Maybe too early to ask but...

[DexterHawk]

Who is moving up (or down) to a new division next year? Why? Why not?

Let's hear boys...
Who are you calling out?
Who has your knees shaking?
Which division is going to be the giant next year?

Me... I'm a pro now so there is nowhere to go and aside from a few annoyingly pouty golfers I'm really loving it... The golf is good... the pace is good... the people are good... and you can't call yourself a champion unless you are playing with the best...

[Matt B.]

Well I'm a movin' on up.....
to the top (half in hopefully an event or two)
to the deluxe division
with those guys....

And then, since I'll be 40 next year, if I get my hat absolutely handed to me all year long I will switch to Masters in 2010 and try to take down Hagerty nad Magilla

[Sam]

Staying put one more year. Perhaps AM worlds next summer.
Then AM worlds in 2010... Masters' divison for me, thanks. :dancing:

[Dr. Zaius]

WOX was my last tourney as an am. kinda sad really. i'm going to miss coming home with a stack of plastic after every tourney. i finished relatively strong though. after a brutal hangover saturday morning and a +3 at willamette, i managed to shoot -6 and -2 at adair and a somewhat strong finish in the final 9.
pro field here i come. :cheerleader:

[Sam]

Aw, Will... you can spend the cash you win on plastic and still go home with a stack...

See you eventually... :seeya:

[Dr. Zaius]

you can run, sam, but you can't hide. :merlin:

your cubs on the other hand... :slapface:

[DanZ]

I won't be moving up any time soon. I have had my ass handed to me one to many times in MA1. And I am still trophy less in Advanced with a rating of 934. My goal is win Pro Worlds 2011 in Oregon.

[Sam]

you can run, sam, but you can't hide. :merlin:

your cubs on the other hand... :slapface:

Brother, please... It's Turner that's the Cubs' fan. It's my Dodgers that are handing them their hats - in Chicago. :biggrin2::cheers:

[larsonjeff]

I think I'm retiring for 2 years.. then back to intermediate.

[Scott]

I think I'm retiring for 2 years.. then back to intermediate.

I'm going to spend the next two years lobbying the PDGA to create a No-Breeze rule in AM2 to prevent that from happening.

Either that, or I could just spend the next two years actually improving and be out of AM2 by then. :laughing:

[larsonjeff]

I'm going to spend the next two years lobbying the PDGA to create a No-Breeze rule in AM2 to prevent that from happening.

Either that, or I could just spend the next two years actually improving and be out of AM2 by then. :laughing:

I'm spending the next 2 years retro-fitting my garage to manufacture new Breezes with the Breeze molds I just bought from Discraft. :whistler:

[snap7times]

I'm dropping down to MA3 next year...

[smobro]

I'm dropping down to MA3 next year...
Because all of the participants in this division at the most recent event schooled many of the MA2 players, my guess is that there will be a new interest in participating in MA3.
While we appreciate your enthusiasm about dropping DOWN to MA3, we will be reviewing applications for the MA3 division and a person's entrance to the division will be based on a stict set of criteria that we reserve the right to change anytime and at will. One of the main criteria will be the following : Article A: At no time will any applicant be eligible to play MA3 if they have EVER been given the opportunity to play MA3 but passed on it to play outside of their rating and got their tails handed to them by the players who were playing according to their appropriate ratings. OR, if that applicant has EVER publicly on any forum stated that they will be playing up to the next division because they are too skilled to play MA3 but their rating doesn't reflect their obvious talent. again, please submit your application, cross your fingers, and hope you will be allowed to play in MA3.

Oh yeah, really there is only one rule, You have to be an incurable smart ass with a strong sense of humor, and just looking to have some fun while trying to throw plastic stuff. Please know I am just kidding and look forward to seeing this division prosper as it should be the incubator for MA2 and MA1 divisions.

I was talking with Jay Wood yesterday and he said that the MA3 division in a tournament he played this summer was totally packed! That is where the growth of the sport will come from.

[Brody Cannon]

Speaking of Jay Wood... He needs to step up to advanced soon! 55 and 55 at Hab/ Rec through the rain?!?! That's crazy good for an intermediate player in those conditions!

