View Full Version : Whats in your playing bag?
General Scales
July 22nd, 2009, 06:29 AM
So I love to read what others use. I myself believe it's helpful in determining what kind of new discs I'm gonna splurge on. So here's what I got in my playing bag;
Drivers:
A 173 ESP Force (new)
A 171 ESP Force (beat)
A 174 ESP Crush (beat)
A 173 Elite Z Crush (new)
A 174 Elite Z SS Avenger (kinda new)
A 174 L.E. ESP Venom (kinda new)
A 174 Pro D Venom (beat beyond beat)
Midrange:
174 FLX ESP Buzzz (new)
174 Elite Z Wasp (kinda new)
176 Pro D Drone (beat)
178 FLX ESP Drone (NEW!!!) :bowing:
Putters:
171 FLX ESP Challenger (beat)
171 Soft APX (beat)
174 DGA Steady Ed Powerdrive (doesn't matter if it's new or beat, it's floppy)
I've got like 10 more discs but mostly Innova and friends don't let friends throw Innova :laughing: I still miss the Cro though:waaah:
JMan
July 22nd, 2009, 07:46 AM
167 Pro Line Rogue
168 Sparkle Z Rogue
168 Sparkle Z Force
177 CryZtal Buzzz
177 Pro D Buzzz
170 Pro D Buzzz
168 Pro D Rattler
174 Pro D Challenger
174 Soft Magnet
Scott
July 22nd, 2009, 07:58 AM
I've got like 10 more discs but mostly Innova and friends don't let friends throw Innova :laughing: I still miss the Cro though:waaah:
This statement baffles me. If you like the Cro, why don't you throw it? Because your friends tell you it's not cool? :headbang:
General Scales
July 22nd, 2009, 08:21 AM
This statement baffles me. If you like the Cro, why don't you throw it? Because your friends tell you it's not cool? :headbang:
Actually all my friends throw Innova or Gateway. The only reason I don't throw it is since I got the Buzzz and the Wasp I don't have any need for a fast straight, slightly overstable midrange. I do throw it when I goto the field to practice bombing and it's always in the trunk of the car just waiting for an opportunity to come out. Plus I just like the way Discraft Discs actually do what they say they are going to do. :jumpspin:
Other things not in the bag:
Super Stupid Soft Magic 174. Bought it, threw it, retired it. A disc for when I take people out that have never played.
Super Soft Wizard 174. Was my goto putter until I threw a Challenger. :cheerleader:
Two 174 Star Cro's. One super beat and one practically new.
Two 171 Star Wraiths. Bought them thinking I would throw them great. Instead they turnover and die a horrible death. :bricks:
Two 172 Champion Vikings. They stayed until I found the Flash. Unfortunate for me that I just threw my Flash into the water off of 11 @ Downriver thanks to a 20 mile an hour cross gust. :headbang:
180 Champion Coyote. Found the Buzzz, no need for it ever again.
Last but not least. 173 Aerobee Epic. Love this thing but I throw my Venom further then I throw the Epic for thumbers.
ChUcK
July 22nd, 2009, 08:28 AM
Bag du Jour:
175g Z Surge
169g Opto Striker
172g Opto Vision
168g Z Predator
175g ESP Buzzz
175g ESP Wasp
175g Z Glide
171g ESP Zone
???g Pro-D Challenger
Is this "what's in your bag" thread going to turn into a Discraft vs. Innova slugfest? I'd like to see some healthy Lat64 arguments thrown in.
Bullseye
July 22nd, 2009, 08:35 AM
Putters
JK Pro Aviar (175g, Well Used)
JK Pro Aviar (175g, New-ish)
Mid-Range
Champion Spider (172g, Utility Mid)
Champion Gator (175g, Overstable Mid)
Ontario Roc (180g, Understable Mid)
KC Pro Roc (180g, Stable Mid)
Elite XL (175g, Shorty Rollers)
Drivers
Pro Destroyer (175g, Well Used, Max-D Turn-over)
Pro Destroyer (175g, Medium, Max-D Straight)
Pro Destroyer (175g, New, Max-D Hyzer)
Champion Glow Destroyer (175g, New, Headwinds)
Champion Glow Teebird (175g, Well Used, Straight Control Drives)
Champion Glow Teebird (175g, New, Straight/Hyzer Control Drives)
Star Teerex (175g, Well Used, Long Straight Control Drives)
Star Max (175g, Well Used, Long Hyzers)
Champion Sidewinder (170g, Well Used, Rollers/Hyzer Flips)
Champion Sidewinder (175g, Well Used, Rollers/Hyzer Flips)
KC Pro Gazelle (175g, Medium, Straight/Anhyzer)
Star Leopard (175g, Medium, Turn-over)
Champion Monster (175g, Medium, Hyzers)
Man, I need to get rid of a few discs... Hmmm what to dump.
Sam
July 22nd, 2009, 08:45 AM
Wow... why would you throw so much Discraft when there are better discs made by another company?
Front:
175g DX XD
175g JK-Pro Aviar X
Right
180g Ontario Glow DX Roc
180g Flat Top Roc
180g KC Pro Roc (very beat)
Left:
180g KC Pro Roc (fairly new)
Main:
175g Champion Teebird
174g Champion Sidewinder
172g Champion Leopard
175g Champion Boss
175g Pro-Line Monster
175g Star Max (newer)
174g Star Wraith (very beat)
175g KC-Pro Gazelle (newer)
169g Star Destroyer (new)
172g Star Destroyer (beat)
175g Star Destroyer (new)
175g KC Pro Gazelle (beat)
175g Star Max (beat)
175g Star Destroyer (mid beat)
175g Champion Wraith
Back:
175g Champion Gator
175g Champion Glow Teebird
I think that's it...
zippyboy
July 22nd, 2009, 08:47 AM
Sam is right. Innova is much better. I love buying three of the same mold disc, in the exact same weight, in the same plastic, and feeling like I own three completely different discs. :shocked:
All kidding aside, throw what you like to throw, regardless of the company that made it. Until one of the plastic companies show you any loyalty, why feel loyal to them? :chinscratch:
Sam
July 22nd, 2009, 08:48 AM
Pffft... Thanks for the caricature of reality, Mitch. Have you ever purchased three Innova discs of the same mold and the same weight? I am thinking not...
zippyboy
July 22nd, 2009, 08:57 AM
Actually, Mr. Smarmy-Pants, I have done exactly that. On multiple occasions. Which is why I was more than happy to trade discs at the swap meet out at the RCO. I may not be as experienced as you, or throw as well as you do, but I don't just flat-out lie for the sake of continuing an argument. Though with you, I have considered it. :laughing:
See you this weekend, bro. :cheers:
snap7times
July 22nd, 2009, 08:59 AM
Putters
JK Pro Aviar (175g, Well Used)
JK Pro Aviar (175g, New-ish)
Mid-Range
Champion Spider (172g, Utility Mid)
Champion Gator (175g, Overstable Mid)
Ontario Roc (180g, Understable Mid)
KC Pro Roc (180g, Stable Mid)
Elite XL (175g, Shorty Rollers)
Drivers
Pro Destroyer (175g, Well Used, Max-D Turn-over)
Pro Destroyer (175g, Medium, Max-D Straight)
Pro Destroyer (175g, New, Max-D Hyzer)
Champion Glow Destroyer (175g, New, Headwinds)
Champion Glow Teebird (175g, Well Used, Straight Control Drives)
Champion Glow Teebird (175g, New, Straight/Hyzer Control Drives)
Star Teerex (175g, Well Used, Long Straight Control Drives)
Star Max (175g, Well Used, Long Hyzers)
Champion Sidewinder (170g, Well Used, Rollers/Hyzer Flips)
Champion Sidewinder (175g, Well Used, Rollers/Hyzer Flips)
KC Pro Gazelle (175g, Medium, Straight/Anhyzer)
Star Leopard (175g, Medium, Turn-over)
Champion Monster (175g, Medium, Hyzers)
Man, I need to get rid of a few discs... Hmmm what to dump.
