rather be 275 ft in the fairway looking at 400 more feet to the basket than being 400 feet in the blackberrys/ scotchbroom with 275 more feet to go without a clear shot.

but hey, go ahead and fire your cannons. i will wave to you from the fairway! :p

[GettinBetter]

Im just glad that everyone will have the chance to play a competitive round on the Par 72 course.
Which will not happen often for most.

[olydiscgolf]

Its official.... After much more research and discussion..... The SSA's will be as follows.

Par 72 Noodlearm SSA = 70-71. Rating points/ per stroke = 6

The Steilly Amature Course SSA = 44-45. Rating points/ per stroke = 13

This should make for an exciting day of golf. There will be alot of strokes given on the Noodlearm Course.

ie. Crabtree vs. Rob Dean, Kyle gives Rob 17 strokes!

The lunch will be Steak and Chicken Fajitas, served between rounds rather than after. A nice meal after the brutal Noodlearm will be a welcome sight!

[mazza]

well i was gonna come out an do some spotting. but it looks like i'm not gonna be able to. do to no baby sitter so i may show between rounds and say whats up.

[DMajor]

Spring forward tonight!

[GettinBetter]

Spring forward tonight!

Yes lets be on time!!!

[B.winkler]

Steilly!

[B.winkler]

:cheers::cheers::rockon:Steilly!

[Tim]

Thanks for your hard work in putting this all together Chris and Eric. Had a great time out there today, it was a perfect season finale event. An ass kicker of a course followed by some steamin' hot fajitas with a feel-good ace run round to end it all. Good times, lookin' forward to next year!

[JR Stengele]

Thanks for your hard work in putting this all together Chris and Eric. Had a great time out there today, it was a perfect season finale event. An ass kicker of a course followed by some steamin' hot fajitas with a feel-good ace run round to end it all. Good times, lookin' forward to next year!

Couldn't of said it better myself! What a great season, and truly a lot of great people. It was nice to get to travel south and play some really fun courses. Look forward to season two with perhaps a couple more teams from the north. Thanks again Chris and everyone elso who made it all possible. Thanks also to the wonderful dger who brought the fajitas, as they hit the spot after the tough and painful par 72 course. Thanks for the memories!:dancing:

[SPIDER-DAN]

YES....I HAVE TO SAY THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE FUNNEST DISC GOLF EVENTS I HAVE EVER HAD THE PLEASURE OF PARTICIPATING IN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK EVERYONE INVOLVED HAS DONE TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE........IM SURE WA TEAM DISC GOLF WILL BE HERE TO STAY. IM EAGER TO HEAR SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FOR NEXT YEAR..... JUST WISH THERE WAS SOME KIND OF SPRING/SUMMER LEAGUE.

THANKS TO ALL THAT PURCHASED SOME DISCS TO HELP RAISE ENOUGH FUNDS TOWARD THE BASKET FUND........IT REALLY HELPS TO GET CAUGHT UP ON THE FUNDS THE TACOMA CLUB HAD TO PAY OUT FOR THE NEW SLEEVES AND LOCKS.

WAY TO GO STEILLY :trophy:

[LakeStevensBA]

Lake Stevens looks forward to fielding a team in 2011 and expects to kick something similar to an ass.

Team Hold My Beer While I Kiss Your Girlfriend ....will be there....

Way to go Steilly!

[sillybizz]

3RD PLACE, TEAM TERRACE!!! WOOO HOOO!!!

Yeah it was awesome, got to meet and play with some really cool people and play some courses I don't normally get to play. Next time you see Chris Gilberts, tell him he's awesome, cause it was a ton of work for him and he did an awesome job, thanks Chris! Thanks everyone, see you all next year!

[olydiscgolf]

Thanks for the support everybody, I had a blast putting this thing on! I couldn't have done it with out Eric Lund, he's the voice of reason AND the computer guru. Thanks to ORTDG's Jordan lewis for all of his help. Thanks to all the captains, especially Sam Huff, for all the feedback on the rules and format ideas. Thanks to Orion for the amazing dye jobs and Rex for the art work and vinyl. Thanks to my wife for allowing all of this to happen in the first place! I look forward to feedback from the players and captains to grow and develop this league for the future, and building it on the foundation we've created.