[Scott]

One of the main criteria will be the following : Article A: At no time will any applicant be eligible to play MA3 if they have EVER been given the opportunity to play MA3 but passed on it to play outside of their rating and got their tails handed to them by the players who were playing according to their appropriate ratings. OR, if that applicant has EVER publicly on any forum stated that they will be playing up to the next division because they are too skilled to play MA3 but their rating doesn't reflect their obvious talent.

Also known as the Darr provision.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

I'm going to spend the next two years lobbying the PDGA to create a No-Breeze rule in AM2 to prevent that from happening.

Either that, or I could just spend the next two years actually improving and be out of AM2 by then. :laughing:

You've got to spend a year playing MA3 before you can move UP to MA2, which only leaves you a year to get out of MA2. :whistler: Good luck with that! :cheers:

Bob :biggrin2:

[Trozzle!!!]

Oh yeah, really there is only one rule, You have to be an incurable smart ass with a strong sense of humor, and just looking to have some fun while trying to throw plastic stuff


To add to this, according to our final round out there, you have to be able to tell some good fart jokes, or deal with the occasional passing of gas while on the tee pad. You also have to deal with the fact that I may out drive you sometimes, or nail a huge 100+ ft birdie putt ( hole 4 at Willamete) :biggrin2:

[Darr]

Without quoting all of these last posts let me just say...

Enjoy MA3 I will be TRULY bagging intermediate next year.
:cop::cop::cop: :laughing::laughing::laughing:

[Scott]

Without quoting all of these last posts let me just say...

Enjoy MA3 I will be TRULY bagging intermediate next year.
:cop::cop::cop: :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Fighting for last cash is NOT sandbagging. :nono:

[Scott]

You've got to spend a year playing MA3 before you can move UP to MA2, which only leaves you a year to get out of MA2. :whistler: Good luck with that! :cheers:

Bob :biggrin2:
Heck, by that time your rating might finally move you up from MA4 to MA3. :shocked:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Heck, by that time your rating might finally move you up from MA4 to MA3. :shocked:

:shooting::shooting::shooting::shooting::shooting: :shooting::explode:

Bob

[Scott]

:shooting::shooting::shooting::shooting::shooting: :shooting::explode:

Bob

Is that all you got?

[smobro]

Is that all you got?


CAT FIGHT, CAT FIGHT, CAT FIGHT:nahnah:

[Scott]

CAT FIGHT, CAT FIGHT, CAT FIGHT:nahnah:


Stay out of this, Beyotch!

[smobro]

Stay out of this, Beyotch!

Oh it's on now!

[Trozzle!!!]

Without quoting all of these last posts let me just say...

Enjoy MA3 I will be TRULY bagging intermediate next year.
:cop::cop::cop: :laughing::laughing::laughing:

unless you make many improvements before next year, you wont be sandbagging MA2. you tied the winner of the MA3 division at WOX, and finished about mid field for MA2. How is this sandbagging????

I am not saying $hit about my rounds, obvisously you beat me at GNO, and WOX, but you have to at least be able to beat the winner of the MA3 division before you start talking $hit :whistler:

[Darr]

unless you make many improvements before next year, you wont be sandbagging MA2. you tied the winner of the MA3 division at WOX, and finished about mid field for MA2. How is this sandbagging????
Will should've been playing INT, how did you finish again WS Slung?

I am not saying $hit about my rounds, obvisously you beat me at GNO, and WOX, but you have to at least be able to beat the winner of the MA3 division before you start talking $hit :whistler:
Troy, throw a 900 rated round before you get all :posting:
I have made the scrip in INT 8 out of 12 Oregon Series I've played.
I also finally cracked the top ten (8th) at GNO this year.
If you could comprehend :posting::chug: maybe you would see I was posting a reply to the thread not talking $hit to you.

[Trozzle!!!]

Will should've been playing INT, how did you finish again WS Slung?

Yes he should have, considering how us locals know how he can play. but in his first PDGA event ever and having no rating at all, he was in his right division. I myself finished exactly where I should have. 3rd place. ahead of Bob due to our ratings and behind 2 players who are obviously rated higher than me. Its exactly where I expected to finish for the WOX.

Troy, throw a 900 rated round before you get all
I have made the scrip in INT 8 out of 12 Oregon Series I've played.
I also finally cracked the top ten (8th) at GNO this year.
If you could comprehend maybe you would see I was posting a reply to the thread not talking $hit to you.

I have never thrown a 900 rated round. I am not talking crap cause of that. So you got scrip in 8 out of 12 ORS events? so what? Good job doing what you did this year. all I am saying is that in no way is that sandbagging the INT field. as far as i can tell, scrip pays out to almost the top 50% of INT at ORS events. you play decent, you get scrip. getting scrip doesnt make you a bagger. If your rating next year, and you placing high in ALL events, makes you a Bagger in '09, I give you props for sure. but for now you are talking $hit about something I am not seeing from you.

And, I know you were talking about the thread and not me. I may be MA3, but I am not :slapface:

[Sean Phillips]

Can I play MA3 too? I wanna join the cool crowd.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Can I play MA3 too? I wanna join the cool crowd.

Sean, any time you want to play MA3 you are more than welcome. :cheers:I can show you a thing or two or three about which trees to hit to jack your drive in just the right direction to go OB. :waaah:All the trash talking aside, I'd love to see the division have some serious consideration next season. A lot of pressure is taken off just knowing you are playing with players closer to your own skill level. :)You really play to win and have fun at the same time. :trophy:I won't diss on anybody playing a division above their rating however. There are many reasons for doing so. Everybody just needs to play where they feel comfortable and enjoy themselves.

Bob

[Scott]

It sounds to me like Will was playing in the right place. It's a moot point, however. After the next ratings come out he should be ~907, and not eligible to play MA3.

[Magilla]

It seems funny that at first there was complaining about people NOT signing up for AM3, But then there is complaining about WHO ended up winning??

:headbang::headbang:
:laughing:

It brings up the issue of WHERE a non-member should be allowed to play.
NEXT year that problem will go away, with a new "membership" plan that Cris Belliger proposed to the PDGA at the last summit meeting.

ALL players will become "members" by paying the "temp fee".
They will be given a number AND have ratings tracked but this info WILL NOT be posted unless the player is an "Active" member (pays yearly dues)
ALL this info will be avail. to the TD so that Non-members can be tracked better AND placed in the divisions that they are allowed to play in.

This is a good trend as MOST orgs have a Membership list AND an "Active" membership list. By giving EVERYBODY a number it will increase the rosters of the PDGA membership, which in turn looks better when going for corperate sponsorships.

:rockon:

[Trozzle!!!]

Im not complaining at all about who won MA3. He beat me fairly. From playing with him at our local courses, I knew he shoul have been in MA2, but it was his first PDGA event and on courses he has never played before. He whooped on us, but once he gets his PDGA membership and a rating, he will most likely not be eligible anymore for MA3.

[Scott]

Im not complaining at all about who won MA3. He beat me fairly. From playing with him at our local courses, I knew he shoul have been in MA2, but it was his first PDGA event and on courses he has never played before. He whooped on us, but once he gets his PDGA membership and a rating, he will most likely not be eligible anymore for MA3.

I contend that Will was playing right where he belonged: At the top of MA3.
As I understand, Kent played him pretty close. The only reason he beat up on you is because you are technically a MA4 player, playing up. (Ratings based, and I admit - just barely).

[Trozzle!!!]

yeah technically I am an MA4 rated player, an yeah he did beat up on me and Bob pretty good. after the first round I was within 5 strokes, no biggie, I had a chance to comeback. The 2nd round wasnt pretty after somehow twisting my ankle right before the round. it was my planting foot, so I was screwed for that round and my chances shot. 1 night, 3 Vicodins, and many beers later, I picked up 9 strokes on my previous round, so overall I feel good with my weekend.

[DexterHawk]

And that is the most important part...
Frankly in the last year I've learned to care way less about how everyone else is doing and just try to play my best.

How many times have we all fallen into this trap... oh man there is some guy on my card who is lighting me up... so I make some really stupid "aggressive" plays to try to catch up... three more bogies and I drop three cards because I was trying to play someone else's round and ignoring my own.

Barry Shultz's advise... practice until your average is better then everyone else's best... I'm not there yet so I don't expect to win... Sure there are those that need the ego massage of winning or "competeing" (didn't we all pay the same entry?)... but they are baggers and if you understand the origin of the term sandbagger you will see that really they are just slowing themselves down. Divisions are good because it helps us to play with people who are about equal to us... But if you want to win stop worrying about who is and who is not playing in your division and try to throw fewer shots on the golf course!