My first thought is wow, that quite a bit of the same discs over and over again... 4 destroyers, teerex, max, and a monster; 7 discs that do almost the same thing; I'd prob get rid of the 2 newer pro destroyers cuz your teerex or max do the same thing as the 2 newer pro destroyers, but that's just me...
I have tonssss of drivers but depending on the course, i'll drop out a whole bunch...
In my bag now *testing different putters*
175 Gateway SS wizard
175 Gateway S wizard
171 KC pro Avair
Mids
177-178 Cryztal buzzz *these things are money! If you like the ESP, try the cryztal!
173-174 Cryztal Buzzz *Money, Money, Money!
178 FLX ESP Buzzz *straight in the woods or cold
168 Z Buzzz *easy turnover
172 Star Gator
180 Flat Top Roc *playing with this disc
Drivers
168 Star Wraith *beat to death-straight turnover
169 Star Teerex *same as above but more fade
172 12x Star Wraith *straight with good fade skip - turnsover in headwind
172 Star Teerex *straight with good fade
173 Champ Boss *this thing does everything! Lost it in the water at nationals last week, still seeking it's replacement, prob my 174 champ boss or 173 star boss....
173 Star Boss *back up to the champ
162 R-Pro Boss *playing with this
172 star excalibur - overstable
I have like 4-5 destroyers but between the wraiths, teerex and boss; my need for a destroyer has reduced...
168 first run star destroyer
169 pro destroyer - beat for turnovers, is in a weird bent shape that never gets unbent
170 star destroyer
169 star destroyer
Back up drivers for windy days or need for serious overstable
172 first run star excalibur
167 star boss - gosh no kidding the lighter star bosses are overstable on steroids.
168 star teerex - new
Testing
169 star teerex-x
175 star special blend wraith
Fairway drivers
174 champ glow teebird *money when I need it
175 champ valkyrie
175 champ sidewinder
170 champ viking
175 champ viking
crap i spent like 15 minutes on this, back to work....
JMan
July 22nd, 2009, 09:10 AM
What happens when the gestapo... pdga sorry, limits discs in the bag to 15 like stick golf. You know it's coming, hell what else they got to do but come up with shit...?
snap7times
July 22nd, 2009, 09:14 AM
Nah, never happen, not with bags being made to hold 25 discs or more... Now I think the PGA should allow balls to be replaced during a hole, balls that will go left, right, spin more, roll more etc... that would be cool...
Ode
July 22nd, 2009, 09:15 AM
big bead aviar 175
aviar PnA 175
dart 171
rhyno 175
4x glow roc 180
kc roc 175 new
kc roc 171 beat
pro leopard 171 beat
CE leopard 174 new
teebird 175
teebird 175
whippet-x 175
star boss 170 new
star boss 175 semi beat
star boss 175 beat to hell
maxx 175
Bullseye
July 22nd, 2009, 09:16 AM
My first thought is wow, that quite a bit of the same discs over and over again... 4 destroyers, teerex, max, and a monster; 7 discs that do almost the same thing; I'd prob get rid of the 2 newer pro destroyers cuz your teerex or max do the same thing as the 2 newer pro destroyers, but that's just me...
The three Pro Destroyers are my primary big distance drivers. I keep 3 in my bag at different levels of wear so if I lose one I am not completely crippled by the loss. There's always another one right there to replace it.
The Champion Glow Destroyer is extremely overstable, so it may very well take the place of the Max. It may not be quite as stable, but I think I can make it do the same thing with a little adjustment to my throw.
The Champion Monster is solid from 300-350ft, so it suits its purpose very well.
The Teerex is so beat up it's almost like a long Teebird, but it is definitely shorter than the Destroyers.
In summary: I think the Max is about to get benched.
JMan
July 22nd, 2009, 09:20 AM
Well a Stick golf bag will hold more than 15 clubs....and look at Sam's disc list, the only DGer sponsered by Samsonite. (j/k sam, you know I love ya)
Ol' Bob
July 22nd, 2009, 09:24 AM
...I just like the way Discraft Discs actually do what they say they are going to do. :jumpspin:
Yes, and yet there are six Innovas in my bag. I still suggest that Innova's slogan be, "No Two Alike." But getting you to buy three or four to find the one you like could just be smart marketing.
Tee Shot Drivers:
150 R-Pro Boss (added twenty to thirty feet)
150 DX Wraith
149 DX Wraith (soon to get the ax, new and too understable out of the box)
160 Champion Monarch (I can turn it over without losing it completely)
Approach Drivers (full pull situational):
167 Star Wraith (turns predictably left)
167 FLX Surge (dependably straight, if not long)
Approach and Downhill Drivers:
176 FLX Buzzz
178 FLX Buzzz
178 FLX Buzzz
175 FLX Buzzz
Approach and Putt:
Four Times JK Pro Aviar-X (approaches, left turn putts, and very long putts)
Ching JU JU (long putts and big annie putts)
Rattler (goto putter)
The driver situation will surely change when my three new ultralight R-Pro Bosses arrive this week. That 150 DX Wraith will hang around, as it's beaten in and flies right. The Star Wraith is my way stable left turner, but the goto long straights will be the Bosses.
Why four FLX Buzzes? Too much fun. Throw 'em hard, they go straight. My bag is set up for old man, me, at Lucky Mud, and there are two steep downhills that I just have to throw all four at. I gotta get at least one park job out of the four. They're also good on a couple of short holes.
So, six Innova, six Discraft, and one Ching.
General Scales
July 22nd, 2009, 09:48 AM
I never was an Aviar fan. Always liked the XD and the Aero more so then the Aviar:shocked:. Still, I keep all the Innova around for others to use. My loyalty to Discraft stems from two places. 1.) The rating system and description online makes sense. If it says stays flat and lands soft, it does. For some reason their discs are the same everytime. Very predictable. I don't like the guessing game aspect of Innova discs (went through 5 Vikings before I got another like the 1st one I fell in love with.) 2.) The Buzzz and Force are money discs. Plain and simple. I could probably just play with a stack of each in different plastics and states of wear and never really need another disc. I just like to have them:rockon:
Scotty B
July 22nd, 2009, 10:00 AM
I believe the same thing until one of the major disc suppliers gives me there stuff to throw I will stick with what works for me at this time things could change.
Drivers
173 Esp Surge
172 Esp Surge
170 Esp surge
172 x avenger
171 Esp avenger SS
173 Z flicks forehand only
173 Z XS (rollers)
175 champion/star sidewinder (both new to the bag)
175 champion glow destroyer (new to bag)
172 12x star wraith
172 champion wraith
Mid Range
175 Esp buzzz x 2
175 san marino roc
172 star aviar (short range awesome control)
putter
175 Flx challenger (new to the bag)
Sam
July 22nd, 2009, 10:00 AM
Actually, Mr. Smarmy-Pants, I have done exactly that. On multiple occasions. Which is why I was more than happy to trade discs at the swap meet out at the RCO. I may not be as experienced as you, or throw as well as you do, but I don't just flat-out lie for the sake of continuing an argument. Though with you, I have considered it. :laughing:
Lie? Interesting choice of words.
