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blang11
October 22nd, 2009, 07:13 PM
I just went to pick up a brand new Innova Pro Boss at Next Adventure today. Epic distance! The disc feels great in my hand with the added grip of Pro plastic, and it is noticeably more domey than even the Feldberg edition Boss. Two things helped contribute to greater distance: Added glide, and a good high speed turn (right off the shelf). All of that, combined with a strong fade at the end of its flight, was enough to make me quite the happy discer. For all you big arms out there, go get one. It's fun!

Bruce
October 22nd, 2009, 07:20 PM
Yeah, I've been throwing one for a couple months. They are fun as long as you aren't throwing into a head wind, they get a bitch...touchy. They do crush however.

blang11
October 22nd, 2009, 07:27 PM
Oh Bruce, yeah I remember you were throwing yours during the Hab/Rec and you were just launching. It was quite a sight behold. I'm sure they are going to beat in pretty quick and eventually get more touchy. There should be a caution sticker on them, "Warning: only throw when stupid distance is needed!"

DexterHawk
October 22nd, 2009, 07:48 PM
For clarification this is not an r pro boss but a regular pro... Got mine at the USDGC and yeah, it's rad

Bruce
October 22nd, 2009, 07:58 PM
Yeah DexterHawk, I know what you are talking about. I got this one from Hagerty, it is one of the Vibram open fundraiser disc, when they did a run of 100. I had bought one then as well, but lost it on the 3rd throw, in the river at McIver, whoops?

Ode
October 29th, 2009, 09:11 AM
i was hoping these would be a little more stable than they are. definitely isnt going to become my big d driver, but i will keep one in the bag for shots that need a lot of left to right and really long.

Scott
October 29th, 2009, 09:44 AM
I'm guessing more stable than the R-Pro, but less stable than the Champion. Does that sound about right?

GettinBetter
October 29th, 2009, 07:03 PM
Ohh Ode, stop complaining. Do you have a Champ Boss? I dont remember seeing one last Saturday.

Ode
October 30th, 2009, 12:57 PM
i do have champ bosses, but in not a huge fan of champ plastic, too slick especially now that its the rainy season.

ive put a eco destroyer and eco xcal back in the bag and the pro boss is sitting on the sidelines.

i havent thrown an r-pro more than a couple times but i would say that the pro is most likely between the star and the r-pro, with the lighter weight pro closest to the r-pro. but what do i know, right?

barbikes
October 30th, 2009, 03:30 PM
I've got about 12 drives on my new Pro Boss yellow 167. I've been comparing it to a new R-pro blue 164. My findings after only those few throws are that the Pro plastic is just a bit more overstable than an equivalent weight R-pro would be. Stability is WAY closer to R-pro than Champ or Star. That extra bit of stability over R-pro does help into the wind! Distance is the same as R-pro. So far I'm liking it!

Ol' Bob
October 30th, 2009, 09:41 PM
Anyone know how low the Pro weights go?

erp
October 30th, 2009, 09:53 PM
I haven't seen them below 167 - the one I have is pretty overstable compared to the R-Pros even of lower weights that have seen a tree.

I'm looking forward to getting a pro or champion katana and hope the flight and durability beyond R-Gel...

Anyone know how low the Pro weights go?

Ol' Bob
October 30th, 2009, 10:19 PM
I want 150 DX Bosses. Gimme gimme gimme!

REDFIVE
October 31st, 2009, 12:06 PM
I want 150 DX Bosses. Gimme gimme gimme!

Innova is not planning any DX boss runs at this time. Sorry bob.

captain jack
October 31st, 2009, 04:08 PM
Innova is not planning any DX boss runs at this time. Sorry bob.

But, Innova still makes stock 150 Class Dx Destroyers, which I'm sure you already have, and Hero Disc still has some 150 Class Dx Xcalibers
http://www.herodiscusa.com/japan-open-dx-xcaliber.html, so , do you really need 150 Dx Boss's ?

Ol' Bob
October 31st, 2009, 09:26 PM
Well, I guess it's marketing genius to make them in R-Pro, sell them for ten smackers, and have them last about one hard hit. Crap! I've worn out four of them and I want some seven buck DX.

runnaman
October 31st, 2009, 10:00 PM
Just got a Pro Boss today, I can't wait to get to know it. I threw it once and it was awesome how smooth it felt.