[Toby Puttzinski]

:cheerleader::yay::cheers::yay::cheerleader:





:seeya:

[mazza]

YES....I HAVE TO SAY THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE FUNNEST DISC GOLF EVENTS I HAVE EVER HAD THE PLEASURE OF PARTICIPATING IN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK EVERYONE INVOLVED HAS DONE TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE........IM SURE WA TEAM DISC GOLF WILL BE HERE TO STAY. IM EAGER TO HEAR SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FOR NEXT YEAR..... JUST WISH THERE WAS SOME KIND OF SPRING/SUMMER LEAGUE.

THANKS TO ALL THAT PURCHASED SOME DISCS TO HELP RAISE ENOUGH FUNDS TOWARD THE BASKET FUND........IT REALLY HELPS TO GET CAUGHT UP ON THE FUNDS THE TACOMA CLUB HAD TO PAY OUT FOR THE NEW SLEEVES AND LOCKS.

WAY TO GO STEILLY :trophy:

woot glad to say i got one of those disc...and i belive there will be a summer team league at steli or river side....that was really cool to be there and see all the team members there... it was also nice getting to place faces with the names from on here...i had a blast throwing with thomas and the ladies

[JR Stengele]

Lake Stevens looks forward to fielding a team in 2011 and expects to kick something similar to an ass.

Team Hold My Beer While I Kiss Your Girlfriend ....will be there....

Way to go Steilly!

You mean a team from Arlington!?! Not sure LS could hold six teams or perhaps even more including an updated northern division.
:wink2:

[douglaselvis]

Here's a pic of the CHAMPS!!!
http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/douglaselvis/S6301131.jpg

and here's the CTP/Acepot winner, with his posse!

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/douglaselvis/theboys_benihanas.jpg

Great season of Team Golf! Way to go Chris & Eric! Thanks for making this all happen!

[DMajor]

Chris Gilberts had the voice and Eric Lund the brains. Great job putting together a great winter league and thanks to everybody else who put time into setup courses and food!

My only suggestion for next year would be to have a regular season at everyone's home courses. Followed by a tournament style finale at a neutral course.

Example- First round-Semi Final

1 vs 4
2 vs 3

Second Round

Winner vs Winner of the first round. Winner takes all regardless of total points or standings

Or if we had a total of eight teams. It could be a two day finale or two weekend finale matching the highest to the lowest seeds. That way every team has a shot at pulling out a championship ala march madness. That would definitely make for a very exciting anything could happen finish

[KCrabtree]

Chris Gilberts had the voice and Eric Lund the brains. Great job putting together a great winter league and thanks to everybody else who put time into setup courses and food!

My only suggestion for next year would be to have a regular season at everyone's home courses. Followed by a tournament style finale at a neutral course.

Example- First round-Semi Final

1 vs 4
2 vs 3

Second Round

Winner vs Winner of the first round. Winner takes all regardless of total points or standings

Or if we had a total of eight teams. It could be a two day finale or two weekend finale matching the highest to the lowest seeds. That way every team has a shot at pulling out a championship ala march madness. That would definitely make for a very exciting anything could happen finish

Dan the man!

[olydiscgolf]

Chris Gilberts had the voice and Eric Lund the brains. Great job putting together a great winter league and thanks to everybody else who put time into setup courses and food!

My only suggestion for next year would be to have a regular season at everyone's home courses. Followed by a tournament style finale at a neutral course.

Example- First round-Semi Final

1 vs 4
2 vs 3

Second Round

Winner vs Winner of the first round. Winner takes all regardless of total points or standings

Or if we had a total of eight teams. It could be a two day finale or two weekend finale matching the highest to the lowest seeds. That way every team has a shot at pulling out a championship ala march madness. That would definitely make for a very exciting anything could happen finish

Well said Major! Well said! Im definetly the captain of the LOUD team!

I too like the idea of a winner takes all, tourney style format.

[sillybizz]

I love that idea. Also we need some more North end teams; Lakewood/Seatac, Juel/North Park (damn North Parkers! can't trust em!) Arlington/Lake Stevens. I'm not complaining because I had a blast but Terrace did the most driving.

[olydiscgolf]

Here's a pic of the CHAMPS!!!
http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/douglaselvis/S6301131.jpg

and here's the CTP/Acepot winner, with his posse!

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/douglaselvis/theboys_benihanas.jpg

Great season of Team Golf! Way to go Chris & Eric! Thanks for making this all happen!

Good looking pics Doug! Well, the bottom one anyway! I know you were celebrating the CTP win, but are those kids tall enough to be having drinks with umbrellas in them?

[douglaselvis]

Notice Spencer doesn't have a drink in front of him. He was the designated drvier! Just like on the course!! Thanks again Chris!

[sillybizz]

woot glad to say i got one of those disc...and i belive there will be a summer team league at steli or river side....that was really cool to be there and see all the team members there... it was also nice getting to place faces with the names from on here...i had a blast throwing with thomas and the ladies

Yeah it was nice we finally met RJ, holy cow can you throw a ton! I played so bad that day.:headbang:

[Tim]

Are the results to the final event going to be posted? I'd kind of like to see the ratings for the par 72 course, as my round felt not entirely horrible.

[Yardbird]

I would also like to see the ratings for the Par 72 and the short Am course.

Please udpate the website with the final results.

[JR Stengele]

Word!

[Lund]

Word!

soon, fellas.

[Lund]

I would also like to see the ratings for the Par 72 and the short Am course.

Please udpate the website with the final results.

SSA was 71.8 for Par72 Noodle Arm, 45.8 for the Am course.

I uploaded the round ratings spreadsheets for Week 6 to the Files page on the site. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and download away.

I also updated the final standings. I have not entered the individual scorecards just yet. I'll update the final points then too. Keep in mind the points dont factor into the final standings since we didnt have any ties with the overall records.

[olydiscgolf]

Last chance for TDG Sweatshirts. $35. Let me know size and PDGA #, or club # if you want that instead.

[sillybizz]

Alright well I haven't heard anything since the last event and I was wondering if there is going to be a discussion about what we can add or change for next years team golf? I think it would be best with the last season fresh in our minds, if not an open discussion forum than at the very least an email to the captains?

[JR Stengele]

Alright well I haven't heard anything since the last event and I was wondering if there is going to be a discussion about what we can add or change for next years team golf? I think it would be best with the last season fresh in our minds, if not an open discussion forum than at the very least an email to the captains?

elitist! Think your cool cause you're a captain? :dancing: Well atleast I can dance cool!

[LakeStevensBA]

I think you should add more teams next year....
I think you should make sure I am a captain of one..
I think you should play more north end courses....
I think you should have a travelling trophy...
I think you should buy me more beer....

[sillybizz]

I think you should add more teams next year....
I think you should make sure I am a captain of one..
I think you should play more north end courses....
I think you should have a travelling trophy...
I think you should buy me more beer....

Agreed.

[olydiscgolf]

I think you should add more teams next year....
I think you should make sure I am a captain of one..
I think you should play more north end courses....
I think you should have a travelling trophy...
I think you should buy me more beer....

Done.
Done.
Done.
Done.
I didn't know I bought you any beer?!

Which courses up north would you like to see played? Is there enough courses/interest to make a North End division and a Southside division? Is there enough interest to help with the stats and the administrative side of the league?

[Yardbird]

As for the expansion for TDG, I think two divisions would work (north and south). Have six (7 person) teams in each division with playoffs for the top four teams in each division, then combine both divisions for the final event at Sea-Tac.

For this to work, TDG would need some support from the north end for stats and general organizing for the northern division.

[Toby Puttzinski]

All good ideas IMO... I especially like the idea of two divisions... There could be teams from the North representing Terrace, Lakewood, Seatac, NAD, Arlington/Lake Stevens, North Park and White River?.... and teams from the South representing Oly, Steilly, Mason County, Riverside, Dailiwood?, Steilly #2?-- if you put White River in the South Division that would make an even 6 in each, with what I have hypothesized... it would seem that expanding to 8 teams per division could work out as well.

My vote would be to have the final at Steily again, minus the par 72 marathon round...:wink2:


I would like to volunteer to be a captain:pirate: for the North Park White Buffaloes, if league expansion allows for there to be a team NP.

[Tim]

I don't see why teams have to be course specific. I like the way OR does it where it's just groups of friends with no particular course affiliation. Having a North division definitely would make it easier for me to participate again.

I agree with the finals at Steilly, minus the par 72. I'd much rather play the pro 27 layout if we wanted to have an "epic" final day.

[TYVEK]

to me the par 72 course was the highlight of the whole season! it was the best course in my opinion and was a ton of fun to play. im a fatty and it didnt have that much effect on me, so you skinny guys must be really out of shape or something.