I didn't say you lied. I definitely think you are exaggerating and maybe don't know how to reproduce the same throw three times in a row but I didn't say you lied.
Sam
July 22nd, 2009, 10:02 AM
My first thought is wow, that quite a bit of the same discs over and over again... 4 destroyers, teerex, max, and a monster; 7 discs that do almost the same thing;
Wow! Have you actually thrown these discs? A destroyer and a TeeRex are not the same. And they are both VERY different from the Max and the Monster.
Seriously... you throw these, right?
Ol' Bob
July 22nd, 2009, 10:06 AM
Well, they are Innovas.
Sam
July 22nd, 2009, 10:09 AM
Right. My bad. They all throw exactly the same. :rolleyes2:
General Scales
July 22nd, 2009, 10:11 AM
Discs on my wish list to try:
ESP Tracker
ESP 150 Class Flick
ESP Pulse
ESP Meteor
ESP Glide
Pro D Ringer
ESP Zone
Elite Z Striker
ESP SS Surge
FLX ESP SS Avenger
I hope one day they finally make a FLX Wasp cause I'll convert to it in a heartbeat!
Ol' Bob
July 22nd, 2009, 10:13 AM
No, you never know what you're going to get for sure. Example: I have two 167 Star Wraiths. One is like a Wraith (if one can really say) and one is much like a Firebird (whatever that means). Two Innovas can come from the same mold, look the same, and fly like some other mold (or variation thereof). That's the gripe about Innova, as I see it. Yet they make the drivers I can throw farthest, so I buy a few to find the one that works for me. Innova is a lottery where you buy several tickets to win one good disc.
Scott
July 22nd, 2009, 10:14 AM
Wow! Have you actually thrown these discs? A destroyer and a TeeRex are not the same. And they are both VERY different from the Max and the Monster.
Seriously... you throw these, right?
Depends on a variety of factors such as arm strenght as well as the type and condition of the disc.
With my weenie arm, a new star teerex flies similar to a beat star destroyer. A new monster does about the same thing for me as a lightly worn Max.
But one of the first things I learned about discs is that individual results may vary. The disc that is the shiznit for one player may not do squat for someone else. But that didn't keep me from trying damn near every disc on the market as soon as I heard someone say it was their favorite disc. :rolleyes2:
Iowa
July 22nd, 2009, 10:26 AM
Let's see what a have.
Drivers
175 Champion Boss
171 ESP Crush
165 Elite X Avenger
172 DX Firebird
Mid-range
Z Hawk. It's all I need
Putters
Wizard
Pro-d Banger GT
Sam
July 22nd, 2009, 10:28 AM
No, you never know what you're going to get for sure. Example: I have two 167 Star Wraiths. One is like a Wraith (if one can really say) and one is much like a Firebird (whatever that means). Two Innovas can come from the same mold, look the same, and fly like some other mold (or variation thereof). That's the gripe about Innova, as I see it. Yet they make the drivers I can throw farthest, so I buy a few to find the one that works for me. Innova is a lottery where you buy several tickets to win one good disc.
Anyone who thinks that Discraft discs do not do the exact same thing are either ignorant or lying.
Tim
July 22nd, 2009, 11:07 AM
Protip: do not do a google image search for "beating a dead horse" at work, particularly when your boss is in viewing distance of your monitor.
Anyway, there was a thread on DGR not long ago about what the market shares are of disc golf manufacturers. There were many estimations, but a guess of 80% Innova, 15% Discraft, and 5% Other doesn't seem too far off. When a company is making that many more discs, there's that much more room for variation. So yeah, while Discraft may have variations in their plastic, your chances of getting "out of sync" discs from Innova are that much higher.
Also, with some of these bags people are listing, I notice a key component is being omitted: a back brace!
snap7times
July 22nd, 2009, 11:12 AM
Wow! Have you actually thrown these discs? A destroyer and a TeeRex are not the same. And they are both VERY different from the Max and the Monster.
Seriously... you throw these, right?
says the guy with 4 star destroyers in his bag lol! Now there may be slight differences in flight characterisics between destroyer-teerex-max-monster... however, you will notice, the better you get or more comfortable you get with one or two particular discs, the more you rely on one disc to be able to do what the similar discs would do with slight modifications in form and strength.. For me, i am willing to sacrafice 50 feet of distance for added control and accuracy and would rather throw 3 drivers 6 times each than 6 drivers 3 times each... and all these new discs, trying them out etc really isn't helping me at all... got the special blend wraith and teerex-x recently along with the r-pro boss, plus lost my go-to champ boss.. gosh I need like 5 hours of practice each day to finally understand what I like and need, but for now, i notice i do much better when i just rely on the wraiths and teerexes for a whole round... back to the topic on hand, whats in your bag!
Sam
July 22nd, 2009, 11:35 AM
Wow, Nate... you do realize that most pros have multiples of the same disc in their bag... right? 4 destroyers doesn't mean squat when you consider the weights and level of beatness.
Sorry... I don't rely on one disc to do what similar discs do... but mostly because a Destroyer and a Max are not similar... at all.
Did some newbie steal Nate's credentials? I am a little stunned that the Destroyer and the Max are likened by someone with experience.
Scotty B
July 22nd, 2009, 12:02 PM
I have to agree with Sam I have thrown both the Destroyer and max and they are not the same disc and also how can anyone say that Innova has a mold problem are your brand new shoes as comfortable as the old ones you replaced I think not. I believe that everyones throwing style is different I have added and also pulled disc from the bag and believe it or not the disc I was unhappy with before now has a home in my bag. The technique of individuals will change from time to time just like there disc change in time so throw what you are comfortable with and mix it up sometimes just remember to have a good time throwing some disc. NO MATTER WHAT COMPANY THEY COME FROM.
General Scales
July 22nd, 2009, 12:22 PM
I agree with Scotty B on this one. Throw discs and be happy. I was happy with most of my purchases from Innova, except for the Skeeter, Gator and Cobra midranges. I give massive props to anybody who can throw an Excalibur like it's designed to fly. I just prefer Discraft. Notice now how this thread is a bashing point instead of a list of discs people have in their bags. Also notice that nobody has listed off any Lightning or Quest AT discs. All I'm saying is that I throw Discraft because it's my preference to do so. They fly better for me and they feel more comfortable to me. Do I think they are more accurate to their supposed flight characteristics than Innova? Yes, but they also make less discs and anybody who has ever done mass production style work knows that variances happen even though the mold hasn't changed in the slightest. Gateway has a great blog on this about the different types of softness's in their putter lines due to plastic mixing (Medium, Soft, Super Soft and Super Stupid Soft).
Just remember, Innova started the bevel-edged disc which pushed us to the this place we are at now. They forced the competition to get better and they have. Everyone should thank them even if they don't throw their plastic :cheers:. I do everytime I step upon my favorite tee pad and huck a Discraft disc. :shocked:
Oh yeah, last thing. I throw a Force 450 to 500 feet on a great day:bowing: and about 400-425 on an good day. Regular days are 350-400. It's the disc that finally converted me to a pure Discraft fanatic. Controllable lonnngggg range distance is great in any form :trophy:
JMan
July 22nd, 2009, 12:27 PM
Let's not forget that innova started out as "Champion-Innova Sport Discs"
Damn, dated myself
erp
July 22nd, 2009, 01:13 PM
Hmmm, I got a sharpie, some athletic tape, bug spray, a pocket knife AND a leatherman, Ibuprofen, acetominophen, aspirin, a packet of Emergen-C, some sandpaper, matches from Tiny's from last year that don't look like they'll light anymore, a spare key for my car, a secret flask of Oban for those impromptu ace celebrations (recently added - sorry Scotty!) a flashlight, some score cards, and a thing of SPF 900 to protect my northern euromutt pallor.
Oh yeah, and some frisbees...mostly rocs...
Funny that nobody is standing up for Wham-O here!
zippyboy
July 22nd, 2009, 01:20 PM
Lie? Interesting choice of words.
I didn't say you lied. I definitely think you are exaggerating and maybe don't know how to reproduce the same throw three times in a row but I didn't say you lied.
Correct. You did not SAY that I lied, only IMPLIED it.
I had three brand new DX XD putters. All three acted differently over the course of practicing multiple afternoons. They were all the same color, same weight, and (obviously) same mold, purchased on the same day. One was very overstable, one only slightly so, and one that was slightly understable. Thing is, it wasn't until I was 30 to 40 feet out that I actually started to notice.
This is what started me on my quest to replace the XD. And now I have, with a Gateway Wizard.
And, for the record, at any given time you will find Discraft, Innova, Gateway, and Lightning discs in my bag. Why? Because the discs I throw from those companies work best for me. I don't hate Innova - or any other manufacturer. I just have found that Discraft discs are more consistent in the discs I have purchased.
Is that enough of a disclaimer, Sammy? Maybe I should add: Limited time offer, restrictions may apply. Not valid in New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, or on the street Sam lives on. Plus tax where applicable. Not intended for use by pregnant women. :whistler:
NWDiscer
July 22nd, 2009, 01:39 PM
Tourney bag:
1st run Star Destroyer 170 well used
Champion Wraith 175 no trees and will still turn over if snapped...
dx Gazelle 175 275-350 anny drive's
CFR Glo Eagle 325-375 long str8
9X kc eagle 175 rollers annys anything but str8...lol
180 Battle roc hyzer bomb
11Xdx 179 str8 roc
162 ce classic roc long str8 whichever line its put on
170 ce classic roc well beat anny disc
175 ce Rhyno overstable pig 150'< upshot forehand flicks & wind putter
175 1998 worlds biggest dx Aviar inside 50' putter
and out of these 11 i will have rounds where i only throw maybe 5-6 of these discs...:jumpspin::chug:
:cheers:
erp
July 22nd, 2009, 01:45 PM
You must possess brass cajones to have this in your bag!
Mine sits in a box with it's friends, only to be visited on special occasions and long winter nights...
Granted I usually have a champion Ontario along for the ride...
Tourney bag:
180 Battle roc hyzer bomb
snap7times
July 22nd, 2009, 02:00 PM
Wow, Nate... you do realize that most pros have multiples of the same disc in their bag... right? 4 destroyers doesn't mean squat when you consider the weights and level of beatness.
Sorry... I don't rely on one disc to do what similar discs do... but mostly because a Destroyer and a Max are not similar... at all.
Did some newbie steal Nate's credentials? I am a little stunned that the Destroyer and the Max are likened by someone with experience.
heh, maybe the max i threw was one of those inconsistencies that is linked with the innova brand... I just got another one from Dion in our massive innova-discraft trade at BSF, which I hope had some influence on his climb to being 1000 rated lol.. anyways, i'll pull that max aside and use it in my next round. For now, my massive overstable disc is a 167 star boss which is the most overstable disc i have ever thrown to date... I have yet to find a disc to replace my glorified first run star destroyer which lays at the bottom of fountain hills, unless someone found it and knows a first run is worth keeping... In the mean time I am working on being content with my various wraiths and teerexes... I try not to carry 15 drivers every round, that bag is getting heavy on me...
And I agree, through time, form and strength change, which will affect the flight characteristics of the discs... I have lost dramatic distance in the past 2 years since I stopped working out vigorously, and that has affected my disc selection so...
Scotty B
July 22nd, 2009, 02:02 PM
I would like to play a round with anybody that has posted on this thread and lets swap some disc for a round and see what different technique brings to the disc. I would suggest a course that minimal chances of lost disc could happen I will carry your bag if you will carry mine just a thought you might even find something you like to throw without having to bye it first.
NWDiscer
July 22nd, 2009, 02:04 PM
You must possess brass cajones to have this in your bag!
Mine sits in a box with it's friends, only to be visited on special occasions and long winter nights...
Granted I usually have a champion Ontario along for the ride...
well there is a much longer story to go along with this disc....but lets say it was in with a bunch of discs i had been trying sell off and it got put away haphazardly and it ended up with a small warp in the flight plate. I tried dashboarding it and the warp stayed, so it lost its MINT status. plus i have wanted to put 1 back in my bag after the 1st 1 i had got lost after 2yrs of use......:waaah::waaah::waaah::angry::headbang: :explode: :seeya:
So it is #7 of the 8 i had from the original run at 1 time i had 4 blue 2 red 1 silver and 1 black. the 1st 1 i threw was a common blue with no sigs on it.
This 1 however is a black with both Kenny and Barry's sigs on it.....:jumpspin:
and i still have 1 blue Mint left with just Barry's sig on it.
snap7times
July 22nd, 2009, 02:08 PM
excellent idea, there are various ways to make a round more fun... I recently showed up to play with a friend and told him to pick 5 discs and leave the rest behind, we played a round with only 5 discs each, helped us learn those 5 discs even more, then the next time it was only 3... I would be down for that, next time i'm in Oregon though...
Scotty B
July 22nd, 2009, 02:12 PM
excellent idea, there are various ways to make a round more fun... I recently showed up to play with a friend and told him to pick 5 discs and leave the rest behind, we played a round with only 5 discs each, helped us learn those 5 discs even more, then the next time it was only 3... I would be down for that, next time i'm in Oregon though...
Shoot me a PM and we will see if we can hook up for a most excellent round I love me some disc.
Sam
July 22nd, 2009, 02:15 PM
Correct. You did not SAY that I lied, only IMPLIED it.
How so? By saying that I doubted that you had ever bought three of the same Innova discs at once? I don't think so.
I had three brand new DX XD putters. All three acted differently over the course of practicing multiple afternoons. They were all the same color, same weight, and (obviously) same mold, purchased on the same day. One was very overstable, one only slightly so, and one that was slightly understable. Thing is, it wasn't until I was 30 to 40 feet out that I actually started to notice.
Well, Mitch... I would be more likely to believe that this was due to user error rather than anything else but I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this. I have nearly a dozen XDs (all the same weights) and I can take any of them and they all fly the same way - even from as far out as 150 feet.
This is what started me on my quest to replace the XD. And now I have, with a Gateway Wizard.
OK... if you say so. More XDs for me, I guess.
And, for the record, at any given time you will find Discraft, Innova, Gateway, and Lightning discs in my bag. Why? Because the discs I throw from those companies work best for me. I don't hate Innova - or any other manufacturer. I just have found that Discraft discs are more consistent in the discs I have purchased.
Again, I am more likely to believe that this is due to user error than anything else. I do not believe for a second that Discrap is any more consistent in the real world.
Is that enough of a disclaimer, Sammy? Maybe I should add: Limited time offer, restrictions may apply. Not valid in New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, or on the street Sam lives on. Plus tax where applicable. Not intended for use by pregnant women. :whistler:
Excuse me... I almost couldn't read that paragraph because I was too busy doing this :rolleyes: and this :rolleyes2:
NWDiscer
July 22nd, 2009, 02:16 PM
excellent idea, there are various ways to make a round more fun... I recently showed up to play with a friend and told him to pick 5 discs and leave the rest behind, we played a round with only 5 discs each, helped us learn those 5 discs even more, then the next time it was only 3... I would be down for that, next time i'm in Oregon though...
when i was still learning how to throw less than 3 years of throwing "discs" i used to play round's with just my putter, i was always amazed at how well i played some of my rounds, this was always at timber, the best i have shot was -4 with a putter on the orig. placements.
erp
July 22nd, 2009, 03:10 PM
You both/all show up with 10 discs, your opponent/opponents get to select 5 discs to remove from your bag and...
You throw the round with what's left, preferably with beer on the line...
Might need to have rules about leaving one mid, one putter one driver, but beyond that...get evil!
:shooting:
:chug:
:cheers:
Scotty B
July 22nd, 2009, 03:45 PM
You both/all show up with 10 discs, your opponent/opponents get to select 5 discs to remove from your bag and...
You throw the round with what's left, preferably with beer on the line...
Might need to have rules about leaving one mid, one putter one driver, but beyond that...get evil!
:shooting:
:chug:
:cheers:
This sounds good to me when where and how many people want to play for name brand bragging rights put your plastic where your mouth is and lets bring the noise.
erp
July 22nd, 2009, 04:10 PM
I used to have 5 or so - down to one, but no sigs besides Barry and Ken on the card sealed in the bag...I do have the first spectator skeet roc ("07, "08 sealed in bag with Climo, Schulz, and Feldberg sigs on the disc - that one's pretty sweet...
well there is a much longer story to go along with this disc....but lets say it was in with a bunch of discs i had been trying sell off and it got put away haphazardly and it ended up with a small warp in the flight plate. I tried dashboarding it and the warp stayed, so it lost its MINT status. plus i have wanted to put 1 back in my bag after the 1st 1 i had got lost after 2yrs of use......:waaah::waaah::waaah::angry::headbang: :explode: :seeya:
So it is #7 of the 8 i had from the original run at 1 time i had 4 blue 2 red 1 silver and 1 black. the 1st 1 i threw was a common blue with no sigs on it.
This 1 however is a black with both Kenny and Barry's sigs on it.....:jumpspin:
and i still have 1 blue Mint left with just Barry's sig on it.
Eric Olson
July 22nd, 2009, 04:41 PM
I used to carry a bunch of different discs on the course. Now I'm down to just one driver for every shot since the rest of my bag is full of the pamphlets I give out to people on the course explaining why they should wise up and switch to the brand I use.
snap7times
July 22nd, 2009, 05:01 PM
oh i forgot what else is in my bag
biking arm sleeve - to keep my arm warm and lower the risk of injury - just saw another freaky disc golf injury to a friend's bicep, looks like he just did 100 bicep curls at like 100 pounds...
nail clippers - cant grip a disc right if one of my nails is too long...
matches - never leave home without it, sucks trying to light a fire at the campground without a match
glow sticks! - oh yeah baby! glow golf time!
hand warmers - for those cold mornings
Tiger balm - for those sore arms
chapstick - no one likes looking at your chapped lips looking like herpes... ewww
sunblock - it's hot down here yo!
towels - for that one day you need them...
minis - sucks borrowing minis don't it... and ofc have a few extra to give out to those neewbs who don't have one.
pencils - in case the TD hands out pens instead of pencils in the players pack...
scorecard clipboard - guy snapped mine in half at nationals, good thing walmart sells them for $1 something...
PDGA handbook - for those cheaters to read it black and white
Hearing aide batteries - to enjoy hearing all those gross noises those hearing people make heh...
Raffle money - always good to go!
huk lab sweat bands - so sexy so sexy...
i'll add to this if i forgot something....
This is not a thread drift, since this is all in my bag... ;)
Brian
July 22nd, 2009, 05:50 PM
Ok Here goes my 30 minutes of typing:
Starting from left to right..
Outside pocket putters
Quest Odyssey
Discraft Soft Magnet
Wham-O Putter *for the times I want to feel like a pro!*
Inside the bag:
Leopard DX 147 *turn-over shots 250 and under*
Leopard Star 150 *turn-over shots under 250 if trees are in the way*
Leopard Pro 172 *Straight shots under 250*
Leopard Star 172 *turn-over shots under 250 where I need it to fade back at the end*
Roc Ontario 179 *straight upshots or hard left-right hooks around trees etc..*
Roc Worlds SB 180 *Standard upshot disc small fade at the end / drives under 200 like 6 at Vance*
Gator Star 175 *hard hyzer short distance upshots like hole 3 at Dabney throw #2*
DGA Squall 175?? *not sure, just testing it out, threw it and it seems pretty straight and better with wind than Ontario Roc*
Beast Pro 164 *beat all the way up, for straight then turnover at end shots .. like 11 on Dabney*
Sidewinder Champ 150 *Unbelievably worn in, for super hard turn-over drives I just lost it on the bank of hole 11 Dabney I want it back BADLY!*
Valkyrie Star 150 *Turn-over with some fade back at the end, that is if I don't throw it too hard*
Teebird Champ RCO 150 * for shots like hole 2 at Pier .. and hole 3. Turn over and stay over*
Beast Star 172 *Straight shots 325-350, small fade if thrown right*
Valkyrie Pro 168 *s-curve drives or long drives where I turn it over and want it to stay over*
Valkyrie Star 175 *Straight shots small fade at end, very nice S-curve for my throw! 350-375*
Boss R-Pro 164 *Not sure exactly what to do with this, great for rollers, nice s-curve, not sure where it fits in yet*
Firebird Star 172 *Sidearm accuracy shots and lots of approach scenarios, like under trees/bushes etc.. also short holes like 12 at Dabney where I need it to hook at end*
Groove Champ 172 *Not sure where it fits in yet, but does great s-curve shots and fades back less than Boss, great distance for me 375+*
Wraith Pro 170 *Great S-curve long driver for me*
Wraith Star 172 *well worn, multi-purpose long distance .. love this disc!*
Boss Star 168 * Hard hyzers like 4 at Dabney .. LOVE this disc!*
Outside pocket to right:
KC Pro Roc 180 *I never use it, I just forget to take it out*
Yes, I have mostly Innova, but that is only because I can't seem to get Discraft to go near as far as my Innova discs. I have zero preference. I would play with all Wham-O discs if I found ones I liked. I have several and they sucks ... except the putter is decent. I know, I know ... I have many repetitive discs and I could clear maybe 2-3 discs out of my bag. I could lose the DX leopard and the pro wraith and be none the worse for wear. I keep them in there for times when I might lose a disc. I will throw those.
I also have some of that wood powder resin stuff to keep my discs dry in the winter, 2 markers, 4 towels, 2 water bottles, Sharpie for marking poles when I get an ace :nahnah:. Chain gang tag that I have never played anyone for. My bag I got at Goodwill for $6.99 and it works great. It is a sparkley "Glam" black color and I use Innova backpack straps and it works great without having ot pay over $100 for a similar bag new.:trophy:
Ol' Bob
July 22nd, 2009, 05:57 PM
I used to carry a bunch of different discs on the course. Now I'm down to just one driver for every shot since the rest of my bag is full of the pamphlets I give out to people on the course explaining why they should wise up and switch to the brand I use.
Heh heh.
Bruce
July 22nd, 2009, 06:54 PM
Alright alright where to start...
175 Purple Eco Xcaliber -Because it's sexy and overstable.
175 Champ Xcal
175 Pro Line Monster- Straight to slightly overstable
175 Champ Glow Destroyer
175 Champ Destroyer- Somewhat beat, forehand rollers mostly
175 Champ Boss- New
175 Champ Boss- Slightly beat to new
170 SE Leopard- Turnovers/Rollers
170 Pro Leopard
175 Champ Glow T-bird- Straight/turnover
175 Champ T-bird- Hyzer/Straight
180 Dx Roc- Striaght-ish
180 Flat Top Roc- Hyzer
175 Champ Rhyno
175 Jk Aviar
175 KC Aviar- Jump putts
175 12x KC Aviar- 250 and in drives
175 11x KC Whippet X- Beat
175 Champ Whippet X- 5 years old and very over stable
175 Star Whippet X- Crazy overstable
TYVEK
July 23rd, 2009, 06:58 AM
I have just recently changed what i carry in my bag. for the next month or so i this is what i am carrying on a daily basis.
1-175g esp wasp (overstable)
1-174g elite Z Buzzz (straight flyer)
1-170g esp Meteor (slightly understable)
1-169g esp Stratus (really understable)
2-174g Crossfire putters(made by Quest AT)
General Scales
July 23rd, 2009, 12:25 PM
New to the bag since I just lost one the other day at Downriver:
174 ESP Flash
174 L.E. ESP Venom (to replace my beat beyond beat, doesn't do anything well Pro D Venom)
174 ESP Zone (Finally a putter I can put some mustard on.
Soon to be in the bag:
176 Crystal Z Buzzz (just waiting for it to come in to Rapid Fire)
176 Elite Z Wasp (old one is getting beat and it's nice to have a replacement)
174 ESP SS Avenger (The Elite Z version is too skip prone on hard surfaces)
171 Elite Z Stalker (I'm a new disc whore and really, who wouldn't want a long range Buzzz?)
174 Pro D Ringer (Fills the gap up between my Challenger and my Zone for stability)
174 Soft APX (need one to replace my worn, warped one)
174 Elite X Stratus (definite roller since I was using my SS Avenger for it and now I use that disc for long turnovers and even longer hyzer flips)
Never to be purchased again:
Any Pro D discs that aren't putters :smash:
Any disc under 171 grams :shooting:
Oh yeah, and I've ordered the Gateway Ozark Backpack. Thing is tits.
JMan
July 23rd, 2009, 12:48 PM
Saw those bags at the 2009 BSF, interesting. Way to big for my needs, but interesting.
TYVEK
July 23rd, 2009, 12:56 PM
i think those bags look hokey.
JMan
July 23rd, 2009, 01:46 PM
hokey, interesting, not for me for sure, hey I miss the one disc dayz
Kenny B
July 23rd, 2009, 02:30 PM
Driver: ESP Flash
Headwind Driver: Z Force
Straight driver for in the woods: Z XL
Mid-Ranges: Z Buzz, Z BuzzSS, Z Wasp
Putter: R-Pro Aviar P&A
All Weights Low to Mid 170s
Joshua Olmsted
July 24th, 2009, 01:59 AM
Wow, one day 58 posts so far, I love reading Innova vs. Discraft matches, what I always liked was when I first started throwing all Discraft people would always give me crap and say "why are you being biased to Discraft" or things in this vain but I would rarely see anyone question the manufacturer bias of someone who throws all Innova.
My own reasons for being all Discraft, simply put, at one point in time found a great lineup of 6 molds that I loved to death and it served all my shot making needs, and I just decided I would just stick to learning and mastering those molds, changing plastics and weights to get different shot types, and I simply have no current interest in trying out new molds.... Oh, all that and I'm just a bit stubborn in general.
My playing bag.
167 FLX Surge
170 FLX Surge
168 FLX Avenger SS
169 FLX Aenger SS
171 FLX Avenger SS
164 X Avenger
170 X Avenger
172 Z RCO Avenger
173 Z Extreme (Favorite disc ever)
172 Z XL (Very beat)
172 Z XL (Medium beat)
172 Z XL (Brand new)
175 ESP Supercolor Buzz
175 ESP Supercolor Buzz
178 Z Buzz
178 Z Buzz
3 175 D Soft Magnets
tomw
July 24th, 2009, 07:30 AM
Im breaking in a putter this season, a new soft magnet to accompany my long range putter/upshot disc were im using a soft gumputt-er. A new dx ROC to accent my 2 well beat in dx rocs for short drives and long upshots.2 sidewinders and a roadrunner along with my FAVORITE DISC, an old 10 time KC pro Eagle help my turnover/anhyzerneeds. For over stable drivers i have 2 well thrown Orcs and 1 new NIRDGC charter member glo orc. They share time w/2 heavy Boss's when i need to go as far as i can. And then there a new whippet X that im trying to breakin to become a thumber/tomahawk disc to accent my current thumber disc a well warn dx gazzelle.
Last weekend i spruced up and brought out my pull "CART" for the N Mltdn tourney. It did me fabulously, as i didn't have to lug around 20 lbs of my shis for 3 long hot rounds:dancing: Masters golf!!:rockon::jumpspin:
Brian
July 24th, 2009, 09:18 AM
My view on why people choose all Discraft is ...
For the same reason some people dye their hair purple and get a Mohawk. They want to be different. It gives them a talking point and an interesting fact about themselves. People get comfortable being molded certain ways in people's minds and they want to stay there. If they can get discs that do what they want AND be outside the mold, then perfect! I like to be different, but not for the sake of being different. If the most common discs fly better for me then I will use them.
For my throw, Discraft doesn't work well as a whole. I can get a wraith way farther than I can an Avenger. But I have seen pros throw the Avenger over 400 ft easily. The same thing with a surge. I throw it very poorly, The only discs from DC that I can throw well are already in my bag (except the Buzzzz, which I took out to trade someone for an R-Pro Boss, but I LOVE the Buzzzz). So anyways, that's how I see it.
JMan
July 24th, 2009, 09:52 AM
Well for me B, all DISCRAFT, it's about simplicity. Lets face it, there are hundreds of molds out there, in fact so many that if a person decided to try everything they would master nothing. I throw 6 molds, and carry only 9 discs. Heck there are Discraft molds out there I've never thrown, or care to, really. I prefer to really get to know the molds I throw, and not buy into the corporate hype that assures me every few months that this new disc will solve all my problems. I mean I've had one Buzzz in my bag for the last 3 seasons, if I jumped on the bandwagon everytime it came around I wouldn't know how to have that disc dance towards the basket with such beauty. For me this game is an escape from the pressures of the daily grind, not part of it. Plus I save lots of cash not having to buy a new disc every GD week.
snap7times
July 24th, 2009, 10:06 AM
well, not being a smoker or much of a drinker, I find that the money that would usually be spent on cigs, alcohol, drugs etc, gets spent on discs, boy do I have plenty of money in that budget heh... yes i'm encouraging less cigs, alcohol and drugs, i'm a horrible person arent I? so taboo... pflt...
