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whslaxplayer11
August 24th, 2009, 11:29 AM
hey so i am trying to get my girlfriend into disc golf, and i was wondering what molds and weights are the best for beginners and women/players who dont have big arms...
I know that technique plays a huge part in getting accuracy and distance, but i was wondering about disc selection for her....
If it helps, she usually throws about 150ft with my 168 sidewinder, she can get it to flip and then usually fades back a little bit at the end.
so if anyone has any advice onto weather i should get her to throw a:
150 kinda stable disc such as a teebird valk or eagle?
maybe mid 160's flippy disc like sidewinder or roadrunner?
somewhere in between?
i only know innova, so thats why all my examples are innova lol
Adam Schneider
August 24th, 2009, 11:35 AM
ANY beginner, male or female, will be well-served by lighter-weight fairway drivers. The 150g Leopard is a great disc, and will still be useful even once she's moved up in ability. For something a little more overstable, a 150g or 160-165g Teebird or Eagle might be useful.
Sidewinder and Roadrunner are "distance drivers"; hold off on those for now.
NWDiscer
August 24th, 2009, 11:36 AM
hey so i am trying to get my girlfriend into disc golf, and i was wondering what molds and weights are the best for beginners and women/players who dont have big arms...
I know that technique plays a huge part in getting accuracy and distance, but i was wondering about disc selection for her....
If it helps, she usually throws about 150ft with my 168 sidewinder, she can get it to flip and then usually fades back a little bit at the end.
so if anyone has any advice onto weather i should get her to throw a:
150 kinda stable disc such as a teebird valk or eagle?
maybe mid 160's flippy disc like sidewinder or roadrunner?
somewhere in between?
i only know innova, so thats why all my examples are innova lol
go down to the 150's for a couple of discs like a cheetah,gazelle, even see if you can find a little bit lighter sidewinder, toss in a 150 G roc and she's good to go.
Scott
August 24th, 2009, 11:39 AM
Agreed. Light midranges and fairway drivers are good for ANY beginner.
kyle95
August 24th, 2009, 11:45 AM
I would suggest that she try a Avenger SS. That is what i suggest to most people just getting into the game. It's stability is .5 and will fly straight with not as much power.
snap7times
August 24th, 2009, 12:00 PM
Get the 145-155g discs - leopard, gazelle, teebird, Teebird-L... See how she throws with those... You can see a forum on what women have in their bags on another part of this forum, forgot where... ;)
Ms Thing
August 24th, 2009, 12:07 PM
I would suggest that she try a Avenger SS. That is what i suggest to most people just getting into the game. It's stability is .5 and will fly straight with not as much power.
But at what weight? The Avenger SS only goes down to 161 and that is only Pro-D plastic. Discraft is really hard for a beginner with a weak arm to throw, they make 150 class and then jump up to mid 160s.
You are going to find mostly Innova for her to throw. A lepord is a good choice (the winner of the womans rec division at the Clash last weekend threw only her 150 lepord and putter). I love my 150 Pro Teebird-L and a 150 or maybe slightly heaver Shark is a good start as well. If you can find it a Gazelle is also a good choice, they run from the 140s on up, including the mid 150s.
Ol' Bob
August 24th, 2009, 01:26 PM
A light Stingray worked for me when I was starting out. Then I moved to light DX Valks. I still throw girls' discs. But at least I'm throwing the ones that some the girls who out-drive me throw.
snap7times
August 24th, 2009, 02:07 PM
hey hey hey, there is no gender stamped on these discs, just throw what works period, regardless of make and weight... That's a major problem with the Masters division at Deaf tournaments, they all tired and hurt after one round and when I mention dropping down weights, they are like, oh no not women's weights, pfflltt, they sound like women, whining that they hurt and their distance sucks... ;) just kidding about the last part...
Ol' Bob
August 24th, 2009, 02:09 PM
I don't mind hangin' with the goils, talkin' 'bout our 150s.