[Tim]

I was glad I got to play it after hearing about it for so many years, but I just didn't think it was great in terms of the actual holes. Some of them were good, but some were kind of hokey. The Pro 27 remains my favorite layout at Steilly as I think it showcases the best of the holes out there.

[sillybizz]

I don't see why teams have to be course specific. I like the way OR does it where it's just groups of friends with no particular course affiliation. Having a North division definitely would make it easier for me to participate again.

I agree with the finals at Steilly, minus the par 72. I'd much rather play the pro 27 layout if we wanted to have an "epic" final day.

I actually like the way we do it, it builds more of a rivalry between courses. I vote for the finals be somewhere other than Steili only because it should be like the Super Bowl and have a different location every year.

There could be teams from the North representing Terrace, Lakewood, Seatac, NAD, Arlington/Lake Stevens, North Park and White River?

I'm not sure why NAD would be in the North division. I would think it would be like this for 8 teams:

Terrace, Lakewood, Seatac, Arlington or Lake Stevens, North Park, Juel, Sedro Wooley, Mossy Roc or Cornwall

For South I would say:

Olympia, Steili, NAD, Dalaiwood, Shelton, Riverside, White River, Lake Fenwick

[olydiscgolf]

All good ideas IMO... I especially like the idea of two divisions... There could be teams from the North representing Terrace, Lakewood, Seatac, NAD, Arlington/Lake Stevens, North Park and White River?.... and teams from the South representing Oly, Steilly, Mason County, Riverside, Dailiwood?, Steilly #2?-- if you put White River in the South Division that would make an even 6 in each, with what I have hypothesized... it would seem that expanding to 8 teams per division could work out as well.

My vote would be to have the final at Steily again, minus the par 72 marathon round...:wink2:


I would like to volunteer to be a captain:pirate: for the North Park White Buffaloes, if league expansion allows for there to be a team NP.

I would like to expand the league to 12 teams this year. Two divisions of 6 teams playing on separate courses. I think 36 TDG players on the course is as many as we should try and fit without closing the courses down. Thinking back to the events at NAD and White River and even Steilly for that matter, there were quite a few casual golfers on the course when we were playing. I don't think it's fair to the locals to take over their course without compensating their club or their parks dept.

I would be open to teams forming on their own without course affiliation, IF each team could step up and claim a course to "prep" for the TDG event held there. This year it was up to the captains and local clubs to prep the course and stipulate course specifics.

The other side of that coin is that I like the "course team" rivalry that goes on.

[Tim]

Yeah, I guess part of my beef is that "course rivalry" is what's led to each course having a different club here in the Seattle area. Well, Terrace and NP are both supposed to be part of the Seattle DGC, but I think a good part of why efforts to revitalize the club failed was that there was a underlying attitude from some North Parkers that it was "just some Terrace guys trying to take over" (which for the record, is total BS). Not to mention, Team Terrace this year consisted of folks from all over, hardly any of which would be considered regulars there.

But I digress. I agree on the other points you made there, Chris. :cheers:

[The Ombudsman]

One reason I was on the Terrace team was because there was no Sea Tac team.
I volunteer to head the Sea Tac Slingers

[LakeStevensBA]

I volunteer to head the Sea Tac Slingers

I thought you were heading the Tall Chief team this year.....

[JR Stengele]

All good ideas IMO... I especially like the idea of two divisions... There could be teams from the North representing Terrace, Lakewood, Seatac, NAD, Arlington/Lake Stevens, North Park and White River?.... and teams from the South representing Oly, Steilly, Mason County, Riverside, Dailiwood?, Steilly #2?-- if you put White River in the South Division that would make an even 6 in each, with what I have hypothesized... it would seem that expanding to 8 teams per division could work out as well.

My vote would be to have the final at Steily again, minus the par 72 marathon round...:wink2:


I would like to volunteer to be a captain:pirate: for the North Park White Buffaloes, if league expansion allows for there to be a team NP.

I agree with the two divisions but sorry Toby, I don't think realistically that northpark could hold a team dg that size with all the crossing fairways and overall size. And for the finals, Steilly or SeaTac for sure. Somewhere neutral though would be nice.

[sillybizz]

Yeah, I guess part of my beef is that "course rivalry" is what's led to each course having a different club here in the Seattle area. Well, Terrace and NP are both supposed to be part of the Seattle DGC, but I think a good part of why efforts to revitalize the club failed was that there was a underlying attitude from some North Parkers that it was "just some Terrace guys trying to take over" (which for the record, is total BS).

The North Parkers are so paranoid from the amount of marijuana they smoke.

[mazza]

marijuana they smoke.

and you say this like its a bad thing.. i would rather the world be stoned then drunk:yay:

[sillybizz]

Thread drift! :)

[sillybizz]

Well if it's a North and a South Division and six teams each then I propose this for courses:

North: Terrace, Seatac, Lakewood, Arlington, Mossy Roc, Sedro Wooley

South: White River, Olympia, Steili, Dalaiwood, Shelton, Nad

[mazza]

Well if it's a North and a South Division and six teams each then I propose this for courses:

North: Terrace, Seatac, Lakewood, Arlington, Mossy Roc, Sedro Wooley

South: White River, Olympia, Steili, Dalaiwood, Shelton, Nad

maybe instead of shelton u could play river side

[sillybizz]

Yeah you could do that but one of the highlights for me this year was playing the tournament layout with baskets at Lake Isabella Park. Plus all of the guys from MCDG were all really friendly and I would want them all to come and play team golf again.

[olydiscgolf]

Yeah you could do that but one of the highlights for me this year was playing the tournament layout with baskets at Lake Isabella Park. Plus all of the guys from MCDG were all really friendly and I would want them all to come and play team golf again.

Yeah, Mason County is definetly going to have a team again next year. They are working on a new course that has a lot of potential to be great.

I like beating them almost as much as I like drinking with them!

[mazza]

Thread drift! :)

nope its still on target...just hit a speed bump:yay:

[SPIDER-DAN]

What happens when one course wants to have more than one team due to the overload of players compared to other courses. Im sure steilly could easily fill 4-5 teams if they wanted to......especially if we drop it from 9 players to 7.

I hope you all realize just how big this is going to be and how we may have to consider two tdg leagues compared to one. There are players out there that want to participate, but wont be able to due to favorable selection by the teams and thier captains. I would not like if i really wanted to play and found out that i was not selected for the team.....which is a true possibility.

Anyway.........see ya tomorrow at the yauger bomb!!!

[BigBubbBelly]

Hey are you going to limit it to 6 teams? What about us kats that like to throw up north? I know I can round up a team of Everett area guys that would be down to play. You could add two courses to the events, lake stevens and arlington. How would we go about this? If not how can I get on the Terrace Creek team? Who do I need to contact? I missed out on the fall winter league, Id love to play the spring summer league. Thanks for the info.
There will be 9 spots on each of 6 teams. The teams that will be represented will be: Terrace creek, White River, Steilly, Yauger, MCDG (Shelton), NAD Park.

Each team will need at least 6 members at each of 6 events. If you divide the number of events by the number of members of each team you will find you only need to be able to commit to 4 events to participate.

Stay tuned for the full disclosure of WA TEAM DISC GOLF rules. Its not quite ready yet, but I had a good meeting with Eric Lund tonight, and we're getting the details figured out.

If anybody has questions, please ask, Im happy to answer!

[BigBubbBelly]

Thats what Im saying. Can we get a team from the kats that play up north? You would have access to two more courses, Lake Stevens and Arlington to throw into the mix. I know of 8 or 9 guys that have already expressed interest in the idea. Dont exclude us cause your all afraid of the baskets up north. It would be great to give the guys that play up in the Everett area their own team and a chance for some of the guys that play down south to come up and play a couple of courses they might not think of playing. Its a win win situation. Who do we have to contact? When do we need to sign up? Let me know so we can get this rolling. Thanks for the info.

[JR Stengele]

Thats what Im saying. Can we get a team from the kats that play up north? You would have access to two more courses, Lake Stevens and Arlington to throw into the mix. I know of 8 or 9 guys that have already expressed interest in the idea. Dont exclude us cause your all afraid of the baskets up north. It would be great to give the guys that play up in the Everett area their own team and a chance for some of the guys that play down south to come up and play a couple of courses they might not think of playing. Its a win win situation. Who do we have to contact? When do we need to sign up? Let me know so we can get this rolling. Thanks for the info.

I believe they are talking about next winter, not a league during summer since that is when many of the other players play in tournaments. We are already considering a team for arlington/stevens, but I am not sure about both as stevens most likely could not hold that many players at once. Talk with BA as I think he might be the captain if a team is added in that area. Also, you could talk with Thomas and ask him to keep you in the loop. As for now, it is just talk but it WILL happen (as far as adding teams up north).

[BigBubbBelly]

Sweet. Good to know. I know summer is the busy tournament time of the year, couldnt we schedule the league days on days that there are no tournys? It might be a way to get some other people playing league play. Those that dont do the tourny scene as much. Might be fun. Just a thought. Thanks for the info.

[sillybizz]

Somehow I don't think Chris wants to do a summer league. I'm more interested in winter leagues to give me a reason to still play disc golf and we can play when the least amount of casuals are on a course. Can you imagine trying to play a team golf event on a beautiful weekend at Terrace Creek? That place gets so crowded It would take all day.

[GettinBetter]

I thought it was about as good as a start as one could ask for.

I also think that team golf should take small steps each year and not bite off more than you can chew.

That being said I think we should add maybe two more teams, and make minor simple adjustments.

[par3golf]

team NAD would like to keep old and add 1 more if room

[sillybizz]

I've heard rumors that team golf will be coming again very soon and haven't gotten an email or heard anything about it in a while and I am wondering what's going on? I vote for Saturdays this year or I can't Captain a team. :( My sister wants to Captain her own team as well. So how many teams? Players? Courses?

[Sausage Fingers]

I also think that team golf should take small steps each year and not bite off more than you can chew.

Smart thoughts right here.:trophy:

One year I thought that it would be cool if we all had lunch at the course, so I brought out all of the cooking stuff every week and made food for everyone. The next year I almost didn't run the league it was so much extra work with the food (it also made it tough for me to play in the morning round if I was supposed to cook food for everyone to eat during lunch).:headbang:
Luckily somebody told me to just drop the cooking and concentrate on the main operations of the league and here we are, still going strong.:pirate:

[Yardbird]

I'll second the vote for moving Team golf to Saturdays.

I have heard rumors that the amount of matches and the timeline for WA Team golf will be similar to last year. The only real changes will be some added teams and a few rule changes.

I guess we will have to wait until the official post for the 2011 WA Team golf.

[SPIDER-DAN]

There have been alot of people who wanted to start more teams up north to have as many teams as there was on the south end. Maybe we should divide team disc golf to have a south league and a north league and have the winners of both meet at a neutral location for the title....sort of like the nfl's american and national leagues. Just a thought..........it may cut down on alot of travel.

[JR Stengele]

There have been alot of people who wanted to start more teams up north to have as many teams as there was on the south end. Maybe we should divide team disc golf to have a south league and a north league and have the winners of both meet at a neutral location for the title....sort of like the nfl's american and national leagues. Just a thought..........it may cut down on alot of travel.

Seconded:cheers:

[TYVEK]

i like having the team golf on sundays. a much better day for golf.

[LakeStevensBA]

If we do a north and south league, Lake Stevens (Team Hold My Beer While I Kiss Your Girlfriend) would be proud to represent.

I vote for Saturdays. Sundays are for a day of worship....and football..

[Tim]

I still think teams shouldn't be necessarily tied to one course, i.e. what them Oregon kids do. Just let a group of friends team up and come up with their own name--I like your idea there, BA, even if it is a mouthful. Apparently, a name means a lot to some people when it's related to their home course (and they can be butthurt if not on said team), an opinion Gilby patiently endured this past weekend.

I like the North/South idea.

I like Sundays...football=empty courses.

[JR Stengele]

If we do a north and south league, Lake Stevens (Team Hold My Beer While I Kiss Your Girlfriend) would be proud to represent.

I vote for Saturdays. Sundays are for a day of worship....and football..

Saturdays for those of us who actually work early on Mondays.:)

[Tim]

I work early on Mondays. How late are you expecting to play golf?

[JR Stengele]

I work early on Mondays. How late are you expecting to play golf?

Midnight. Maybe later. No really, last year was tough with all the distance we had to drive. However, if we split up the divisions, sundays won't be nearly as bad.:wink2:

[Tim]

Ahh, yeah, agreed. I suppose I should say IF there's a north league, THEN I'd prefer Sundays. If there's no north league, I likely won't be signing up this time around. Nothing against Chris and crew, it's just more than I could comfortably commit to.