What disc/plastic for rollers?

[hyzer_sosa]

I've been working on adding a roller to my arsenal of drives and not had much luck. That was untill today. At Timber this morning I had some success rolling my beat in Elite-X XL with fairly consistent results.
I've been thinking about it throughout the day that brought up the following questions; Is there a plastic, Discraft or otherwise, that is best suited for rollers? And, like a Roc or Buzzz is to midrange shots, is there a hands down go-to disc for rollers? :chinscratch:

[sillybizz]

I don't know for plastic wise, but for rollers you can't go wrong with a Roadrunner, you don't really even need to try and roll it, you just throw it like normal and it turns, especially a lighter or beat up one.

[LegoRules]

I don't know for plastic wise, but for rollers you can't go wrong with a Roadrunner, you don't really even need to try and roll it, you just throw it like normal and it turns, especially a lighter or beat up one.

Yup I agree with the roadrunner, but I also have really good success with my sidewinder too.

Cindy :)

[Nathan]

I've been working on adding a roller to my arsenal of drives and not had much luck. That was untill today. At Timber this morning I had some success rolling my beat in Elite-X XL with fairly consistent results.
I've been thinking about it throughout the day that brought up the following questions; Is there a plastic, Discraft or otherwise, that is best suited for rollers? And, like a Roc or Buzzz is to midrange shots, is there a hands down go-to disc for rollers? :chinscratch:

The harder plastics will roll better. I love my Z-XL for my very rare roller. Plastics such as FLX, Pro D, DX are bad for rolling.

[Bullseye]

I've been working on adding a roller to my arsenal of drives and not had much luck. That was untill today. At Timber this morning I had some success rolling my beat in Elite-X XL with fairly consistent results.
I've been thinking about it throughout the day that brought up the following questions; Is there a plastic, Discraft or otherwise, that is best suited for rollers? And, like a Roc or Buzzz is to midrange shots, is there a hands down go-to disc for rollers? :chinscratch:

I love the Elite-X XL for short rollers, but if you need more length I would try Sidewinders/Roadrunners and for even more than that you'll need something really overstable, but beat up enough that you can flip it.

[barbikes]

Rollers are great. Just about every game I play there is at least one shot that is going to work best with a roller. I'm better at thumber or tomahawk style rollers than backhand. I'm not using a roller for max distance usually. For overhand distance throws you want something overstable at low speeds. I like the champ Boss for max distance tomahawks or thumbers. If it's an overhand finesse shot then I'm going for the Condor (and no, it's not OOP, you just gotta know where to find them). The large O.D. and 200 gram weight really help to make that big old controllable garbage can lid of a disc roll thru the grass! On roller discs I always prefer the max weight discs. For backhand rollers I like the X plastic Xpress for best distance and the Eclipse for more finesse.

[Will of Doom]

I really like beat up dx leopards for a roller

[cefire]

I usually use a Star Teerex or a KC Aviar (the rolling distance record holder!) for long range and a roadrunner for shorter more controllable rollers or sky rollers.

If you are just learning, I'd suggest the stingray (or Stiff big bead Aviar) as a great learning disc for the roller. Good control and distance for both discs although I find the Aviar will hold a line much longer.

[Brody Cannon]

I snap a champion monarch over for my rollers. I can throw cut rollers and sky rollers with it equally well

[hyzer_sosa]

I usually use a Star Teerex or a KC Aviar (the rolling distance record holder!) for long range and a roadrunner for shorter more controllable rollers or sky rollers.

If you are just learning, I'd suggest the stingray (or Stiff big bead Aviar) as a great learning disc for the roller. Good control and distance for both discs although I find the Aviar will hold a line much longer.

Star Teerex was a disc I didn't have much luck with. Maybe I'll give it another try.

Great feedback. Thanks everyone!

[Dr. Zaius]

in my experience, you can roll nearly everything. find a nice flat to flippy disc and work on hitting the right angle on the ground.

[jevon]

in my experience, you can roll nearly everything. find a nice flat to flippy disc and work on hitting the right angle on the ground.

I completely agree. My first roller was a Z-XS. Now that I no longer carry that disc, except on occasion, I just roll with my TeeBirds. Beat DX or Champion, doesn't matter for distance, just need slightly different angles when hitting the ground. I'll be working in a proto Pro TeeBird this winter and I'm curious how it will roll. I've also had success with a Pro Wraith for longer rollers. I haven't had success with a Sidewinder for rolling but haven't given it many chances...

Oh, and read this: throwing rollers (http://www.discgolfreview.com/resources/articles/throwingrollers.shtml)

[olydiscgolf]

Anytime somebody asks me which disc to throw, I always say the same thing....VALKYRIE! It really is IMO the "most" versatile disc. Brand new Star Valks for helix distance drives. I throw super beat Star Valks for rollers. I release with lots of hyzer and snap it over. Even when I first started golfing, my first and most effective roller disc was a 150g Valkyrie.

[sillybizz]

Anytime somebody asks me which disc to throw, I always say the same thing....VALKYRIE! It really is IMO the "most" versatile disc. Brand new Star Valks for helix distance drives. I throw super beat Star Valks for rollers. I release with lots of hyzer and snap it over. Even when I first started golfing, my first and most effective roller disc was a 150g Valkyrie.

That's true I have seen many guys with 150 Valkyrie's throwing rollers to success.

[TYVEK]

i use a Avenger SS for my mid distance rollers and a beat in rogue for my long distance rollers.

for information purposes, ken climo uses his tee birds and wraiths for his rollers and he can deffinately roll!

[ChUcK]

I roll a Lat64 Vision, as if anybody cares about those crazy Swedes and their whole "best primo plastic in the world" business.

[cefire]

Ditto on the valks and wraiths...

Valk would be a GREAT starter roller disc!

[TYVEK]

I roll a Lat64 Vision, as if anybody cares about those crazy Swedes and their whole "best primo plastic in the world" business.

i care! but is for another thread.

[ChUcK]

i care! but is for another thread.

Negative, ghost rider. The Vision rolls with the best of them. I hit someone's ankles walking across the Geezer fairway the other day...

...I was playing at Seatac.

[olydiscgolf]

Negative, ghost rider. The Vision rolls with the best of them. I hit someone's ankles walking across the Geezer fairway the other day...

...I was playing at Seatac.

Now THAT is impressive!!!

[Tim]

"the best plastic" is always something that's debatable, but I can vouch that the Vision is a good roller disc.

I've been throwing rollers more regularly for the past few months, pretty much all because I tried rolling my 150 Valk on a whim one day and it worked great. I've been trying more rollers where possible, with varying degrees of success.

[Ol' Bob]

So, how come this thread wasn't called, "The Roller Derby?"

[Scott]

So, how come this thread wasn't called, "The Roller Derby?"

Because Mitch hasn't chimed in yet.

[Tim]

So, how come this thread wasn't called, "The Roller Derby?"

Bob, you just inspired a new idea for a dye. Thanks for that. :cheers:

[Bluedisc]

Mid weight (blue) champion Monarch. Period. It will do whatever you tell it to do...:wink2:

[Ol' Bob]

You reminded me of this girl I knew in Cincinnati.

[Bluedisc]

You reminded me of this girl I knew in Cincinnati.
:laughing:

[Scott]

What about forehand rollers? Does it make a difference?

I see to different philosophies when throwing a roller: Use something very flippy and allow the disc to flip into the desired position and use something very stable and land the disc directly in the desired rolling position. I haven't found much sucess with the understable route. I've had some luck with stable discs - there was one magical night in a practice field where I was consistently busting out 400' rollers with Pro Destroyers - but my accuracy is highly lacking and they generally don't go much farther than my air shots (300' or so).

[Adam Schneider]

What about forehand rollers? Does it make a difference?
You generally need something more overstable for a forehand roller... same as you do for a forehand air-shot.

[RonTheWhip]

Back in the great days of Oakway (Super 18 layout) I was throwing my longest rollers (550-600), which is mostly a product of the great ground. I either threw star sidewinders on a hyzer flip or a 12X Wraith on an anhyzer. If anyone remembers hole 14 I had three deuces on that hole, all with rollers.

These days I roll with a few different discs. The Sparkle Rogue is very long and fast on the ground. A regluar Z Surge is great for longer cut rolls, and lately I've been bombing the Z Avenger SS for understable hyzer flip rollers.

Stiff plastic seems to roll better, and I prefer discs with a slight propensity to turn for pure distance. ESP Meteor is a great mid range roller btw...

[RonTheWhip]

You generally need something more overstable for a forehand roller... same as you do for a forehand air-shot.

Not true, in either situation.

[Adam Schneider]

Not true, in either situation.
Maybe not for you, but most of us have horrible off-axis torque on our forehand shots and we need to compensate with beefier discs. If you have a smooth release, it's not an issue.

[Ol' Bob]

Off-axis torque? I don't throw a forehand, or a roller, but that might could be an old social issue for me.