General Scales
July 24th, 2009, 10:47 AM
I carry so many versions of the same discs because I love to have a replacement immediately if I lose one and I've thrown them all so many times that I love having a new, semi-new and beat version. I believe the Flash, Stratus and Stalker are going to be the last new drivers I buy. Then I'll have two versions of every disc I own. After that I'll only buy what I lose or if I find a disc that is a better version of a disc I already love.
Brian
July 24th, 2009, 11:46 AM
It is very true that learning the discs you throw and sticking with them is very important. If I ever do get a new disc to put in my bag I only do 1 at a time usually. Right now I have a DGA Squall and an R-Pro Boss AND a Groove that I am testing out. That just basically means I will be carrying them for months before I get enough occasions that I don't' care what happens so i can test the discs. But as a whole I just use the discs I know and love.
Sam
July 24th, 2009, 11:48 AM
Man... show up for your round at Pier 10 minutes early and throw the crap out of those discs back and forth across the field. It doesn't take many throws to really see what a disc does. Learning it on the other hand is another matter altogether.
Kris Hagner
July 24th, 2009, 12:31 PM
Revolution Carolina Bag
(Peach Snapple, a Utensil, and a Huk Lab Mini packed full of party supplies.)
160 Champion Orc (Main Driver)
175 Champion Orc
172 Pro Line Beast (Willing to trade, not special to me)
175 Champion Starfire
166 Champion Firebird
175 Champion Sidewinder (Rollers and straight shots)
169 Champion Roadrunner (Right Turning Backhand Rollers)
171 Champion Roadrunner (Right Turning Backhand Rollers)
170 Star Roadrunner (Left Turning Backhand Rollers)
175 Star Tee Rex (Super Overstable, Hole 4 at Leverich)
165 Z XL
176 Champion Tee Bird (Predictable Hyzers)
172 Star Leopard (Stable to overstable upshots)
163 Star Stingray (Understable upshots)
175 Star Aviar Driver (Putting in the wind, Predictable Upshots)
150 Star Aviar (My go-to putter)
164 Z Glide (Tryin' some Discraft! With a sweet Obama Dye! Can't wait for it to arrive! I gotta go check the Mail...)
papatart
July 24th, 2009, 01:49 PM
Let's see here:
2 - Swirl APX (one for throwing, one for putting)
1- Soft Banger GT (for the straight approach up to 200)
1- FLX Challeneger (for the hyzer approach)
1- X Stratus (in the bag since '97, best turnover disc ever)
1- ESP Comet (for the longer, more gradual turnover)
1- Z Buzzz SS (The best straight mid ever made)
1- ESP Buzzz (The mid that everyone needs to try and own)
1- DGA Aftershock (Ooh, the touch more overstable mid that is awesome)
1- ESP Torque (Even more overstable, but not too crazy)
1- Z XL (Other disc in the bag since '97. The most controllable driver ever)
1- Z Tracker (the fast XL, better into the wind)
1- ESP Flash (If there is the room for the full flight, my longest driver)
2- ESP Surges (My money open distance driver, the second is in case of loss)
2- ESP Forces (My big hyzer driver, again, second in case of loss)
1- ESP Venom (Forehands and long overhands)
1- Z Flick (Spike hyzers, forehands and forehand rollers)
Other stuff that goes in for special situations:
ESP/Z Avenger SS-for long turnover drives and rollers
Z Crush- same as above
X Cyclone - For throwllers
FLX/Z Drone - For windy conditions
Sparkle Z DGA Shockwave - For the wind
And for Brian, maybe the reason you throw the Discraft discs poorly is that you haven't given them enough time. I know that when I put an XL in a lot of folks hands they are awful with it and have no idea how it can be considered a control disc. Then after working with it and learning it, they find out that with less effort than other drivers take they are throwing the XL and being able to have great control. Give some discs (Avenger, Surge, etc) more of a learning curve and you may be surprised.
Later,
Scott Papa
Brian
July 24th, 2009, 02:59 PM
Scott, I go to a field occasionally just to throw about 60 discs. I have a few surges and I just have had no luck getting them over 300 feet. The Avenger I get further than that, but not as far as a comparable Wraith. I like the feel of the surge and the avenger. they release well and are predictable. I would be happy to have you show me how to throw them if we meet up sometime :)
kyle95
July 24th, 2009, 05:58 PM
1-ESP FORCE (forhands and big heizers)
1-ESP PULSE (forehands)
1-ESP SURGE (long distance)
2-ESP FLASH
1-Z STALKER
1-Z XL
1-X STRATUS
1-D ZONE
1-ESP BUZZZ
1-Z BUZZZ SS
1-ESP COMET
1-FLX CHALLENGER
1-X SOFT CHALLENGER
1-D BANGER GT (forehands only)
2-X SOFT APX
1-SWIRL APX (putting only)
captain jack
July 24th, 2009, 09:12 PM
Well, since I'm not caught up in the R-Pro madness, there really isn't anything new for me to carry around and test, so my bag is fairly lean and mean.
My usual bag for Seatac and Lakewood right now includes:
175 Champion Valkyrie- meat and taters backhand driver, predictable 'S' flight pattern, great into a head wind.
161 Star Valkyrie- ruler flat top, more stable than the max weight but more sensitive to nose angle. Goes long and straight when throw just above the deck.
175 Star Wraith- Spike hyzer and skip hyzer king.
150 Dx Beast- Goes farther backhand, with a following wind, than anything else I carry.
141 KC Pro Gazelle- The one in Champion plastic. This is my best thumber disc, great for uphill, or shots up and over trees, like a flop shot in ball golf, it comes down on edge, bounces once, then sticks.
124 Raging Inferno DT Ultralight- Nike plastic has better grip and feel than ANYTHING in the industry, more discs should be molded in this stuff, bring on the swoosh discs! This is a utility disc for me. The hardest shot on my body is a hard backhand pull from a limited stance, like when you are right behind a tree, or must shoot from a kneeling position, when any runup is not possible.
I can accelerate a superlight disc must quicker than I can a heavyweight, so this little disc gets me up and down from trouble much easier than the rest.
167 Starlight Boss- :bowing: Awesome.
Where do I start. Thanks Dave for making this stabilized temptress.
The Starlight formula is truly groundbreaking. I am so eagerly awaiting the Starlight Destroyers.
This is my go to forehand driver now, when I throw it well, it flies farther than anything else I can throw by 20-50', I also like the way it finishes hard, sometimes I can pinch an extra 15 or 20 feet from the roll. I also use it now for big forehand hyzer drives with a cross wind.
It does take some practice to throw it well though. Some days it feels like my other hand is throwing it, I just cant make it work well, that's why I also carry a
172 Star Xcaliber- more predictable than the Boss, and easier for me to throw, it always feels comfortable resting on my first finger.This is the one I would throw blindfolded on a bar bet.
170 Star Destroyer- Straight long range upshots, used to be my best forehander, still has tremendous glide for its speed, but I turn it over now, thats why I'm drooling over the new stabilized version that Daves coming out with. Bring it.
168 Star Monarch- Used to hate it, now I love it, it truly is the best disc for me for long anhyzer shots that I need to carry the line until the bitter end, with no final fade.
And finally, my
150 Star Valkyrie- The world famous Lavaputter, nobody could steal this disc and say its thiers, everybody knows I own the one and only, and it's my dye job. See avatar.
Leftybagger
July 24th, 2009, 09:53 PM
Revolution Carolina Bag
175 old school soft bullet XD ( Turn over putter shots )
172-174 Cryztal Z Challenger ( Stable putter approach & Anhyzer float flick )
175 Hard extreme bead Wizard ( Main approach putter )
175 old school Grid Avair ( Main putter )
175 Ring Stamp Gator ( ultimate short range utility disc! )
170 ProLine Gremlin ( Great original Champion/CE plastic! Straight midrange)
175 CFR Glow Fibrid X ( main utility disc, super overstable )
175 Champion Roadrunner ( natural left turning with a hyzer finish, LHBH )
172 Champion Roadrunner ( extreme hyzer flip )
175 1st Run Star Xcaliber ( Long range hyzer flick shots )
175 Star Wraith ( very beat, super straight with hyzer finish )
175 1st Run USDGC Champion Boss ( Forced S flick shots )
175 1st Run Star Destroyer ( Main long range LHBH )
175 CFR Glow Teebird T ( Hyzer fairway driver )
172 ProLine Barstamp Leopard ( Hyzer flip fairway driver )
Zaqcb
July 24th, 2009, 11:03 PM
172 First Run Xcal
173 Champion Boss
172 Star Destroyer
170 Star Destroyer
171 Riot
175 Champion Monarch
175 Cryztal Avenger SS
175 7x KC Pro Whippet
174 11x KC Pro Whippet
171 Star Teebird
174 Champion Teebird
175 Star Teerex
174 Star Teerex
172 2007 CFR Wraith
172 Champion Orc
177 10x Gazelle
177 Full Color Buzzz
176 Full Color Buzzz
180 'Flat Top' Roc
175 Star Spider
168 Pro Line Spider
175 Star Aviar
172 Pro Pig
2x 175 Dx Aviars
REDFIVE
July 24th, 2009, 11:24 PM
Discs
Brian
July 25th, 2009, 01:29 AM
Discs
which ones :)
discdog
July 25th, 2009, 04:25 AM
Just like over the hill Bob my bag is set up for an Old Man
169 Champion Valkyrie
150 Star Valkyrie
150 DX Valkyrie
162 Star Sidewinder
150 Star Sidewinder
150 Champion Sidewinder
171 Z Glide
171 Champion Leopard
147 K C Pro Gazelle
174 ESP Buzzz
175 Pro Rhyno
175 (2) XDs
Its simple but it works
General Scales
July 25th, 2009, 08:19 AM
Downriver claims another disc...:mad: This time a Wasp that I threw off of old hole 6 to the basket of 11. I still think this is the way the course should've thrown in the first place. Just didn't hyzer it enough and it kept going straight:slapface:. Least I got another one just like it to replace it :yay:
REDFIVE
July 25th, 2009, 11:12 AM
which ones :)
3 Aviars
1 aero
4 rocs
2 roadrunners
2 leopards
2 teebirds
1 eagle
1 firebird
1 wraith
1 destroyer
1 teerex
.5 excal
.5 iber
1 boss
4 minis
1 towel
1 bottle bug spray
Assorted fruit
Clif bar- blueberry, carrot cake
Water
Course maps
Keys
Wallet
Cell phone- ringer off
Dust
Dirt
Leaves
Bugs
GettinBetter
July 25th, 2009, 01:33 PM
2 Aviar Drivers
1 Rhyno
1 Pig
1 Gator
1 Cro
2 Rocs
1 Skeeter
1 Leopard
1 Teebird
1 Whippet
1 Beast
1 Orc
1 Groove
1 Boss
1 Xcaliber
1 Monster
1 Mini
PDGA Rule Book
Fingernail clippers
Tape
Sharpie
Crackers
Zone Perfect Bar
H2O
Phone
Wallet
Keys
Dog Bags (Pick up doodoo)
General Scales
July 27th, 2009, 06:21 AM
Bottle Opener
Two Sharpies
Trash Bags
Hand Warmer
Lilac City Open 2008 Ultra Star Mini
Duct Tape
Box Knife
Matches
Band Aids
Disinfectant Wipes
Neosporin
E-Z-E
July 27th, 2009, 03:43 PM
5 Z-Flicks
1 ESP Venom
1 Proto Z Force
1 Ultra Grip Z Surge
1 Z Stalker
2 ESP Buzzz
1 Z Buzzz
1 ESP Zone
2 Soft APX
1 Z Putt'r
2 Apx Swirl
barbikes
July 28th, 2009, 04:16 PM
In my camo Gorilla Boy Chimp I carry golf discs (fast to slow):
160 and 163 R-Pro Boss. The quickest way that I've found to add 30 feet to my 320 foot distance! I thought 160 would be too light. No!
166, 169, 171 MOLS (Orion LS). Various states of wear. Beat, sweet, new. My straight arrow long drivers. Beat also works as a long anny or roller disc.
168 X Xpress. Control annys and BH rollers
177, 176,173 TP Cyclones. Yeah they're OOP. I got backups! Fairway Driver. Beat, sweet, new.
180,179.176 DX Rancho Rocs. Y'all already know about Rocs and you know what I'm gonna say next! Beat, sweet, new.
199 DX Condor. Not OOP (Innova did a run 2/09) but hard to find and yeah I got backups! They fly just like a Roc only more controllable (heavier) and slower but with more glide. Also their large diameter and weight make them great overhand rollers!
175 Omega SS. I've been using this putter for 95% of my putts since 2005. I've tried others but can't find one I like more.
178 Beaver. Overstable putter. If the Omega isn't workin' it's good to be able to pull a Beaver out of the bag!
Other stuff in my bag:
Innova mini/bottle opener/magnet disc
27 Oz Klean Kanteen full of a delicious beverage! (a baseball under the Klean Kanteen if I've been stickin' them in the trees lately!)
Sandpaper
Birdie Beads
10 x 26 Celestron Binoculars inside a RH cotton work glove (I'm LH so if it's cold I wear this glove on my useless RH)
Patagonia Dragonfly Rain jacket
Pencil, Sharpie, Generic scorecards.
LED mini Flashlight
Halls Cough drops (eucalyptus addiction!)
Towel
Cellphone
The Course Bro
July 29th, 2009, 09:05 PM
Revolution Backpack:
Driver Side:
Star Wraith (fresh crispy new)
Champ Groove
Champ Boss
Latitude Striker
Star Wraith (same disc as the fresh crispy new one but 2 years old and WORKED)
Champ Mondarch
Mid/Backup/Special Teams Discs:
Champ Valk
Champ Max
Latitude XXX
Champ Beast
3x Latitude Spike Zero
Putter/Mids:
Latitude Spike Zero (I have four ranging from soft noughty goodness to ultra crispy newness-bad putt? change putters)
Latitude Core (like a roc only better)
Star Gator
Gear:
Score card holder
score cards
pencils
sharpies
water
peanut M & Ms
Extended Gear:
Umbrella
Huk Stool
Machete
Wrist rocket
yep, it weighs a ton but the course is my gym so I lift weights.
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