too soon ?

[Flatroc]

Greetings disc golf enthusiasts. :biggrin2:
First off I want to thank Andrew for starting the NWS up again.
I think his vision will happen.
Kudos also to the folks who are keeping the ORS afloat.
Would it be too soon to start planning next years schedule for the Oregon Series, NWS and some of the other popular misc. types including non PDGA sanctioned gigs?
I currently have the SOWS XIV schedule completed with two of them possibly being PDGA sanctioned.
There has been talk about the UDA hosting the GNO, if this is going to be more than talk I'd like to get the putt going asap.
Are you ready to grab a gear Magilla? :whistler:
Looking forward to all of your replies. :cheers:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Greetings disc golf enthusiasts. :biggrin2:
First off I want to thank Andrew for starting the NWS up again.
I think his vision will happen.
Kudos also to the folks who are keeping the ORS afloat.
Would it be too soon to start planning next years schedule for the Oregon Series, NWS and some of the other popular misc. types including non PDGA sanctioned gigs?
I currently have the SOWS XIV schedule completed with two of them possibly being PDGA sanctioned.
There has been talk about the UDA hosting the GNO, if this is going to be more than talk I'd like to get the putt going asap.
Are you ready to grab a gear Magilla? :whistler:
Looking forward to all of your replies. :cheers:

I don't think is too soon at all. Stumptown TD's are already talking next seasons BSF and RCO. I'd be excited as all heck to see the UDA take on the GNO. Tonight Stumptown has on the agenda the topic of our Winter Series including the Membership Drive Tournament on December 5.

Lets gitt'r going! :cheers:

Bob

[Flash]

The sooner the better but their needs to be some acceptable amount of change given that we are dealing with a national schedule with the Beaver State Fling NT and possible Rose City Open if it makes the A-Tier ranks this next year.

I like the idea of Oregon Disc Golf groups or clubs working with the PDGA coordinator to setup a bullet proof schedule for competitive events in Oregon whether they are PDGA sanctioned or not.

I also am very excited to have clubs run the events in their local areas. Club run events lighten the load on individual TD's or remote hosting clubs and allow the clubs to earn funds to help support the local disc golf scene and sustain their courses.

I think 2010 will be a great disc golf year in Oregon so get involved and be a part of your local club!

[TreeLove]

A centralized event calendar is helpful when trying to coordinate event scheduling. I suggest all planned event dates be submitted to www.nwdiscgolf.info. Then TDs can refer to the calendar there when scheduling. TDs may email their submissions to treelove@nwdiscgolf.info.

[Dave Pittman]

It's not too soon at all Yose.

The DGCA lost out on using Timber Linn this year as the park was reserved by another big group before we tried to reserve it. Well not in 2010 as we have booked Bryant and Timber Linn parks for the 2010 Calapooia Classic. It will be held on August 14th & 15th 2010 using Bryant, Timber Linn and Waterloo. :rockon:
It is has been confirmed by our State Coordinator. :chug:

[LJ Jubner]

Not saying the 2010 calendar should be secret but It should be (at least for awhile). A password only forum here would be fine

It should only be available to series coordinators and TD's from this year in the NW. Then the dates can be worked out in Private, made public at the same time and available early enough (late 09) for planning the upcoming year.

By having this in private each club/TD can share info at club meetings. Solicit feedback and maybe increase participation.

Already There is an issue Aug 15-16 is JWO here.

Now The Tac is a lot less overbooked the the Albany area venues so that's something that can be worked out.

I have also heard of some non one dayers proposed
Maybe one weekend each month could be designated as Local Only.

Andrew you should look at all the NW events from this year as possible future series participants. Regional evaluation process to help decide. Again here open to all who played Maybe password posted at event only


The other thing is the Finincial drain two National Events has on the NW. It would be nice if there was some sort of rotation between states and even between venues in each state.

You know Share the burden, increase the support.

[TreeLove]

Already There is an issue Aug 15-16 is JWO here.

Is that a calendar event entry submission? Aug 15-16, 2010 is a Sunday and a Monday...

???

[TreeLove]

I currently have the SOWS XIV schedule completed

May I have it please? I would like to add it to the calendar...

[Magilla]

Greetings disc golf enthusiasts. :biggrin2:
First off I want to thank Andrew for starting the NWS up again.
I think his vision will happen.
Kudos also to the folks who are keeping the ORS afloat.
Would it be too soon to start planning next years schedule for the Oregon Series, NWS and some of the other popular misc. types including non PDGA sanctioned gigs?
I currently have the SOWS XIV schedule completed with two of them possibly being PDGA sanctioned.
There has been talk about the UDA hosting the GNO, if this is going to be more than talk I'd like to get the putt going asap.
Are you ready to grab a gear Magilla? :whistler:
Looking forward to all of your replies. :cheers:

:cheers:

Its NEVER too early....BUT until the PDGA does the NT & Major schedules AND releases them to the State Coordinator (Me) NOTHING can be finalized, since those events take priority.

I have asked that ALL event TD's (sanctioned or not) send me dates of events so that I could track ALL events in the region to avoid conflicts where possible.
ALL TD's of PDGA events MUST submit requested dates to your state coordinator to be approved for sanctioning. This is a PDGA requirement.
Only BSF locally is dealt with on a higher level....:wink2:

The schedule is only going to get tighter next season with "some" events going to the Pro & Am seperate weekend format. This will allow for some HUGE AM fields and give higher level AMs an opportunity to step up now & then to "test the waters"
:whistler:

:cheers:

[Flatroc]

Most of the 'more popular' events have been held on or around the same date/weekend for years which should make certain parts easier.

[snap7times]

May 8-9, 2010 will be a PDGA sanctioned fundraiser for Camp Taloali and the Jerry Miller Disc Golf Course as well. Will fill out paper work and submit soon. This will be 2 courses. Reserving the campground from May 6-10 for those who want to come early and leave late and enjoy the other things the Camp has to offer. I'll list the details on my own forum thread... But I pray that no one else conflicts with this weekend because I would like 144-152 players there! :)

[LJ Jubner]

Mag's Treeloves calendar is also a great resource

[Magilla]

Mag's Treeloves calendar is also a great resource

I have always supported "Treelove's Calendar"...and use it myself.

But as I said....NOTHING is definate UNTIL, I approve the date, as far as PDGA events go. Once I get them and set the date I usually forward them to Treelove.

:cheers:

[Magilla]

May 8-9, 2010 will be a PDGA sanctioned fundraiser for Camp Taloali and the Jerry Miller Disc Golf Course as well. Will fill out paper work and submit soon. This will be 2 courses. Reserving the campground from May 6-10 for those who want to come early and leave late and enjoy the other things the Camp has to offer. I'll list the details on my own forum thread... But I pray that no one else conflicts with this weekend because I would like 144-152 players there! :)

That time frame is awfully close to the Masters Cup - BSF swing....
Id hold off on finalizing those dates until we hear more from the PDGA.....

The PDGA will not even accept your event form until they release the 2010 form.....which will not be until Oct at earliest.
Plan away BUT do not put all your eggs into one basket just yet.........

:cheers:

[Magilla]

It's not too soon at all Yose.

The DGCA lost out on using Timber Linn this year as the park was reserved by another big group before we tried to reserve it. Well not in 2010 as we have booked Bryant and Timber Linn parks for the 2010 Calapooia Classic. It will be held on August 14th & 15th 2010 using Bryant, Timber Linn and Waterloo. :rockon:
It is has been confirmed by our State Coordinator. :chug:

Calapooia HAS been "penciled in" for those dates.....:whistler:

That time frame is VERY close to World's traditionally......This year was the earliest that PRO World's has been in my memory. I can't seem to find the exact dates for next years worlds any where.
A conflict there would be the only issue.......

:cheers:

[Flash]

Calapooia HAS been "penciled in" for those dates.....:whistler:

That time frame is VERY close to World's traditionally......This year was the earliest that PRO World's has been in my memory. I can't seem to find the exact dates for next years worlds any where.
A conflict there would be the only issue.......

:cheers:

The Worlds dates are unsure, Chuck K. was making a comment about it on the PDGA website but indicated that it was not secured yet.

[Matt B.]

Calapooia HAS been "penciled in" for those dates.....:whistler:

That time frame is VERY close to World's traditionally......This year was the earliest that PRO World's has been in my memory. I can't seem to find the exact dates for next years worlds any where.
A conflict there would be the only issue.......