Scott
November 2nd, 2009, 08:16 AM
Anyone know how low the Pro weights go?

According to Disc Golf Center (http://www.discgolfcenter.com/main_displayProduct.php?p=438&PPQT1=27), they go down to 167.

They have R-Pro Bosses down to 141. That light enough for you?

jevon
November 2nd, 2009, 10:21 AM
According to Disc Golf Center (http://www.discgolfcenter.com/main_displayProduct.php?p=438&PPQT1=27), they go down to 167.

They have R-Pro Bosses down to 141. That light enough for you?

Actually, all that means is that is what they currently have in stock... :nahnah:

...and Bob doesn't like throwing his money away on R-Pro. :rolleyes2:

The ultra long range driver Boss will be released in the Pro plastic, speed=13, glide=5, turn (HSS) =-1 and fade (LSS) =3. Available in weights between 165 and 175gram.

Ol' Bob
November 2nd, 2009, 10:22 AM
Like I said, I've worn out four of them. My lightest was 143. True to Innova, it was (when new) the most stable of all of them (along with two 150s and a 147). The 147 stayed good for the longest of them. I'm figuring 150 DXs will start out a little more stable and stay in my limited wheelhouse longest. I'm basing that on my 150 class DX Wraiths. It's just that I can get a bit farther with the light Bosses. I just need them to be a little less like rentals.

REDFIVE
November 5th, 2009, 11:21 PM
So how does this pro plastic hold up. I haven't thrown it since it came out because it was crap. I almost picked one up today but could bring myself to buy a disc that would only last 3 rounds.

Parks
November 5th, 2009, 11:25 PM
Distance drivers in Pro plastic are allergic to trees, but seem to last decently long if you use them only on wide open bomber holes.

I can put Champ and Star out almost as far as Pro, but they last a lot longer.

I'm guessing the same holds true with Bosses.

Matt B.
November 6th, 2009, 07:41 AM
So how does this pro plastic hold up. I haven't thrown it since it came out because it was crap. I almost picked one up today but could bring myself to buy a disc that would only last 3 rounds.

Are you thinking about R-Pro? Because Pro plastic has been around for years and years and lasts a lot longer than 3 rounds.

Tim
November 6th, 2009, 09:15 AM
Are you thinking about R-Pro? Because Pro plastic has been around for years and years and lasts a lot longer than 3 rounds.

As many as 5 or 6! :D Sorry, I'm just skeptical of any wide rimmed drivers in soft plastic. I know people love their Pro Destroyers, but they were also the biggest gripe in durability until the R-Pro came out. And before the Pro Destroyers, it was the Pro Wraiths....

Matt B.
November 6th, 2009, 09:34 AM
As many as 5 or 6! :D Sorry, I'm just skeptical of any wide rimmed drivers in soft plastic. I know people love their Pro Destroyers, but they were also the biggest gripe in durability until the R-Pro came out. And before the Pro Destroyers, it was the Pro Wraiths....

Well stop throwing them into trees! I haven't had durability problems with pro destroyers or wraiths due to normal ground strikes or ocasional tree hits. If you are throwing them often in dense woods then that's a problem, mainly because it's the wrong disc, imo. The R-Pro on the other hand really can potentially only last three rounds of normal play.

REDFIVE
November 6th, 2009, 10:12 AM
The newest version of this pro started with aviars about 4 years ago. I had a teebird that I loved for a week and then it started to dive to the ground uncontrolably. I have been sour toward the plastic since then but might give it a chance in open areas.

erp
November 6th, 2009, 10:15 AM
I had an R-Pro boss die on my 3rd drive with it - plowed into the sign by the creek at timber head on and split the rim.

They're fine as long as you hit absolutely nothing with them, including the ground and the bottom of your bag when you're reaching for your midrange.

I've already gotten 4 rounds out of the Pro Boss I bought, but it's much more overstable than the R-Pro out of the box...

Well stop throwing them into trees! I haven't had durability problems with pro destroyers or wraiths due to normal ground strikes or ocasional tree hits. If you are throwing them often in dense woods then that's a problem, mainly because it's the wrong disc, imo. The R-Pro on the other hand really can potentially only last three rounds of normal play.