Scott
August 24th, 2009, 02:09 PM
[QUOTE=snap7times;31911]hey hey hey, there is no gender stamped on these discs, just throw what works period, regardless of make and weight... /QUOTE]
Actually, I'm pretty sure my fuchia 146g DX Valkyrie is a female disc. Her name is Betty. :kissflowers:
Ol' Bob
August 24th, 2009, 02:10 PM
I suppose we could call them "Japanese discs."
Iowa
August 24th, 2009, 02:25 PM
Hawk. They only go as low as 160 but they are still a good disc.
snap7times
August 24th, 2009, 04:15 PM
[QUOTE=snap7times;31911]hey hey hey, there is no gender stamped on these discs, just throw what works period, regardless of make and weight... /QUOTE]
Actually, I'm pretty sure my fuchia 146g DX Valkyrie is a female disc. Her name is Betty. :kissflowers:
You must be single... no woman would want a peice of plastic having more importance than the woman herself... But since you brought it up, I don't mind tossing Betty just to see what it is like to throw a woman; gotta get it out of my system... :jumpspin:
emmarose
August 24th, 2009, 04:27 PM
I've been throwing 150 Valks as my fairway drivers (star) for the last, sheesh, 4 years, I guess. I also always keep 2-3 Eclipses (the lightest they go is like 164, but they're super flippy so that's okay) in my bag in various stages of worked in, from brand new to pretty beat. They are easy to learn on and easy to control. Eclipses are discraft.
Good luck, it's great to have more women getting into this sport!
olydiscgolf
August 24th, 2009, 05:37 PM
I recomend a Valkyrie to ANY new player regardles of gender. Its one of the most versatile disc's I know of, and its an easy disc to learn.
SPIDER-DAN
August 24th, 2009, 09:08 PM
Absolutely.......the valkyrie is still one of the best. It does depend on how she throws. Does she throw with hyzer and tries to flip the disc up or does she throw with a little anhyzer tilt and lets the disc come back. That will make all the difference in what disc to pick. I throw alot of light discs like the valkyrie, sidewinder, monarch, etc........but i throw it will some hyzer and let it flip up........it just feels more comfortable for me. Everyone releases differently.
Ol' Bob
August 25th, 2009, 10:19 AM
Good points, Spidey. If I can get a beginner just throwing level I feel it's an accomplishment. I see so many beginners, especially women, arriving here with something way too overstable. Stuff that few beginners could fix with all the anhyzer in the world. We can't seem to keep the beat up light Valks in the loaner box. I wish Innova would make a Valkyrie-B 150.
Adam Schneider
August 25th, 2009, 10:22 AM
I wish Innova would make a Valkyrie-B 150.
-B?
TreeLove
August 25th, 2009, 11:42 AM
-B = beat
LegoRules
August 25th, 2009, 12:19 PM
-B 150.
Below 150?
Cindy :)
Ol' Bob
August 25th, 2009, 02:56 PM
Beat -- Below -- Beginner.
ptld2001
September 8th, 2009, 04:32 PM
I'd definitely plan to get DX plastic for a beginner. I read an article about the flight characteristics of different plastics, and they say that DX has the longest glide, and is the least overstable. Both good characteristics for a beginner. I wasn't sure I believed them, until I looked at the discs I throw best with. All are DXs, and the ones I like the least are the champions, which are more overstable, faster, and have less glide. Generally more difficult for a beginner to throw. Note that I was comparing the same disc in different plastics.
erp
September 8th, 2009, 04:37 PM
The downside is that the DX discs change, so a go-to driver that say, meets a tree when a beginner gets ahold of a shot, is going to change in flight characteristics almost immediately which makes it difficult to isolate what is happening due to your throwing form and what is happening due to the relatively rapidly changing plastic.
That said, the beat 150 R-Pro Boss that SillyBiz traded me has been a favorite of two beginners I recently took out for their first rounds...both ladies got it out past 100' and enjoyed the experience!
I'd definitely plan to get DX plastic for a beginner. I read an article about the flight characteristics of different plastics, and they say that DX has the longest glide, and is the least overstable. Both good characteristics for a beginner. I wasn't sure I believed them, until I looked at the discs I throw best with. All are DXs, and the ones I like the least are the champions, which are more overstable, faster, and have less glide. Generally more difficult for a beginner to throw. Note that I was comparing the same disc in different plastics.
Ol' Bob
September 8th, 2009, 05:10 PM
I think that DX gets surface scratches that act like grease in the air, what is called, "boundary layer turbulence" (they know all about that at "the Skunk Works" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_works)). I love that lightweight DX. Just very hard to get the one that beats in to where it works just right for the long term. The ones that go flippy are the ones to hand down to the beginners. They have to come to terms with the fact that their throws will get better and they'll be changing favorite discs often for the first year or so.
tomw
September 9th, 2009, 06:15 AM
My wife Susie likes to throw a star Avenger as here long driver of choice. Elite X Stratus's for mid stable shots, and has recently started to use a R Pro Dart for mid range/approach.Champion or eliteZ plastic has never really appealed to her, she doesnt like the feel of the grip? All in the low to mid 160's:):o:)
Scott
September 9th, 2009, 07:19 AM
My wife Susie likes to throw a star Avenger as here long driver of choice. I don't think so. What is the comparable Discraft plastic? ESP?
zippyboy
September 9th, 2009, 07:25 AM
Yup. Or FLX.
TreeLove
September 9th, 2009, 11:33 AM
(FLX being a form of ESP, and all)
Sean Phillips
September 9th, 2009, 01:48 PM
The downside is that the DX discs change, so a go-to driver that say, meets a tree when a beginner gets ahold of a shot, is going to change in flight characteristics almost immediately which makes it difficult to isolate what is happening due to your throwing form and what is happening due to the relatively rapidly changing plastic.
I don't think this applies to beginners as much as one would think. Most beginners take a year or more to "dial in" their form. Plus most beginners can't throw hard enough to REALLY damage a DX disc. The beginners that I've taught can throw 10 drives that seem identical in their head but have 10 very different release angles, nose heights, snaps, and speeds.
This is all very relative to how much of a beginner the person is. I often consider myself a beginner. :headbang:
GettinBetter
September 9th, 2009, 01:57 PM
I think that you should get her a pretty beat up disc. A 150 roc is golden, maybe even lighter. You could buy one of those then run it over a couple times.
Scott
September 9th, 2009, 02:10 PM
I often consider myself a beginner. :headbang:
What does that make the rest of us?
:chinscratch:
MrsG
September 12th, 2009, 12:58 AM
I'm fairly new to disc golf and a female, this is what I am playing with:
Drivers: 2 Stratus, one in the low 160's/the other 150. A Stingray,150
Midrange: Kite and Putter: Rhyno
My husband's been playing for years so I got the pick of the litter. We literally have a closet half-full of discs and after trying most of them these are the ones that worked for me. I do have other discs in my bag but these are my go-to's at this point.
I think that weight is certainly a consideration. I read somewhere that women should try to stay under 165 in weight and that has been true for me. That being said... I bought a 150 Cheetah and it does not work for me at all. Feels too light to control at release. He bought me two Eclipses, a 150 and 160 something but they were only good discs for me for the first week or two.
My husband took me to a school field with all the discs we could carry and had me throw each one. I chose my discs by which ones were consistent. Even if they were consistently over or under. I did also go out and buy my favorites is bright colors so that I would not be faced with the embarassment of ever searching for my disc with all the "boys" watching.
Hope this helps. It would be nice to see more girls out there that are taking it seriously.
LegoRules
September 12th, 2009, 07:15 AM
Hope this helps. It would be nice to see more girls out there that are taking it seriously.
We are out there for sure. There are about 20 of us playing in a tournament in Eugene this weekend. Come to a Chick Flick, and you will see a bunch of us to. Next Chick Flick will be September 27th at Timber.
Cindy :)
emmarose
September 12th, 2009, 08:35 AM
I'm fairly new to disc golf and a female, this is what I am playing with:
Drivers: 2 Stratus, one in the low 160's/the other 150. A Stingray,150
Midrange: Kite and Putter: Rhyno
My husband's been playing for years so I got the pick of the litter. We literally have a closet half-full of discs and after trying most of them these are the ones that worked for me. I do have other discs in my bag but these are my go-to's at this point.
I think that weight is certainly a consideration. I read somewhere that women should try to stay under 165 in weight and that has been true for me. That being said... I bought a 150 Cheetah and it does not work for me at all. Feels too light to control at release. He bought me two Eclipses, a 150 and 160 something but they were only good discs for me for the first week or two.
My husband took me to a school field with all the discs we could carry and had me throw each one. I chose my discs by which ones were consistent. Even if they were consistently over or under. I did also go out and buy my favorites is bright colors so that I would not be faced with the embarassment of ever searching for my disc with all the "boys" watching.
Hope this helps. It would be nice to see more girls out there that are taking it seriously.
A 150 Eclipse? Where in the world did your husband find such a thing?! I would be very curious to get my hands on one...I have a feeling it might not work out for me...but just for fun...
peace threw disc golf,
emmarose
Ol' Bob
September 12th, 2009, 08:46 AM
With the number of women who can outdrive me, I have to say, that suggestion of a 150 Stingray is a great one. Lowell's wife put me onto that when I was first starting. She let me try hers and I immediately got my first birdie by throwing it twice, though that second shot was probably 130 feet. I did outgrow that Stingray and into the light Valks. I topped out with 150 DX Wraiths and R-Pro Bosses for my long drivers. There are lots of women who throw stuff too big for me. My only chance is to toss 'em straighter. Are there any DX Bosses out there yet?
ScottW
September 13th, 2009, 01:31 AM
I agree with everything that has been said about ladies throwing lighter weight discs and even DX or Pro D plastic. The downside to the light weight is what to do in the wind. My wife's bag is mostly light stuff but she does have some heavier and even max weight stuff that she throws when it gets really windy (i.e 175g STAR Starfire). She has found that some ladies do fine with light plastic but can't control it when it's too windy, so she busts out her heavy stuff which keeps her straight. She had a big come from behind win (8-10 shots back) a couple years ago in a tourney where the wind kicked up a lot. SHe sarted throwing her heavy stuff and was able to control it while all the girls who only threw light plastic were all over the place. Having something heavy in the bag for certain situations can definitely be helpful. She goes lighter weight when throwing backhand but heavier with forehand which she is more comfortable with and she has the real heavy/more over stable stuff for windier conditions.
emmarose
September 13th, 2009, 07:57 PM
I agree that you should have heavier stuff to play with in the wind...and I also believe that you can adjust your throw for a headwind...but I really think a key to my game has been getting to know the discs in my bag. I don't have a huge selection or wide variety...I think right now I have a grand total of nine discs in my bag, but I use each disc in every round I play and I know what each one does. I've stuck with the valkyrie because as I've experimented with the faster discs (wraith, destroyer, boss) I've felt completely out of my element and I can't actually get my fingers to curve all the way under the wider rims for a decent grip...small hands...I have two star valks 150, one dx 160 and one pro 165 for the wind.
SPIDER-DAN
September 15th, 2009, 09:27 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you...........the valkyrie in my opinion will never go away or be totally replaced. I carry three in my bag: 164 jk pro, 169 jk pro, 158 ce. Getting some sidewinders would not be a bad idea either........my 166 star sidewinder throws further than any other disc in my bag by 30 feet. I dont throw too many 170+ discs unless it was from someone else and was beat up a little.
Just a reminder.......i throw will a little hyzer and let my disc flip and stand up on thier own. So it does depend on how you release your disc before taking any advice.
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