View Full Version : Gazelle replacement?
DevanTheDude
July 29th, 2009, 12:58 PM
Since they've discontinued my favorite workhorse disc,:headbang: I was curious if anyone has any good replacement suggestions?
I've heard the Cyclone is pretty similar, but I'm not sure what plastic to try it out in...
RIP Gazelle....
snap7times
July 29th, 2009, 01:00 PM
why give up the gazelle, there are plenty of them around, i just picked up a champ gazelle for my fiance, she likes it...
Sam
July 29th, 2009, 01:00 PM
They still make DX Gazelles, I think. The rest of those Gazelles are crap, though, so if you send all of your KC Pro Gazelles directly to me, I will make sure that they are properly disposed of by throwing them straight from the tee directly into the basket. :whistler:
Tim
July 29th, 2009, 01:24 PM
DX Gazelles are no longer made. I won't go so far as to say the champ Gazelles are bad discs, but they don't fly like their DX counterparts. The Gazelle was a mold that was designed around the DX plastics available at the time, and when the same mold was used with premium plastic, the flight changed (way more overstable). I'd been hoping for years to see a Star Gazelle being made...and hopefully flying like I'd known the DX ones to fly, it never came about though.
The Cyclone has been roughly equivalent to the Gazelle, yeah, but Discraft's Pro D plastic kinda blows (or has in the past, at least), and the Z Cyclone didn't perform like the D or Tourney Pro versions from back in the day. They recently started making Cyclones in ESP, I got one, and it's money. Flies similar to a DX Gazelle, it's in durable plastic, and in regular production.
If you're sticking to Innova though, probably your best bet would be a Star or Champ Leopard...those also got a more stability with the introduction of premium plastics, though I haven't found either to be quite as sweet as a DX Gazelle, or ESP Cyclone, for that matter.
Sam
July 29th, 2009, 01:26 PM
Yes... please... any and all of those crappy KC Pro Gazelles. Go ahead and send them my way and I will dispose of them for you.
P.S. Don't tell Hagerty. :laughing:
snap7times
July 29th, 2009, 01:30 PM
Send them to sam? He just said he will "dispose" of them, how horrible! I, on the other hand, will give them each special attention, love, and make sure they are treated well...
Yes, the dx and champ versions of the gazelle are quite different but give it a shot if you liked the feel/grip contour. Wouldn't know anything about the cyclone..
Sam
July 29th, 2009, 01:47 PM
Dispose. Yeah... they go in my bag and then have to come right out because they get all of these crazy signatures on the back. Totally disposed of. :laughing:
Scott
July 29th, 2009, 01:51 PM
I would like to offer my services for KC Pro Gazelle disposal. :whistler:
Especially those yukky 10x ones. :biggrin2:
Sam
July 29th, 2009, 01:53 PM
What was that? It... it... sounded like a horn. And now I hear the thundering of hooves. Off... in the distance... I see... 1, 2, 3, 4.... 4 horsemen approaching.
Scott and I have found something we agree on. *faints*
Adam Schneider
July 29th, 2009, 01:56 PM
Heavier Champ Leopards are surprisingly overstable; one o' those might work.
Scott
July 29th, 2009, 02:10 PM
What was that? It... it... sounded like a horn. And now I hear the thundering of hooves. Off... in the distance... I see... 1, 2, 3, 4.... 4 horsemen approaching.
Scott and I have found something we agree on. *faints*
:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:
Loved it! I acutally laughed out loud.
Adam Schneider
July 29th, 2009, 02:13 PM
I see... 1, 2, 3, 4.... 4 horsemen approaching.
http://josh.st/blog/wp-content/2006/08/countvoncount.jpg
Tim
July 29th, 2009, 02:36 PM
Try a 9X, and then you'll wonder what all the fuss about 10X and 11X was ever about.
RonTheWhip
July 29th, 2009, 02:46 PM
11X KC PRO Gazelles are the bomb. I still have a few in stock (Sam and other interested parties can contact me if you'd like), and there really isn't a disc quite like it. The DX Gazelle is alright in my opnion, but different throwers have different preferences I suppose. I have yet to throw an ESP Cyclone extensively, they feel great but dont seem as stable as the PRO G to me. My advice is to upgrade to a star or champ teebird, slightly faster but if you find a flat top one, then the feel and flight is very similar. On the discraft side of things, the new Stalker is very similar in flight and feel. Very similar. Otherwise a Z reaper might work as well. Hope that helps :)
Brian
July 29th, 2009, 02:58 PM
I have lots of Gazelles, but never tried one.
Sam
July 29th, 2009, 02:59 PM
PM sent to Dion.
Brian, KC Pros or DX? I will take all of the KC Pros off of your hands for a reasonable price/trade.
Brian
July 29th, 2009, 03:05 PM
Looks like they are all DX, I have a couple KC pro teebirds though.
Sam
July 29th, 2009, 03:13 PM
No thanks. :)
You up for Pier tomorrow evening?
Brian
July 29th, 2009, 03:15 PM
I am there!
barbikes
July 29th, 2009, 03:24 PM
Since they've discontinued my favorite workhorse disc,:headbang: I was curious if anyone has any good replacement suggestions?
I've heard the Cyclone is pretty similar, but I'm not sure what plastic to try it out in...
RIP Gazelle....
I was bummed to hear that Innova's discontinued the DX Gazelle also. I've always preferred the "old mold" Cyclone to the Gazelle but I could throw either. One thing no one has brought up that you might do is to glom up a bunch of DX Gazelles while they are still available. There seem to currently be quite a few on Ebay. That's what I've done with the Cyclone. Although I haven't thrown an ESP Cyclone I've heard that they fly a lot like the DX Gazelle as Tim said. I don't care for the current Pro-D Cyclones flight.
Scott
July 29th, 2009, 03:29 PM
No thanks. :)
You up for Pier tomorrow evening?
This Thursday night thing looks like it is evolving into a habbit. What time?
Brian
July 29th, 2009, 03:29 PM
What is a gazelle supposed to do? Straight with big fade at the end?
Brian
July 29th, 2009, 03:30 PM
5:45 my brotha!
Tim
July 29th, 2009, 03:30 PM
The DX Gazelle is alright in my opnion, but different throwers have different preferences I suppose. I have yet to throw an ESP Cyclone extensively, they feel great but dont seem as stable as the PRO G to me.
Sounds like you like discs on the more stable side, Dion. Maybe if I had an arm like yours, I'd like my stuff more stable too. DX Gazelles, when broken in are some of the most workable discs I've found, good on just about any line. Throw a hyzer, they'll hold it, throw a hyzer flip, they'll do that too, throw flat and they'll usually retain enough LSS to get a nice S flight. The only real gripe I had with them was that they were DX and would all inevitably have to be replaced.
The ESP Cyclone isn't as stable as a KC Gizzle, that's true. I'd say they're slightly less HSS than a new DX GZ, and maybe about the same LSS.
Scott
July 29th, 2009, 03:30 PM
What is a gazelle supposed to do? Straight with big fade at the end?
According to Sam, it's supposed to go into the basket.
Very straight for me, but mine is fairly worn.
Sam
July 29th, 2009, 03:49 PM
What is a gazelle supposed to do? Straight with big fade at the end?
Not a big fade. I have always referred to it as my Long Roc though it does admittedly have SOME fade, of course.
snap7times
July 29th, 2009, 03:50 PM
According to Sam, it's supposed to go into the basket.
Very straight for me, but mine is fairly worn.
But we all know Sam is another Chubby, he tosses them from a near distance and wants signatures on his disc...
Anyways DION, Sam dosen't have good Discraft discs to trade you for, while I do... :whistler:
Sam
July 29th, 2009, 03:50 PM
According to Sam, it's supposed to go into the basket.
I have three Gazelle aces - including the big one at Calapooia a couple of years back. Money.
Wait... did I say these were good? They're total crap. Worst disc ever made. :laughing:
zippyboy
July 29th, 2009, 09:25 PM
I love my Stalker.
Did I mention that I LOVE my Stalker?
Best disc since the Avenger SS. :yay:
T-what?
July 30th, 2009, 12:29 AM
What I would use if I had to replace my 10x...
New Element-Evo hpp plastic:drool:
Beat Illusion-"S" plastic
jevon
July 30th, 2009, 04:32 PM
New Element-Evo hpp plastic:drool:
I've never thrown a Gazelle but the Element is a money disc. I have a clear one with a glow groove cut into it for night golf and after using it for two nights I am ready to get one for daytime use. It's like a Buzzz with extra glide.
Adam Schneider
July 30th, 2009, 04:34 PM
Isn't the Element more of a mid-range?
jevon
July 30th, 2009, 04:37 PM
Isn't the Element more of a mid-range?
Yes, but it can fly.
T-what?
July 30th, 2009, 07:27 PM
Isn't the Element more of a mid-range?
Yeah...So?
I throw the Element the same way I do with my Gazelle and I get a similar flight and about the same distances.
Timber
July 30th, 2009, 09:44 PM
No love for the Cheetah? To me that's the closest thing to a Gazelle in DX, in fact I prefer it.
captain jack
July 31st, 2009, 12:18 AM
According to Sam, it's supposed to go into the basket.
Very straight for me, but mine is fairly worn.
The Dx version has more dome to the flight plate, which makes it a little less stable, but has great glide and flies really straight, its easy to hunt baskets with this disc, I too have one "retired" with signatures.
The KC Pro is a flat top, so it's more stable, which is why it's preferred by those like Dion with the power arm, who just flip namby pamby molds like the Dx version.
The two fly completely different.
My suggestion is to buy ALL the Dx Gazelles you can find right away.
Sam
July 31st, 2009, 09:09 AM
Yes... and don't forget to send me all of those yucky KC Pros. They suck.
sillybizz
July 31st, 2009, 05:45 PM
I find the DX Cro very similar to the Gazelle but just a hair slower, the flight is quite similar, haven't tried a star or r-pro Cro yet.
Eric Olson
August 1st, 2009, 07:15 AM
For those who just need more gazelles, I have new DX Gazelles for sale/trade. And a couple slightly used 11x ones.
Magilla
August 1st, 2009, 09:31 AM
I have a clear one with a glow groove cut into it for night golf and after using it for two nights I am ready to get one for daytime use. It's like a Buzzz with extra glide.
But illegal as hell for ANY kind of competitive play.............
Real fun for casual play.....
:cheers:
sillybizz
August 1st, 2009, 04:49 PM
If you check out Chainbangerz(check the vendors list) they have seven left, I was there today.
jevon
August 3rd, 2009, 08:39 AM
I have a clear one with a glow groove cut into it for night golf and after using it for two nights I am ready to get one for daytime use.
But illegal as hell for ANY kind of competitive play.............
Real fun for casual play.....
:cheers:
THAT'S why I SAID that I was ready to get one for DAYTIME use... :pullhair::dancing::angry::rockon::kissflowers:
:cheers:
DevanTheDude
August 5th, 2009, 02:35 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions guys
According to Dave Dunipace the Gazelle is not OOP!!!
"The Gazelle has not been discontinued. We are simply low on stock until we can get it into production again. Next time we run it, we may try it in Star plastic as well.
Dave"
http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13711
:cheers:
Bullseye
August 5th, 2009, 02:56 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions guys
According to Dave Dunipace the Gazelle is not OOP!!!
"The Gazelle has not been discontinued. We are simply low on stock until we can get it into production again. Next time we run it, we may try it in Star plastic as well.
Dave"
http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13711
:cheers:
Repeat after me...
Champion Glow Gazelle!!!
Flash
August 5th, 2009, 03:03 PM
Repeat after me...
Champion Glow Gazelle!!!
BSF fundraiser next Year is what I am thinking!!!!
Bullseye
August 5th, 2009, 03:08 PM
BSF fundraiser next Year is what I am thinking!!!!
Let me put it this way...
Or Else!
NWDiscer
August 5th, 2009, 03:16 PM
Repeat after me...
Champion Glow Gazelle!!!
but does the same thing happen to the flight characteristics when it is done in CFR instead of good ol dx??????
:cheers:
Scott
August 5th, 2009, 03:18 PM
but does the same thing happen to the flight characteristics when it is done in CFR instead of good ol dx??????
:cheers:
I'm sure that, like most CFRs, it will be a complely different disc. Doesn't mean it will be bad, just different.
NWDiscer
August 5th, 2009, 03:20 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions guys
According to Dave Dunipace the Gazelle is not OOP!!!
"The Gazelle has not been discontinued. We are simply low on stock until we can get it into production again. Next time we run it, we may try it in Star plastic as well.
Dave"
http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13711
:cheers:
i can see Star holding true to the normal flight characteristics of DX but im not sure about the CFR it would be GREAT if they did...errrr i mean that would be terrible:slapface::whistler:
Bullseye
August 5th, 2009, 03:45 PM
i can see Star holding true to the normal flight characteristics of DX but im not sure about the CFR it would be GREAT if they did...errrr i mean that would be terrible:slapface::whistler:
I prefer the KC Pro plastic anyway. Champion Glow has very similar feel and wear characteristics.
Eric Olson
August 6th, 2009, 08:32 AM
I prefer the KC Pro plastic anyway. Champion Glow has very similar feel and wear characteristics.I was thinking a CFR Glow would be like the KC Pros also. That would be an awesome disc.
Tim
August 6th, 2009, 08:39 AM
I have a gummy champ CFR gazelle...have always been interested in how it flies, but have never thrown it because it's clear drab green. WTF were you thinking, Innova?
Ol' Bob
August 6th, 2009, 09:53 AM
WTF were you thinking, Innova?
Replacement sales?
TreeLove
August 6th, 2009, 11:35 AM
Not all disc golf courses are green.....
Ol' Bob
August 6th, 2009, 02:53 PM
Not all disc golf courses are green.....
We'll put the Marketing boys on that.
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