:cheers:

Not much of an issue, is it? Plenty of sanctioned tournaments happening during World's right?

[snap7times]

That time frame is awfully close to the Masters Cup - BSF swing....
Id hold off on finalizing those dates until we hear more from the PDGA.....

The PDGA will not even accept your event form until they release the 2010 form.....which will not be until Oct at earliest.
Plan away BUT do not put all your eggs into one basket just yet.........

:cheers:

The dates are not in stone and yes I am paying attention to the NT schedule since I will attend at least 3 of them, 2 of them being Masters Cup and BSF of course. Once that schedule is released then the date of my fundraiser tournament will be released less than a week after the NT schedule.

[Magilla]

Not much of an issue, is it? Plenty of sanctioned tournaments happening during World's right?

:headbang:

IMO, IF you schedule an event during world's....
1. You dont give a crap about your regions best & most dedicated players..
2. Your an IDIOT
3. Refer to #2

:cheers:

:chinscratch:
I suppose a 1 day C-Tier wouldn't be that big a deal, BUT anything that has been established AND has regional draw SHOULD NOT be scheduled to conflict with World's....especially IF it is involved with a Points Series (which we would hope to have up an running again next year)

:cheers:

[LJ Jubner]

Mags my comment was aimed more towards contacts for events already in place.

[Dave Pittman]

Calapooia HAS been "penciled in" for those dates.....:whistler:

That time frame is VERY close to World's traditionally......This year was the earliest that PRO World's has been in my memory. I can't seem to find the exact dates for next years worlds any where.
A conflict there would be the only issue.......

:cheers:

Sorry about jumping the 'gun' Mike. :blush:

I'll talk to Scott about reserving the parks for the previous weekend as well so we have some flexibility in the schedule. He's the one in 'tune' with the City of Albany parks department. I'm the overzealous messenger... :rolleyes2:

[Magilla]

Mags my comment was aimed more towards contacts for events already in place.

I wasnt "aiming" my post at anyone in particular......:wink2:

Just a general statement, using my own personal experience with the woes of scheduling.
Ive seen, heard AND experienced the joys of trying to make everyone happy with a schedule that has the least number of conflicts.
Im tired of "tooting" my own horn about the "experience" I have in this area.
All I ask is that ALL TD's, not just sanctioned events, coordinate thru me when scheduling events. I have the "Big Picture" calendar and can "help" events get into a time slot that would most benefit the TD & the players.
Of course, I have NO AUTHORITY over non-PDGA events and those TD's can still do what ever they want. All I can do is "ask" that they check with me.

But WHY would they want to have conflict?
Wouldnt they want MORE players to be able to attend?
Wouldnt they want to see the BEST competition possible take place?

IMO, If they dont care if the best players are able to attend then it's about the $, NOT the sport.

Back on the World's conflict scheduling...

An AM Only during PRO World's or vise versa wouldnt be an issue.........

:cheers:

[Magilla]

Sorry about jumping the 'gun' Mike. :blush:

I'll talk to Scott about reserving the parks for the previous weekend as well so we have some flexibility in the schedule. He's the one in 'tune' with the City of Albany parks department. I'm the overzealous messenger... :rolleyes2:

No.........Do Not get me wrong......:bricks:


I am NOT trying to keep TD's from starting to schedule dates for next year.
I just want to be very up front with WHAT needs to happen first before ANYTHING can be set in stone.
I wish that I was able to deal with it this early in the year. THAT would be awesome.
I still want to start a "tentative" schedule that can easily be worked off of when I am able to "approve" dates.

:cheers:

[Flash]

:headbang:

IMO, IF you schedule an event during world's....
1. You dont give a crap about your regions best & most dedicated players..
2. Your an IDIOT
3. Refer to #2

:cheers:

:chinscratch:
I suppose a 1 day C-Tier wouldn't be that big a deal, BUT anything that has been established AND has regional draw SHOULD NOT be scheduled to conflict with World's....especially IF it is involved with a Points Series (which we would hope to have up an running again next year)

:cheers:

Hey we have a points series up and running this year it just is a little different. Here is a link to the points thread Oregon Series Points (http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2235)

[Magilla]

Hey we have a points series up and running this year it just is a little different. Here is a link to the points thread Oregon Series Points (http://www.nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2235)

:o OK, you got me..........

You know what I meant.....:p

By the way..Thanks for doing that....:bowing:

:cheers:

[snap7times]

and i hope it continues next year with everyone's constant contributions! Maybe we can add some tournaments to an overall points series? You know what I'm thinking....

["Over the Hill" Bob]

No.........Do Not get me wrong......:bricks:


I am NOT trying to keep TD's from starting to schedule dates for next year.
I just want to be very up front with WHAT needs to happen first before ANYTHING can be set in stone.
I wish that I was able to deal with it this early in the year. THAT would be awesome.
I still want to start a "tentative" schedule that can easily be worked off of when I am able to "approve" dates.

:cheers:

Ok, I'll say this once and only once, don't ever ask me to repeat myself, it just hurts too much! :waaah:

I agree totally with Mike here! :cheers: There I SAID it! :laughing:

Bob

[snap7times]

oh man.... that hurt my eyes... that was brutal to read...

[Flatroc]

I wasnt "aiming" my post at anyone in particular......:wink2:

Just a general statement, using my own personal experience with the woes of scheduling.
Ive seen, heard AND experienced the joys of trying to make everyone happy with a schedule that has the least number of conflicts.
Im tired of "tooting" my own horn about the "experience" I have in this area.
All I ask is that ALL TD's, not just sanctioned events, coordinate thru me when scheduling events. I have the "Big Picture" calendar and can "help" events get into a time slot that would most benefit the TD & the players.
Of course, I have NO AUTHORITY over non-PDGA events and those TD's can still do what ever they want. All I can do is "ask" that they check with me.

But WHY would they want to have conflict?
Wouldnt they want MORE players to be able to attend?
Wouldnt they want to see the BEST competition possible take place?

IMO, If they dont care if the best players are able to attend then it's about the $, NOT the sport.

Back on the World's conflict scheduling...

An AM Only during PRO World's or vise versa wouldnt be an issue.........

:cheers:

Here is a confirmed event and dates that a few folks might like to see on the "Big Picture" calendar.
Roseburg Lions Club Whistlers Bend Doubles Shootout
(shoutout for the Shootout) :yay:
June 4-5-6, 2010
Whistlers Bend DGC
Roseburg, (not Glide) Oregon
non PDGA sanctioned

Mike,
Can we all see your "BP" calendar? :biggrin2:
Also, who is they?

[Flatroc]

I still want to start a "tentative" schedule that can easily be worked off of when I am able to "approve" dates.:cheers:


yose wrote:
Have you done this big feller? :chinscratch:
If so can you post it? :wink2:
Or is still too soon? :whistler:

[snap7times]

I'm hoping there is an off week between the masters cup and BSF, then that would be a perfect weekend to host my tournament and provide dirt cheap lodging for those traveling up early, plus they get to play a pdga tournament while they at it.... at least that is what i'm hoping for...

[Flash]

I'm hoping there is an off week between the masters cup and BSF, then that would be a perfect weekend to host my tournament and provide dirt cheap lodging for those traveling up early, plus they get to play a pdga tournament while they at it.... at least that is what i'm hoping for...

Really what would it be worth to you?

The Beaver State Fling is slated for the Memorial Day Weekend but it is not firm yet. John Duesler has contacted Jeff Mittl and myself to discuss the date and we had no objections, actually we prefer and request that weekend. It was rumored that since the Japan open is this year The master Cup will be 2 weeks before the BSF and the Japan Open 2 weeks after the BSF. Now that would be a sweet west coast swing.

Throw in a couple of events into the mix and it could be a fun start to the summer!

[smobro]

Really what would it be worth to you?

The Beaver State Fling is slated for the Memorial Day Weekend but it is not firm yet. John Duesler has contacted Jeff Mittl and myself to discuss the date and we had no objections, actually we prefer and request that weekend. It was rumored that since the Japan open is this year The master Cup will be 2 weeks before the BSF and the Japan Open 2 weeks after the BSF. Now that would be a sweet west coast swing.

Throw in a couple of events into the mix and it could be a fun start to the summer!

Does that mean you and Mittl are officially going to TD the Fling again? If so, I am officially volunteering to help (and play). Cuz you guys freaking Killed it this year and I can safely say, that I am already starting to Jones for the 2010 Fling:rockon: