Add Alternate Pin Placements.

[General Scales]

So I threw my personal best at Highbridge yesterday, a 48 :trophy:. Had a wonderful game but started to think maybe putting in some alternate pins could make the course more challenging. I'm sure this has been discussed before. How hard could it be?:whistler:

[Eric whippet Brown]

If your a SDGA member you can ask the people in charge those questions they could be answered there I would hope.:confused: I know there was a time Downriver was going to get some new pin locations but I dont know what ever happened there, I dont know who told Matt and Troy to dig holes that were never used, but I think who ever told them should do half of the new ones.:laughing: if we ever got any? I think we need to have a fund raiser for new anchors?:yay: But I know that any kind of little tourney you do the SDGA wants there cut (what ever that is):cool2: so there should be plenty of money in the club for anchors? But all in all dont take this from me join the SDGA and look for the answers there.

[General Scales]

Hell I work in a metal shop. Making the sleeves would be easy. The real question is would alternate pins be allowed by the city since it all has to be approved by them before the S.D.G.A approves it (at least I believe it's this way).

Wouldn't it be nice to have 5 further down the hill though? I'm tired 230 foot holes and less. Putters should never be used for drives. Come on S.D.G.A!!! Let us all know.

[Eric whippet Brown]

it would be nice to have 5 down further, but from what I heard is that the parks dept doesnt want us to have any of the holes crossing the queer road. So I dont know how long or if we need to chage those holes around or not. Again if you go to a meeting you can tell them making sleeves for the anchors is easy and you can do it, then maybe the ball would get rolling on new pin placements. It's just trying to get the club going on stuff:headbang:. I have been part of the club for a while and they move slooooooooow to sloooow if you ask me. Cherry hill, Corbin all have alt pin locations and those courses are fairly new? GO IDAHO Wreckreators. So we need more motivation in our club we need to start spending money on improvements, like new tee signs?

[General Scales]

New tee signs would be excellent.

[General Scales]

So the 48 has jinxed me into throwing a 57, a 56 and a 66! :waaah: Play the best game of my life at that course and now start throwing it worse then I was playing it last year:headbang:. Amazing how that seems to happen.

[Gordy #21004]

If your a SDGA member you can ask the people in charge those questions they could be answered there I would hope.:confused: I know there was a time Downriver was going to get some new pin locations but I dont know what ever happened there, I dont know who told Matt and Troy to dig holes that were never used, but I think who ever told them should do half of the new ones.:laughing: if we ever got any? I think we need to have a fund raiser for new anchors?:yay: But I know that any kind of little tourney you do the SDGA wants there cut (what ever that is):cool2: so there should be plenty of money in the club for anchors? But all in all dont take this from me join the SDGA and look for the answers there.

Hi, Eric. I'm the guy who asked Troy and Matt to scope out some new placements at DR. I'm not so good at hole diggen anymore but the spirit is there. I think I can answer a few questions though. Yes, the Club has $ for stuff like this and C-Re or someone should still have 5 or 6 anchors we could use. Yes, this would be a Club decision and compared to a lot of other stuff we're trying to move foward on this could be relativly simple. Remember, HB is waiting for public $ to rebuild the course and the idea is for alt placements to be the location for the new baskets. Again, we, the 'user' group are waiting for action from Parks (not Lyle). In the meantime I don't think it would be that big of a deal for the Club to spend a little bit of $ and effort to provide some new 'looks' for us. Re; Club Cut. We used to have regular weekly events that generated a buck or two per person to the Club. Most recently Cory and Brian Baily ran them. At the same time there have also been non Club events and that is the subject of considerable discussion which I will not elaborate on here. The result is that folks are tired of the debate; don,t want to be a part of it and as a consequence attendance in either type of event is way down. Anyways, those dollar bills from weekly events and membership is where the money for all the stuff installed at the courses comes from. Gordy. PS 4-Mound is open tomorrow, $5/car.

[General Scales]

All I know about this is that it would be so nice to move hole 5, 9, 11, 13, 14, 16 17 and 18. 1 and 2 would also be pretty easy to find alternate pin locations for. Now if it ever happens that is a different story. Making anchors isn't difficult. Especially if you work in a precision sheet metal manufacturer and have an owner who plays disc golf whenever he can get out to a course. Come on SDGA, don't let the Idahoans show us up with their courses and alternate pins (and soon to be alternate pads @ Corbin) on all their courses.

[joeroyer]

I am interested in installing the new anchors at HB. I just need the key to the locks and the anchors themselves. Please let me know. I guess a few bucks from the club for concrete would help too but not be a showstopper.

[Gordy #21004]

I am interested in installing the new anchors at HB. I just need the key to the locks and the anchors themselves. Please let me know. I guess a few bucks from the club for concrete would help too but not be a showstopper.

Joe, Call me. Gordy.

[roadhog]

All I know about this is that it would be so nice to move hole 5, 9, 11, 13, 14, 16 17 and 18. 1 and 2 would also be pretty easy to find alternate pin locations for. Now if it ever happens that is a different story. Making anchors isn't difficult. Especially if you work in a precision sheet metal manufacturer and have an owner who plays disc golf whenever he can get out to a course. Come on SDGA, don't let the Idahoans show us up with their courses and alternate pins (and soon to be alternate pads @ Corbin) on all their courses.

do you realize or care that those of us that golf with our kids and go out just for fun really enjoy the short holes!!!!!! seeing my kids (12 & 14) putt for birdy is great. take out the short holes and you take the fun out of it for a lot of people that are just starting or golf with their families.

[Parks]

Roadhog, I think you should maybe check out Eagle Ridge (http://www.eagleridgewa.com/location.aspx)

My understanding is that there is a small course there with a few short holes.

Why not take the kids out there and play a few rounds?

Alternately, I see you are out in the valley. Corbin Park in Post Falls is about the same drive from there as High Bridge, and it has some great short holes that your kids might like even better.

[roadhog]

played them all in the area. except four mounds and fairchild. I really enjoy the course layout at high bridge. it is actually my favorite couse in the immediate area. some long some short is great on a course. if all the holes are long whats the point of having a FAMILY sport! when new players and families go to play how long do you think they will stick around if they are scoring 6 or 7 per hole because ALL the holes are too long. leave it with some long and some short so that EVERYONE can enjoy it, not just the long throwers!
P.S. theres also a short course in CDA called blue grass. played that too.

[roadhog]

how hard would it be to find land in the area and build a long course? instead of limiting where the average can go and have fun. someone out there has to know of someone with land to do such a thing. build it as long as you want. call it a pro course or long course.

[catalystdg]

The SDGA had its board meeting last night and we decided to go ahead with adding 18 more holes at highbridge nine will be put in over fall and winter and another nine in the spring.( providing we raise the funds to purchase all 18 $7000 or so)

[catalystdg]

played them all in the area. except four mounds and fairchild. I really enjoy the course layout at high bridge. it is actually my favorite couse in the immediate area. some long some short is great on a course. if all the holes are long whats the point of having a FAMILY sport! when new players and families go to play how long do you think they will stick around if they are scoring 6 or 7 per hole because ALL the holes are too long. leave it with some long and some short so that EVERYONE can enjoy it, not just the long throwers!
P.S. theres also a short course in CDA called blue grass. played that too.

adding alternates does not mean making all the holes longer it is just making more places to put the baskets so we can change it up from time to time.
some pins might be longer, some shorter and some just changed so you have to throw a different route.

[roadhog]

the direction that this thread started out is that General Scales and Parks dont want short holes on the course. they want it more challanging for them. more challaging for them means pretty much impossible for average players and kids. Corbin has alternate baskets and it makes it different not necessarily harder or longer, just different. i am all for alternate tees and baskets but leave it a family course where average people and kids can enjoy it also.

[catalystdg]

the direction that this thread started out is that General Scales and Parks dont want short holes on the course. they want it more challanging for them. more challaging for them means pretty much impossible for average players and kids. Corbin has alternate baskets and it makes it different not necessarily harder or longer, just different. i am all for alternate tees and baskets but leave it a family course where average people and kids can enjoy it also.

they never said they don't want short holes. they want to make the course more chalenging for them wich does not neccesarily mean it plays harder for the beginner. adding alternate pins usually does not effect the overall play of a beginner level player most alternate pins are within 30-40 feet of the original(or originall fairway) the most chalanging thing about alternates is that you aren't throwing the same shot every time.

[Parks]

the direction that this thread started out is that General Scales and Parks dont want short holes on the course.

I never said that.

You said you liked playing some of the short holes with your kids at High Bridge because they could birdie them, so I was making sure that you knew there were other courses in the area with short holes. Filtering people to courses that match their skill level is a win for everyone.

Also, my favorite hole at High Bridge is a short hole (#17, it combines aesthetic appeal with multiple fair routes, and a good scoring range), and I think that some of the shorter holes play really well (#5, its a tough landing zone to control, although it is deuce or die).

That being said, I think that High Bridge and Downriver are fairly redundant. The SSA of each course is 48, give or take a stroke. I would like to see one of them get a more challenging layout. Challenging doesn't necessarily equate with long, as catalystdg pointed out.

Also, putting in a new course is actually pretty difficult. We always seem to be able to get some interest from the city/park/whoever and yet new courses never get put in.

As a final note, pretend that every hole at High Bridge remained exactly the same but had 200 feet added to it (obviously not possible, just make believe). Wouldn't you just start 200 feet closer to the pin if your family or group were just beginners? It wouldn't hurt your experience in any way.

[catalystdg]

i have the locations for 17 alt pin locations and we have the anchors so if anyone wants to help installing them let me know
also the north nine is ready for anchors as well

[roadhog]

be glad to help. when and where to meet let me know.

[catalystdg]

we will start digging fri around 10ish and sat around 9 ish nov 13 and 14

[General Scales]

I never said that.

You said you liked playing some of the short holes with your kids at High Bridge because they could birdie them, so I was making sure that you knew there were other courses in the area with short holes. Filtering people to courses that match their skill level is a win for everyone.

Also, my favorite hole at High Bridge is a short hole (#17, it combines aesthetic appeal with multiple fair routes, and a good scoring range), and I think that some of the shorter holes play really well (#5, its a tough landing zone to control, although it is deuce or die).

That being said, I think that High Bridge and Downriver are fairly redundant. The SSA of each course is 48, give or take a stroke. I would like to see one of them get a more challenging layout. Challenging doesn't necessarily equate with long, as catalystdg pointed out.

Also, putting in a new course is actually pretty difficult. We always seem to be able to get some interest from the city/park/whoever and yet new courses never get put in.

As a final note, pretend that every hole at High Bridge remained exactly the same but had 200 feet added to it (obviously not possible, just make believe). Wouldn't you just start 200 feet closer to the pin if your family or group were just beginners? It wouldn't hurt your experience in any way.

Amen to that. I'm not saying make every hole at Highbridge 500 plus feet. That would be retarded. My favorite hole out there is 18 and that is longer but because of the elevation change is reachable by most with a solid drive. I get there with a Buzzz. I'm saying it would be nice to have all the holes have an a and b setup. That way the whole of Spokane isn't playing the same 18 hole over and over.

[General Scales]

we will start digging fri around 10ish and sat around 9 ish nov 13 and 14

I'll try and make it down there Saturday to help with whatever needs it. I won't be out of work on Saturday till noon but I'll fly down there to help.

So if I'm understanding correctly Highbridge is going to become a 36? Does that mean like 18 north and 18 south like say Lakewood or Steliacom. Or is it going to be one continuous loop? That would be epic. Plus does this mean that some of the Chump Challenge 2009 holes are going to become permanent? I sure hope so!!!!:shocked:

[catalystdg]

bring shovels if anyone has a wheelbarrow, 5 gallon buckets. or some spare 2x4s or 4x4s let me know
again 10 am fri nov 13, 9am sat nov 14
thanks

[Eric whippet Brown]

I will bring my camera down tomorrow for the 2nd round of us clearing out fairways and greens, there are some fun new holes that make it more of a challenge which is good:yay: Thanks to everyone that came out and hope to see more on Sat.

[General Scales]

So you guys added nine new pins and poles yesterday? Woohoo!!!:rockon: How do they play with the existing 18 hole and where in the layout were they added?
Are they any of the chump challenge holes?

[Stimpi]

New anchors for most/all of the holes at High Bridge are in concrete, and the baskets will be moved over this week, nine at a time. Some of the holes play harder and a few of them play easier, some play nearly the same but you might finish left instead of right or vice versa. I think the "family fun" value will still be high. None of the new placements are unreasonable, just different, like you might move a hole around on a golf green.
There are 9 new holes scoped out on the west side of A street, starting down by the Riverside, A street, Park Road intersection, and finishes up near the current #11 tee. Most of the anchors are in, but no teepads are built yet. More to come soon.

[Evil T]

Was out there playing today and saw a bunch of the new pin placements, and some of the new holes across the street. I like most of them, but I really like that someone is doing something. If you need help again just leave another post here. Would be cool to find a group in town that's more active. If not maybe I'll go put stairs down on six. Been saying that for years. There's bricks everywhere to do it. Damn it.

[Parks]

Was out there playing today and saw a bunch of the new pin placements, and some of the new holes across the street. I like most of them, but I really like that someone is doing something. If you need help again just leave another post here. Would be cool to find a group in town that's more active. If not maybe I'll go put stairs down on six. Been saying that for years. There's bricks everywhere to do it. Damn it.

Don't bother. My understanding is that 5 and 6 will need their teepads changed eventually since they play across the street.

You would want to talk to catalystdg, but if anywhere needs stairs it would be up to the alt teepad for hole 12. The slick paint on concrete for its current pad isn't that safe, and there are some trees that need trimming for the lower tee that wouldn't affect the upper tee.

[Wobbly Bob]

There was a Spokane Park Board meeting last week that Jeff & Gordy attended. It was stated by Parks the we were not to proceed with the new Creekside Nine at this time. We were however given the Okay for the Nine across A Street. How many second pin positions were installed on the existing course? I want to update the website.

[catalystdg]

there are 7 anchors across "a" street we will have 4 baskets and 5 buckets or tone poles untill spring. if anyone wants to help out let me know, we need to start work on the teepads (just leveling them out)
half the baskets will be moved today and they will be rotated every month or so
thanks go out to everone that helped out.
joe, troy, lyle, eric, shad(and his kids) kevin, tim, cole, christian, shawna, thorton, jeff, and i'm sure there are some i missed
its great to see something happening again its been way to long :)

[Evil T]

there are 7 anchors across "a" street we will have 4 baskets and 5 buckets or tone poles untill spring. if anyone wants to help out let me know, we need to start work on the teepads (just leveling them out)
half the baskets will be moved today and they will be rotated every month or so
thanks go out to everone that helped out.
joe, troy, lyle, eric, shad(and his kids) kevin, tim, cole, christian, shawna, thorton, jeff, and i'm sure there are some i missed
its great to see something happening again its been way to long :)

Just post when you need help. If I'm not working I'll try to be there.

[Parks]

First off, I want to thank Christopher and Jeremy for planning out the alt pins and the holes across A Street, and I want to thank the club for moving forward with it.

My synopsis of the new pins:

Hole 1, 50' past normal pin. I didn't like this at first as I didn't think it changed the shot enough, but playing to the anchor today it does play quit a bit differently. I had to disc up to a driver and throw a big anny, and couldn't reach it with a thumber. The trees definitely make it a different style shot.

Hole 2, pin straight and at tree line of 17's fairway. I like this one, its nothing special really but there isn't really anywhere else to put this pin. It changes the shot and makes it a little less technical for lefties/sidearm throwers. It seems more about range control than anything else now.

Hole 3, pin off to the right on the point in the woods. This pin is fantastic, I think it is very challenging but rewards good drive/upshot placement. There is risk/reward in going for the birdie on this one with the hairy green. You will definitely see scoring variation on this hole in tournaments.

Hole 4, pin off to the left about 50 feet into the woods. This is one of two pins that I'm not a fan of. I think its in the dreaded par 3.5 category. It is possible to bird with a decent amount of power for righties, but lefties don't really have a chance at bird without some ridiculous shot. I think pushing this pin back into the woods another 100 feet or so would make it a nice, fair par 4 where you had to make two well-placed shots for a 3. You could make a single moderate screw-up and get a par 4, and anything beyond that would be bogeyville. I just don't see much scoring variation happening on this hole.

Hole 5, pin 80' to the left of the current pin and down a bit. I like this pin, it requires a tougher shot to birdie than the normal pin, but is still reachable by anyone. There is a righty hyzer route, but it requires good execution to birdie that way. I think this balances out the slight lefty/sidearm bias of the normal pin. As an added bonus, this pin plays the route along path in the alternate old teepad placement for 5. This will come into play if the teepads for 5 and 6 ever get moved across the street.

Hole 6, pin to the right 100' and beyond the treeline. This was the other pin I wasn't a big fan of. I think the routes to the pin are pretty lucky, and you'll see a lot of boring 3's on this hole. All one has to do is avoid the right side of the fairway and its a 3 every time. That being said, I don't really know of a spot for an alt on this hole that changes the shot and makes for an exciting hole.

Hole 7, pin straight down the right side route. I like this pin, as it requires a straight shot through a fair opening. I'm thinking the some of the brush behind the basket should be cleared in order to punish ace runs that are too aggressive by not stopping them, as well as to make a decent size green for this one.

Hole 8, no alt pin. Possibly an alt teepad in the future, a little ways back into the clearing behind the current pad? That would add a some much needed difficulty to this hole.

Hole 9, alt pin back and to the left about 60 feet. I really like this pin placement. There is actually some risk to the hole now, and it requires hitting a good line for birdie.

Hole 10, alt pin back and to the right about 80 feet. This pin might be my favorite. You have to place your drive, then control your upshot onto the hairy green. There is risk reward, as trying to park your drive can leave you with a nasty upshot, and running long birdie putts can leave you without a return putts. A bad drive is punished with a much harder upshot, but a great approach can still save a 3. You will definitely see scoring variation on this hole in tournaments.

Hole 11, alt pin to the left of the road, about as deep as normal pin. I like this one. Its about range control. Too shallow, too deep, or too far left and you don't have a putt, but there is a large, fair green that rewards good drives with a good birdie opportunity.

Hole 12, alt pin to the left 100' and a little deeper. Its a little tougher to hit the right line than the normal placement. A bit righty favoring, while the normal pin has a bit of a lefty bias. Not much else to say.

Hole 13, alt pin through the new fairway on right side. This hole is sweet. You have to play the tunnel, and there are good routes at the end for righties and lefties. For righties, its a gentle hyzer-flip that comes back, and for lefties its a flat hyzer that fades late. This reminds me of hole 6 on the Porcupine course but plays more fairly. I would even go so far as to suggest that there be another alt pin placement added to the left and we could stop using the old pin altogether.

Hole 14, pin on the bump to the left of the path leading to the normal pin. I'm still a bit undecided on this one. I think the normal pin is great since you have to play golf on it if you don't have the power to reach it, and it requires you to hit your line very well to birdie it. This pin on the other hand is a very easy three, and birdieing it just requires a decent amount of power without much care for the lines you use to get there. I guess how I end up feeling on this one will be based on how hard it is to play the green.

Hole 15, alt pin is 3's normal pin. This is a good one. It requires hitting a late gap, and its unwise to overdrive this hole. This is not the official alt, I forget who told me it was. There currently isn't an alt for 15.

Hole 16, alt pin is straighter and deeper than the normal pin. This one is fun, it requires a long, somewhat straight drive to birdie. Can easily leave you with a 4 if your drive is poorly placed. It plays sort of like Hawk 4 in this position. This one will probably have a good scoring range in tournaments.

Hole 17, alt pin is 50 feet to the right of the current position. This one forces you to throw a straighter shot than the other position, but is more forgiving of skips from shots that hyzer in.

Hole 18, no alt pin. I don't see a good place for an alt pin on this one. There could be a good place for an alt teepad, but safety could be an issue.

[General Scales]

Thank you for the update on all the new pins. I love the sound of 13's new route. Definitely going to hit it up on Saturday afternoon.

Are the baskets going to rotate on a monthly basis say like Cherry Hill or Corbin? Or is it going to be a move half the baskets and half the next month to keep the new layouts fresh as humanly possible?

Either way I'm frickin stoked that something has been done to modify the course.

[Eric whippet Brown]

The idea of alt 15 in 3's pin location I think is going to be a big problem with people playing hole 3. If your drive (rhbh) off 15 went straight and didn't hyzer out it would go for 3's alt and throwing (lhbh) could drive into 3's fairway there. plus the fact that people will probably play 15's alt from 3's tee like it was normal 3? We should try to get some sort of alt tee's signs up soon so we can stop any confusion out there now. But all in all it is fun to play a different layout. Played it 3 times now and have only posted a 5 down so far, I think I will go play it tomorrow.

[catalystdg]

alt hole 15 does not play to 3's basket. (if this is the way its set up please let me know)
hole 15 does not have an alt pin at this time.
hole 5 and 6 teepads will be moved so they will no longer be throwing over the road. hole 1 could potentialy be moved as well if the telephone pole gets hit very often.

[General Scales]

So are all the baskets that have alt pins moved at this time? If not which ones are so I can play them accordingly when I head there tomorrow.

Also, the new nine at A street, any tee markings?

[catalystdg]

went down and played today trying to iron out what will be the a and b placements and i should have a map ready soon.
hole 4 is probably one of my favorite holes on the course and once it gets thinned out a little it will play a lot better for the biginner level players, right now if you can throw 275 -325 straight and a 100 -125 ft upshot its a easy par but if you try to hyzer( rhbh) of the tee and you cant throw a 425 ft hyzer you will bogey or worse, its actually an almost exact mirror of new 10 ( just a little thicker with small trees)
also got some good news and bad news... we will not have the holes we just put in across "a" street :( but we will be able to use all of peoples park and the area between riverside, gov. way and the creek.

[Timber]

What happened? I thought Parks and Rec was on board for A Street.

[Parks]

Will there be a work party to do some clearing around some of the alt pins?

9 in specific could use a lot of work.

[Gordy #21004]

First the bad news> we jumped the gun a little on the new hole placements, we will need to remove those anchors...but the good news is that after meeting with City Parks, there are other areas for more expansion. The place we had was in the middle of the new dog park. Please come to the meeting
at Stadium Pizza Sunday Nov 22 @ 6 pm where Jeff Crum and Board members will report on their progress with the City, and where we go from here.
Jaymie

[Gordy #21004]

What happened? I thought Parks and Rec was on board for A Street.

In our initial discussions following thr Park Board meeting it was all good except for mentioning there's a big deal dog-walking park on board for the area just west of A St. How this is instructive to us is that there are lots of other interest groups that have their eye on the same ground we are vying for. I'm not kidding. These groups are far more vested in their projects than we are and yet we enjoy an actual installation and they're still working for one. Does anyone in this organization actually value what we have verses those who are better funded, better organized and far more mainstream than us still have yet not achieved? Take a minute to think about that and get back to me. G.:waaah::waaah:

[joeroyer]

First the bad news> we jumped the gun a little on the new hole placements, we will need to remove those anchors...but the good news is that after meeting with City Parks, there are other areas for more expansion. The place we had was in the middle of the new dog park. Please come to the meeting
at Stadium Pizza Sunday Nov 22 @ 6 pm where Jeff Crum and Board members will report on their progress with the City, and where we go from here.
Jaymie

To clarify, the ALT placements will stay. It is only the new pins for the additional 9 holes on the west side of "A-Street" that are going to be removed. Please do not attempt to play these holes.

[General Scales]

So thanks to every single person that had a hand in putting in or designing alt pin placements for Highbridge:bowing:! It brought a breath of much needed fresh air to the course.

So here are the thoughts about the new pins.

1.) Loved it.
2.) Love it and almost aced it! Hit the rim with an Elite Z Buzzz.
3.) Didn't see any alt layout. Probably to keep from confusing people who don't know already about the new layout?
4.) Loved it! Threw two discs and par'd both of em. Albeit, one was much prettier and required way less luck.
5.) Love it and probably my favorite. I came out with a one over!:waaah: It's definitely about range control as I totally overthrew it.
6.) Meh, i'll probably love this one but it's practically impossible to see from the actual fairway. Got a one over and was happy to take it since I threw it blind.
7.) Loved it. Definitely see why the bushes behind the basket should be removed. Would've been a hard par if it wouldn't of been for them. Instead it was a nice deuce and I see a lot of aces happening here.
9.) Can take it or leave it. Didn't change my normal par in any way so no biggie to me.
10.) Love it but think that a little bit of clearing around the approach area would make it a much more playable hole for those that aren't as zealous about their disc golf.
11.) Like 9. Didn't change my score.
12.) Woohoo!! Love it and definitely worth the anguish it caused my friend.
13.) Wasn't in place when I was there.
14.) Wasn't in place when I was there.
16.) Meh. Not my fave but then again it never was.
17.) Alright but definite right hand side arm or left hand backhand favoring. Then again there isn't much place for it to go.

Good job and I look forward to seeing the other few alts.

[Wobbly Bob]

Well put Joe, Please do not go across A Street and practice the holes that will never be there.

[catalystdg]

i will go down this morning and move teepads for 5 and 6 and possibly clear the greens on 7 and 9
i will also move 1s tee so the pole is not in the way

[catalystdg]

here is a rough draft of the work that we still have to complete

Highbridge park disc golf course

1. Complete final three alternate pins ( holes 8, 15 and 18 ) and replace anchors on
alternates for 13 & 14.

2. Measure and map both A and B layouts.

3. Repair teesigns and install kiosk at hole 1 and install “next tee” signs where needed

4. Grade and secure teepads.

5. Repair and prevent erosion on holes 5,6,15 and 18

[Gordy #21004]

[QUOTE=catalystdg;45200]here is a rough draft of the work that we still have to complete

Highbridge park disc golf course

1. Complete final three alternate pins ( holes 8, 15 and 18 ) and replace anchors on
alternates for 13 & 14.

2. Measure and map both A and B layouts.

3. Repair teesigns and install kiosk at hole 1 and install “next tee” signs where needed

4. Grade and secure teepads.

5. Repair and prevent erosion on holes 5,6,15 and 18[/QWhat kind of materials do you need for the work on item #5? Gordy.

[Parks]

here is a rough draft of the work that we still have to complete

Highbridge park disc golf course

1. Complete final three alternate pins ( holes 8, 15 and 18 ) and replace anchors on
alternates for 13 & 14.

2. Measure and map both A and B layouts.

3. Repair teesigns and install kiosk at hole 1 and install “next tee” signs where needed

4. Grade and secure teepads.

5. Repair and prevent erosion on holes 5,6,15 and 18

6??? Move the normal 13 pin short and to the left of the alt pin (big green area) since the normal position is kind of a nothing hole. This will make use of the fairway that was cleared for the alt, and allow this area to regrow. Good idea/bad idea?

Also, why would 8 get an alternate pin? It seems more fitting to make an alternate teepad back behind the current one since there is plenty of room and some decent lines (assuming we can use that area).

18 could also possibly benefit from an alternate teepad instead of a pin.

Also, a good system for indicating the current layout could be implemented at the hole 1 kiosk and the hole 11 tee sign. Basically, you have a place that says A layout on the left and a place that says B layout on the right. Below them are those hook eye screws (see picture). Then you just tie a ziptie through the screw that is below the current layout.

This system is cheap, easy, easy to understand, and vandals can't change which layout is being indicated like with some systems. It was the best way that I could find from posting a thread asking about it on another forum: http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15558
http://img.alibaba.com/photo/52358972/hook_eye_screw.jpg

[catalystdg]

moving hole 13 i agree with but is something that needs to be brought up at the next meeting. hole 8 will get a alt pin as well as an alt tee( with just an alt tee hole 9 teepad becomes a problem) hole 18 is something that needs discussed( i really don't have any ideas)
as for identifing which layout is in play your basically on the same page as what we were discussing at the meeting

[Scott]

Hellyer Park in San Jose uses something similar to indicate pin positions. Basically there was a hole on the sign next to each pin positon and a bolt (with locking nut) in the correct hole. That was really cool.

[Parks]

Hellyer Park in San Jose uses something similar to indicate pin positions. Basically there was a hole on the sign next to each pin positon and a bolt (with locking nut) in the correct hole. That was really cool.

I heard some people comment that idiots would take the bolts. Less incentive to take a ziptie since once you break it you can't use it.

[Scott]

I heard some people comment that idiots would take the bolts. Less incentive to take a ziptie since once you break it you can't use it.

The ones I saw were locking bolts - pretty tough to get off.

[Wobbly Bob]

:yay: Here are the notes from Jeff's latest trip to the Park's Dept. :yay:

[Sky Pilot]

:yay: Here are the notes from Jeff's latest trip to the Park's Dept. :yay:
Thanks Bob.
Actually I didn't go to the Park Department - But I did go somewhere with a Park Department official that was very encouraging:jumpspin:... Check out the article and you'll see what I mean...

[Timber]

Sweet :cheers: I'd be all over a course at Sekani since it's like ten minutes from my house :D

There seems to be something wrong with the file format on your report, however. I converted it to a PDF which might be more easily viewable: