June 13th Pier Park: 7th Annual Greener Horizons Disc Golf Open benefitting the BTA

[Joshua Olmsted]

So I was told by the tournament TD that I could post up the announcement of the upcoming BTA 7th Annual Greener Horizons Disc Golf Open.

Event Information.
The event will be a PDGA sanctioned C-tier event.

Registration is currently open through PDGA online registration.
http://snipurl.com/j68bz
Registration is capped at 72 players, and sign-ups will be held day of if the event doesn't fill in advance.

Divisions:
*****EDIT******
No Pro divisions
*****EDIT******

Advanced Men (MA1) -- $40
Advanced Women (FW1) -- $30

Intermediate Men (MA2) -- $25
Recreational Men (MA3) -- $20
Intermediate Women (FW2) -- $20
Recreational Women (FW3) -- $15

Ace pot is optional and is $2
Hole sponsorship is $25 a hole.

The tournament is being held at Pier Park on Saturday June 13th
Check in is at 10AM, first round begins at 11AM

There will be two rounds, shotgun start. There will be a party after the event, location is currently TBA, at 6PM.

The majority of proceeds are going towards the Bicycle Transportation Alliance.

I don't currently know specifics regarding prizes and payout according to the TD they're being worked out currently.

Here is a link to the current flier for the event.
http://snipurl.com/j697c

Questions can be directed to the tournament director Phil Richman at (503) 522-8025 or at philrichman@coloradoalum.org.

[Brody Cannon]

No MA1??

[DanZ]

Two rounds and the first round starts at 11. Then there will be a party at 6? Interesting...

Will registration be allowed on the day of the event?

[ZacAttack]

Any discs included in the fees?

[Scott]

I played this tournament a couple of years ago and wasn't too impressed.

There were three divisions - Novice, Intermediate, and "Ringer". The cost was $20.00 per person and there were no payouts. The first place finisher in each division got a disc - not a trophy disc, just a random disc. I think some of them were used. There was really no order - you just showed up, paid your money, and then went out to play. The park was not reserved for the day, which led to conflicts with the usual summer Saturday afternoon crowd at Pier. When we finished, there was nobody there to take our scorecard - we had to turn it in at the players party which was held in a bar several miles away. Since Matthew was with me, he had to wait outside. To summarize, the guys who ran this tournament were not avid golfers and did not seem to understand all of the little things to that go into a tournament to make it run smoothly.

I'm really perplexed about why the tournament is PDGA sanctioned this year. When I played, 95% of the participants were bike enthusiasts supporting the cause. Very few had ever golfed more than a couple of times and would seemingly not care at all about the PDGA.

I'm not trying to be negative and bash somebody's efforts, although it must sound that way. I would just like to recommend to anyone who is considering this tournament to call the TD and ask questions to make sure you get the tournament experience you are expecting.

[Flash]

I played this tournament a couple of years ago and wasn't too impressed.

There were three divisions - Novice, Intermediate, and "Ringer". The cost was $20.00 per person and there were no payouts. The first place finisher in each division got a disc - not a trophy disc, just a random disc. I think some of them were used. There was really no order - you just showed up, paid your money, and then went out to play. The park was not reserved for the day, which led to conflicts with the usual summer Saturday afternoon crowd at Pier. When we finished, there was nobody there to take our scorecard - we had to turn it in at the players party which was held in a bar several miles away. Since Matthew was with me, he had to wait outside. To summarize, the guys who ran this tournament were not avid golfers and did not seem to understand all of the little things to that go into a tournament to make it run smoothly.

I'm really perplexed about why the tournament is PDGA sanctioned this year. When I played, 95% of the participants were bike enthusiasts supporting the cause. Very few had ever golfed more than a couple of times and would seemingly not care at all about the PDGA.

I'm not trying to be negative and bash somebody's efforts, although it must sound that way. I would just like to recommend to anyone who is considering this tournament to call the TD and ask questions to make sure you get the tournament experience you are expecting.

Scott,

This post seems a little harsh given you have not contacted the TD either. The event director came out to the last Stumptown meeting and presented all of this information at the meeting and it is in the meeting minutes.

Also don't forget these guys are not die hard disc golfers, they are bike enthusiasts that are trying to support the BTA by running a fundraiser disc golf event. They have listened to disc golfers of past and have gone the route of making the event more official, sanctioned, insured and properly run. I think they realize that the other bike enthusiasts are not their target audience so they are going the way of the die hard golfers. The event is at Pier Park and would be a great primer for the Rose City Open. It is a one day event and two rounds for those who can not make a two day event.

[Scott]

Scott,

This post seems a little harsh given you have not contacted the TD either. The event director came out to the last Stumptown meeting and presented all of this information at the meeting and it is in the meeting minutes.

Also don't forget these guys are not die hard disc golfers, they are bike enthusiasts that are trying to support the BTA by running a fundraiser disc golf event. They have listened to disc golfers of past and have gone the route of making the event more official, sanctioned, insured and properly run. I think they realize that the other bike enthusiasts are not their target audience so they are going the way of the die hard golfers. The event is at Pier Park and would be a great primer for the Rose City Open. It is a one day event and two rounds for those who can not make a two day event.

As I mentioned, I wasn't trying to be negative but I understand that it reads that way. I tried very hard to remain objective - everything I stated was a simple factual statement about how the tournament was run.

Actually, I just re-read my post and noticed there is one statement that is opinion based: "To summarize, the guys who ran this tournament were not avid golfers and did not seem to understand all of the little things to that go into a tournament to make it run smoothly."

I did not slam the organizers, and I did not tell anyone that they should stay away. I stand by my recomendation that anyone considering this event should contact the TD to make sure they are getting the experience they are expecting. I did not contact the TD because I do not intend to play this event.

[whslaxplayer11]

i know its a benefit tourney, but what am i getting out of it if i pay 35$ for this?
i.e. players packs or discs or anything?

[Flash]

i know its a benefit tourney, but what am i getting out of it if i pay 35$ for this?
i.e. players packs or discs or anything?

Perhaps you could contact the TD and then respond back here with the answers to the questions you have asked.

[JMan]

i know its a benefit tourney, but what am i getting out of it if i pay 35$ for this?
i.e. players packs or discs or anything?
Why is it always about what folks get for their entry? What you get is the chance to compete and help out, I thought that's what you wanted, now you want more? discs, etc. If you want discs for your 35 bucks go to NA, DGD and get some, you want to compete, pay your entry, and compete; I swear, greedy bastards. Ask yourself, why do you play this game, if it's all about the trinkets and stuff you get for players pacs you may want to re-think what is most likely another in a long string of bad, uninformed decisions dating back to high school.

Educate your thinking

[Scott]

Why is it always about what folks get for their entry? What you get is the chance to compete and help out, I thought that's what you wanted, now you want more? discs, etc. If you want discs for your 35 bucks go to NA, DGD and get some, you want to compete, pay your entry, and compete; I swear, greedy bastards. Ask yourself, why do you play this game, if it's all about the trinkets and stuff you get for players pacs you may want to re-think what is most likely another in a long string of bad, uninformed decisions dating back to high school.

Educate your thinking

What's wrong with asking what you get for your money? I call that being an informed consumer. Many folks enjoy getting something for their money other than competition - perhaps a series of top-notch tournaments in our area have spoiled us all - but that doesn't make them bad people. Don't they have a right to an opinion that is not the same as yours?

[Flash]

i know its a benefit tourney, but what am i getting out of it if i pay 35$ for this?
i.e. players packs or discs or anything?
What's wrong with asking what you get for your money? I call that being an informed consumer. Many folks enjoy getting something for their money other than competition - perhaps a series of top-notch tournaments in our area have spoiled us all - but that doesn't make them bad people. Don't they have a right to an opinion that is not the same as yours?

This following quote would lead me to believe that the focus would be to minimize costs and transfer the majority of the money to the Bicycle Transportation Alliance. So you get to compete in a official one day PDGA sanctioned event at Pier Park and you get to help out a worthy cause. I think I also remember Rich mentioning at the Stumptown meeting that BTA was throwing in some prizes or something like that. I hope we hear more to clear up the issue.


The majority of proceeds are going towards the Bicycle Transportation Alliance.

[whslaxplayer11]

im a 19 year old college student, so paying 35$ to compete without getting any discs ect in return is kind of steep.
So of course i am going to ask what we get out of it because im not gonna blow $35 to compete and support the BTA or w/e it is when i could be working, or playing with friends for free or a million other things

[JMan]

You just don't get it Scott, for 35 you get to compete, thats it, that should be enough. Now if they were informed consumers they sure as hell wouldn't shell out 2 cents, let alone 35 bucks, to play this game. And as for opinions other than mine, shit Scott I've been married to the same woman for 26 years, believe me I hear lots of opinons other than mine. Don't make me switch this conversation to fairway manners, cause then Scott you lose for sure, after all you were the one who trashed these guys. I'm standing up for thier effort, not you greedy whiners who just gotta get more than the opportunity to measure your wangers.

[Scott]

You just don't get it Scott, for 35 you get to compete, thats it, that should be enough. Now if they were informed consumers they sure as hell wouldn't shell out 2 cents, let alone 35 bucks, to play this game. And as for opinions other than mine, shit Scott I've been married to the same woman for 26 years, believe me I hear lots of opinons other than mine. Don't make me switch this conversation to fairway manners, cause then Scott you lose for sure, after all you were the one who trashed these guys. I'm standing up for thier effort, not you greedy whiners who just gotta get more than the opportunity to measure your wangers.

You and I are not on the same page here. Hell, we're not even reading the same book. I don't understand what is wrong with wanting to know what you get for your money. Competition only? Fine. For some people, that works. Others may expect more. That doesn't make them greedy whiners.

I never trashed anyone. I stated facts relating to tournaments that were run in the past. I have nothing against the organizers, their cause, or their right to hold a tournament.

[JMan]

Whatever Scott, they seemed pretty clear about what you get for your 35, the benefit of helping the BTA raise money for their cause, and a sanctioned pdga tourney for ratings based players. Seems pretty damn laid out to me. If you ask for more than what they claimed, greedy. Seems like a great way to support the organization that helps keep PDX one of the most bike friendly cities in the US. I bock when doing the right thing requires applause. Different book, thankful of that my friend.

[jabberjawsteve]

Wow, I sure don't miss the jerks!
ask a question- get yelled at... that's disc golf in Portland for ya-
Hey! it's for a cause-
so go, shell out the dough- maybe even win something-
all this bitching and nobody has contacted the TD to get the facts-
even the person posting the information seems uninformed:laughing:
way to go-- clearly you :rockon:

[The_tautermerizor]

I signed up for this tourny as soon as I saw it. First, it benifits cyclists in Portland. Second, it is an inexpensive pdga sanctioned tourny. Third, there should be some fun people in attendance. People who enjoy our beautiful environment. And if most of the competitors are not that good at dsic golf, that's fine too because I'll have less competition.

[Magilla]

I don't understand what is wrong with wanting to know what you get for your money. Competition only? Fine. For some people, that works. Others may expect more.

All this "Talk" is really lame........:puke:

As a PDGA event, there ARE minimum requirements for payouts.
ANYONE who has ever run OR helped run a PDGA event would/should know that.
As stated before by others, MAYBE people should contact the TD for the answers they are looking for instead of speculating on a forum.
:headbang:

When I was first approached about this event I figured that MOST would be excited to have ANOTHER PDGA event at Pier Park.

"Whats in it for me" is NOT the attitude needed in this case. :shocked:

Play on!

:cheers:

[TreeLove]

No MA1??

Geez, Brody, playing Pro in a non-sanctioned event isn't the end of the world...

Going home empty-handed after a tournament is not the end of the world...

Not getting the disc you want in a grudge match is not the end of the world....

Get a grip son, your play is plenty good, just believe in yourself, you're a pro on the inside, whether you want to play for money or not (LL excepted: everyone plays for cash there!)

Nice 31 at Lunchtime tonight - you've got the LL 2009 (http://www.lunchtime.us) record for now, and matched my lifetime PB on that layout....

[Brody Cannon]

Geez, Brody, playing Pro in a non-sanctioned event isn't the end of the world...

Going home empty-handed after a tournament is not the end of the world...

Not getting the disc you want in a grudge match is not the end of the world....

Get a grip son, your play is plenty good, just believe in yourself, you're a pro on the inside, whether you want to play for money or not (LL excepted: everyone plays for cash there!)

Nice 31 at Lunchtime tonight - you've got the LL 2009 (http://www.lunchtime.us) record for now, and matched my lifetime PB on that layout....

First of all, I'm a jobless teen and I don't have money to be throwing away left and right. If I'm going to pay to play then I want a chance of getting my money back especially if I shoot the best round yet the handicap systems still don't place me in the top 2 (assuming you're talking about LL).

Second, this event IS PDGA and I want to play in the division that I have a fair chance of placing in the top, especially since it costs like $35! Also, since it's PDGA I just assumed it would have MA1 since it has all the other divisions!

And about the whole grudge match thing LAST YEAR that you just brought up, I sometimes feel that I deserve winning more than some meth-head that gets a lucky bounce in ace and picks the only disc that I was interested in when he knew NOTHING about it and hadn't even heard of it.

Sorry for going off topic on this thread but i feel attacked by reading that last post

[Darr]

First of all, I'm a jobless teen and I don't have money to be throwing away left and right. If I'm going to pay to play then I want a chance of getting my money back especially if I shoot the best round yet the handicap systems still don't place me in the top 2 (assuming you're talking about LL).


Wait a minute.. Stern let you bag in advanced after EVERYONE knows you played PRO at the one week you played at LL last year. Yet you are still bitching??? :slapface::slapface::laughing::laughing::laughing: :laughing:
What a spoiled little ....! :nono:

[Sam]

Benefit cyclists?!? They already have those stupid green boxes that stop me from turning right on a red light. Now they want money, too?!?

/sarcasm

Hey Pat... easy man. Whether you agree or not, I don't think that there is any reason to devolve into name-calling. That won't help the cyclists at all.

[E-ROC]

Brody has a good point. Being that this is a sanctioned event (which seems ridiculous because the PDGA is still profiting off the "benefit") if Brody plays pro and accepts cash (if that is a prize) then he would have to move up to pro indefinately. I would not risk having to move up becuase of an event like this and personally want to earn it during say an A or B tier event.

This event is marketed more like a benefit and is probably looking to be more of an intorduciton to disc golf and tournament play and not a full on competitive event. If you are that competitive and are worried about a rating then I would not play. If you can seperate your competitive side with the actual FUN involved with disc golf then come out and play a beautiful course and contribute to the "benefit" at the same time.

[Flash]

Benefit cyclists?!? They already have those stupid green boxes that stop me from turning right on a red light. Now they want money, too?!?

/sarcasm

Hey Pat... easy man. Whether you agree or not, I don't think that there is any reason to devolve into name-calling. That won't help the cyclists at all.

I have contacted the TD and have had several emails back and forth with Phil and he has been very forth coming with information. They are talking about adding the MA1/FW1 divisions to the mix, they also have prizes to award and a regional trophy that will have the winners names inscribed on the pedestal. Pay out will not be like what people are used to, they are taking donations for prizes and then all money collected outside of the fees will go to the BTA, as in this is a fund raiser for the BTA. If you are looking to collect 2 times your entry fee in prizes it might not happen.

Last year the after party was at Hop Works and is all age friendly so I am not sure what Scott was referring to in a previous post.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Wow! Lets all take a time out here! Slow down, take a deep breath, relax, step back, and calm down. Please! :)

We are filling tournaments at a record pace. Lots of opportunities but we do need more tournaments. We have a group here that is trying (trying) to put on an event for a good cause and we are blowing things way out of the water. We need to thank them and support them as best we can. You don't feel like raising money for cycling is your thing? Don't play! You don't want to play if there is no monetary value in it for you? Don't play! If I only played disc golf in events that I could win something in, I wouldn't be playing much. That's just me though! For me, I like to think that my entry helps to run a tounament so that others have an opportunity to play, now, and in the future. If we didn't have dedicated people putting on the events we would still be throwing frisbees at trees. Lets not allienate a group that is trying to do the right thing.

Scott mentioned that he had played in this very tournament before and wasn't too impressed. I also played that day! Scott asked me to join himself, his son, and another friend, and play the event. I was apprehensive, and told him that at my skill level we didn't have a chance. Scott is the one who told me it wasn't about winning something it was supporting a cause. This was my FIRST tournament and I will always have fond memories of a competitive round of golf with friends and knowing that I helped to support a worthy cause. Was it a Beaver State Fling or even a Stumptown Slosh? Not close! It's been two years and the guys are trying very hard to make it a much more main stream experience. We need to give them all of the support we can.

Stumptown is working in an advisory capacity to assist them as best we can. This is their first attempt to make the event a PDGA sanctioned tournament. There are and will be snags along the way. Please be patient!

I don't have a problem with questions about do I get anything for my entry fee, like a players pack. I understand also that many do not have the money to just pay into a fund raiser. That's ok, and there is nothing wrong with that. I myself have to be more carefull this year and pick and choose the events that I play in for finacial reasons. So here I am, volunteering and helping run more events than I play in.

From Sales and Marketing class: Don't sell the bells and whistles, or rather don't sell what it DOES, sell what it does for YOU. In this case, your money isn't buying you a disc, scrip, or cash payout, your money is buying you a chance to play in a PDGA sanctioned event AND helping to make the planet a better place by supporting cycling in our area.

I'm sure Phil and his team would love to have some help at the event, if you can't or don't want to play. If you can't afford to play just for the sake of helping out, you still can make a difference by being there and helping.

Long ramble sorry!
Bob

[Scott]

Last year the after party was at Hop Works and is all age friendly so I am not sure what Scott was referring to in a previous post.

I was referring to two years ago, when it was at Belmont Station.

[Sam]

I remember Pinkal beating Ladd Klink to win this thing like... 4 years ago? It's not really a tournament as much as a fundraiser though you wouldn't have known that from Ladd's reaction to losing. The PDGA sanctioning is a bit of a surprise but the party afterwards was fun. I think we had to buy our own beer, though...

[TreeLove]

Attack? That's not what I was going for. Challenge? That was my intent.

Statements like "your play is plenty good", "you're a pro on the inside", "nice 31 at Lunchtime", "you've got the record", and "matched my PB" are not exactly attacks, either...

I am just trying to convince you that golf is not about how much material goods you take home. It's about exceeding your own expectations, beating your contemporaries, but mostly about having fun!

[JMan]

I am just trying to convince you that golf is not about how much material goods you take home. It's about exceeding your own expectations, beating your contemporaries, but mostly about having fun!
well said

[Pizzel]

I remember Pinkal beating Ladd Klink to win this thing like... 4 years ago? It's not really a tournament as much as a fundraiser though you wouldn't have known that from Ladd's reaction to losing. The PDGA sanctioning is a bit of a surprise but the party afterwards was fun. I think we had to buy our own beer, though...Yah! I had a great time that day. The event was very informal, but the price was considerably less. Most in the group I went with drank more than their entry fee in the free Terminal Gravity provided at the players party. Good times!

As for this year......I don't plan to attend as $45 seems steep. It might be different if I felt a strong need to support the organization running the event. If the event goes well this year, then I am sure I will reconsider in the future.

[Brody Cannon]

Wait a minute.. Stern let you bag in advanced after EVERYONE knows you played PRO at the one week you played at LL last year. Yet you are still bitching??? :slapface::slapface::laughing::laughing::laughing: :laughing:
What a spoiled little ....! :nono:


Ya well I wasn't happy about it last year either! Why do you think I never came back?! I was pissed that YOU took me out of intermediate and placed me in pro after playing for only like 10 months! I've never played "PRO" and thereby it's NOT fair that I have to take the higher pro handicap. In fact, I JUST made the step up to advanced less than 2 months ago..

[Brody Cannon]

I am just trying to convince you that golf is not about how much material goods you take home. It's about exceeding your own expectations, beating your contemporaries, but mostly about having fun!

That may be the way you think about it but I love disc golf enough to know that I can do that whenever I want at Greenway. I come to leagues to have a chance at winning because that's just how I am. There is nothing wrong with being competitive and because I'm so competitive I will become a better player. The reason I've gotten so good in a short time is because I challenge myself every time I play and I keep a competitive attitude wether I'm playing a noob or a pro.

[Carie CPink]

I remember Pinkal beating Ladd Klink to win this thing like... 4 years ago? It's not really a tournament as much as a fundraiser though you wouldn't have known that from Ladd's reaction to losing. The PDGA sanctioning is a bit of a surprise but the party afterwards was fun. I think we had to buy our own beer, though...

I remember that day! It was the first time I met you...and I think I thoroughly offended you :)

And no, the beverages were free. IPA...yum!

[Discdogs]

the sausage guy is working t with the tournament to ensure prizes FOOD and fun

[Sam]

I remember that day! It was the first time I met you...and I think I thoroughly offended you :)

YEAH YOU DID! I was like, "This chick is COOL!" :laughing:

And no, the beverages were free. IPA...yum!

I remember that now that Jason mentioned it. Why do I always have a hard time remembering the free IPA? :chinscratch:

[TreeLove]

Brody, you are still taking it way too seriously. You got the same treatment as every other player. You are the only one I hear complaining about their initial handicap. It's just an estimate for goodness sakes. Anyone shooting 31 at Lunchtime is going to get a handicap larger than 3.1 or 4.8, for that matter. Lighten up a little bit. The word "Pro" is just a label at League, it's just a way to assign an initial handicap, we are all in the same division at League. There are many players with ratings lower than yours that start at Pro, myself included. Believe me, this will be the last year you will get an initial handicap lower than anyone else's, your quality play merits nothing less! It's just an INITIAL handicap anyway, 2 weeks and then your play must stand on its own....

[jabberjawsteve]

how does it take the oldest golfer to put the thread right?
oh yeah, it's because he's cool!:rockon:
jabber

[smobro]

"The reason I've gotten so good in a short time is because I challenge myself every time I play and I keep a competitive attitude wether I'm playing a noob or a pro."

Remember Luke, you may win but if you lose a friend then you gain nothing. Winning not always matter as much as respect, dignity, friendship matter. watch your ego young Jedi. The force is strong in you but hurt your relationships it will. Many great Jedi's never became what they could because of their pride and selfishness. Use the force. Beware of the dark side.

your friend,

Smobiwan

[zippyboy]

Nicely put, sir. There are many times where age speaks volumes on this forum.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

"The reason I've gotten so good in a short time is because I challenge myself every time I play and I keep a competitive attitude wether I'm playing a noob or a pro."

Remember Luke, you may win but if you lose a friend then you gain nothing. Winning not always matter as much as respect, dignity, friendship matter. watch your ego young Jedi. The force is strong in you but hurt your relationships it will. Many great Jedi's never became what they could because of their pride and selfishness. Use the force. Beware of the dark side.

your friend,

Smobiwan

Well put brother! :yay:

Bob

[uomey]

A great tournament for a good local organization.

Bicycle Transportation Alliance http://bta4bikes.org/

See attached for flier.

C Tier PDGA event
10:00 check in
11:00 Start.
Pier Park
June 13h
Sign up at PDGA website
$15 - $40 depending on division.

Online sign-up is recommended.
http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1242716505

[Scott]

Threads combined.

[Joshua Olmsted]

I have to ask, why the removal of the pro divisions? Not that it bothers me too much being MA2 and all.

[duckbuff]

Come on out next Saturday the 13th, please see the attached flyer. PLEASE do everyone a favor and sign up online via www.pdgasignup.com Doing so will save us all a lot of time and hassle on Saturday.

NOTE: All tournament entry fees are being sent to the Bicycle Transportation Alliance. Although there are no fancy t-shirts or bags of discs this IS an event to feel good about!

Every participant will get at least 1 Mini (2 if just joining the PDGA) and be in the drawing for various other prizes thanks to Disc Golf Depot, Huklab and others! Winners will win discs (Ace Pot, Closest to the Pin, Long Drive) & Division winner will have their name enscribed on the traveling trophy alongside those victorious in the past.

Any questions? Wanna help out or donate prizes/shwag? Just give me a shout! Phil Richman 503-522-8025

[Scott]

Come on out next Saturday the 13th, please see the attached flyer. PLEASE do everyone a favor and sign up online via www.pdgasignup.com Doing so will save us all a lot of time and hassle on Saturday.

NOTE: All tournament entry fees are being sent to the Bicycle Transportation Alliance. Although there are no fancy t-shirts or bags of discs this IS an event to feel good about!

Every participant will get at least 1 Mini (2 if just joining the PDGA) and be in the drawing for various other prizes thanks to Disc Golf Depot, Huklab and others! Winners will win discs (Ace Pot, Closest to the Pin, Long Drive) & Division winner will have their name enscribed on the traveling trophy alongside those victorious in the past.

Any questions? Wanna help out or donate prizes/shwag? Just give me a shout! Phil Richman 503-522-8025


This post moved from its own thread to this existing thread.

[duckbuff]

The registration list has been updated as of this morning. If you have specific questions/concerns or have something to contribute to help make this a successful event please get in touch with me 503-522-8025 or philrichman@coloradoalum.org

[duckbuff]

Link to online registration: http://www.pdga.com/event?TournID=8711

[Joshua Olmsted]

I'm all signed up, Yay!:yay: I can't wait to get out there. Everyone else, please consider coming out, the BTA is a great group, and I'd love some company from some forum folks. Online registration ends tonight at 8PM.:cheers:

[Joshua Olmsted]

I'm all signed up, Yay!:yay: I can't wait to get out there. Everyone else, please consider coming out, the BTA is a great group, and I'd love some company from some forum folks. Online registration ends tonight at 8PM.:cheers:

I'd like to say first thank you to everyone who made it out to Pier today to support a great cause, I had a blast. Thanks to the Bad Monkey crew for representing and donating swag, thanks to the sponsors that got behind the event and thanks to Phil and Corey for running the event and organizing the after party. :yay::bowing:

I would also like to say that I was very disappointed in the lack of turnout for this event, myself and the few other local competitive disc golfers who showed up were quite surprised to see the complete lack of stumptown dg presence. Please come out next year. With the cost of the park reservation, not much money was raised, and considering the effort that went in to getting the event PDGA sanction, it's just too bad. :(

[Sam]

I am not sure why a disc golf club should get behind a charitable event for a group that has nothing to do with disc golf and is merely using our sport as a vehicle to raise money for their cause. That they threw a disc golf "tournament" (kinda) doesn't really change that, in my opinion.

Besides... the bicyclists already got the stupid green boxes downtown and still make it a regular habit to drive down the middle of the street ignoring the fact that there are people in cars who cannot use the bike lanes to get past them and I am not feeling terribly charitable towards the gestapo-ish bicycle cult of Portland, thank you very much.

It was a great day for golf out at Leverich. :cheers:

[Trozzle!!!]

Once, in a very long while, I agree with Sam. I am glad I went out to Ewing and Hoover with the Hagg crew instead of playing this event. I dont know how many people actually played, but the last PDGA event info I saw was 12 players actually registered?

I love the idea of these bikers trying to get money by hitting up the disc golf community, but maybe this will show that if they waqnt money for their cause, then maybe they should hit up more bikers, and less disc golfers????

[Joshua Olmsted]

Lets get a few things straight here Sam, first of all, this is not some new thing that just popped up out of the blue, this event is in its 7th annual year. Also, just because you dislike the actions of some people in the biking community, doesn't mean you have to bash their cause, calling a group of dedicated cyclists "gestapo-like" is a little inappropriate, in my opinion. If you look into the BTA they do more than just put in green boxes downtown. They advocate increased ridership, bike knowledge and most importantly, safe riding. Lastly, I believe people should get behind events like these because the TD, Phil Richman took the time to get PDGA certified and his event sanctioned. He even approached Stumptown DG ahead of time. With some better organization and some more head start, this event could be a great PDGA warm-up for the RCO. This isn't some event just run be some shady group who wants to get money out of us, it's run by an individual who has played for many years who cares about the sport of disc golf.

[zippyboy]

Personally, I was disappointed that I couldn't make this event (50th anniversary party kept me from going). Whereas there are some in the PDX bike community that take themselves WAY too seriously, the BTA does not seem to be among them. My beloved has her son signed up for the bike camp in Portland later this summer - despite the fact that we live an hour north.

So, to review. We (the disc golf community) whine and moan that our sport isn't more widely recognized. A group of people (in this case, the BTA) continues putting on a disc golf tourney each year, going so far as to get it sanctioned this year. However, the disc golf community doesn't show up to support it. Sometimes growing pains translate into making concessions. Meh.

I'm glad you were able to support this, Josh. Had we not had our prior engagement, I (and most likely my wife and her son) would have joined you. :cheers:

BTW, Josh, what the hell were you doing awake at 3:30 this morning? I miss being that young....

[Adam Schneider]

You know, I never play in tournaments, for a variety of reasons... but I don't make a point of posting about each one saying "nyah nyah, glad I didn't play."

I don't see what possible constructive purpose Sam & Troy's posts could have. This organization was trying to do a good thing and you guys are just dumping all over them.

[Magilla]

You know, I never play in tournaments, for a variety of reasons... but I don't make a point of posting about each one saying "nyah nyah, glad I didn't play."

I don't see what possible constructive purpose Sam & Troy's posts could have. This organization was trying to do a good thing and you guys are just dumping all over them.


I guess that Sams post would indicate that is would be OK to group him in as a Disc Golfer who likes to hang "Chandeliers" out at Milo.
Right? ALL Disc Golfers are the SAME...Right?

By the same logic, WHY would we as Disc Golfers participate in an "Ice Bowl"?

It does NOT benefit Disc Golf in any way..just some Charity that has NOTHING to do with Disc Golf.... Right?
:headbang::headbang::headbang:

WRONG

Oh and by the way.......

DODGERS SUCK
DODGERS SUCK
DODGERS SUCK
DODGERS SUCK

:nahnah:

[Sam]

I didn't say "nyah-nyah glad I didn't play". I said, I don't think that Stumptown should have felt any obligation to support a group that has nothing to do with disc golf and only uses our sport as a vehicle to raise money for their cause which has nothing to do with disc golf.

Further, this WASN'T a tournament. There was no purse. There was no pay-out. This was a fundraiser for the BTA that happened to involve some sort of disc golf competition. I think that they got the right amount of support from the DG community for a non-DG cause.

[Sam]

Ice Bowl is actually a tournament with a purse. MUCH closer to what we do, anyway. At least, all of the Ice Bowls I have been in have been as much. That there is ALSO a charitable cause is a bonus, in my opinion. It is not quite the same thing as the charitable groups benefitting from the Ice Bowl are not the ones running the event.

[Bullseye]

I was going to write something about how stupid this thread has become.

Then I saw the arcade button up above.

I think I'll play Yahtzee instead.

It cheers me up when I'm sad.

[Scott]

It looks like this tournament raised roughly $300 (that's the gross amount for the number of registrations currently showing on the PDGA site - I'm not sure how much was taken out for fees and how much it cost to reserve park for the day) for the BTA. That's fantastic, but I see a much higher potential.

It seems very reasonable that a PDGA event held at Pier Park in June should sell out, especially when it is less than a month away from the RCO. It seems to me the organizers could attract more of a crowd by offering a little bit of payout. They could charge normal fees (say $60 pro, $50 adv, $40 all others) and take $10.00 from each entry for the BTA. 72 entries x $10.00 = $720. Additional money could be made with hole sponsoships, and passing the hat at the players party.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

It looks like this tournament raised roughly $300 (that's the gross amount for the number of registrations currently showing on the PDGA site - I'm not sure how much was taken out for fees and how much it cost to reserve park for the day) for the BTA. That's fantastic, but I see a much higher potential.

It seems very reasonable that a PDGA event held at Pier Park in June should sell out, especially when it is less than a month away from the RCO. It seems to me the organizers could attract more of a crowd by offering a little bit of payout. They could charge normal fees (say $60 pro, $50 adv, $40 all others) and take $10.00 from each entry for the BTA. 72 entries x $10.00 = $720. Additional money could be made with hole sponsoships, and passing the hat at the players party.

Scott.........get ahold of Phil and let him know that you want to help plan next years event. Thanks for stepping up! :yay:

Bob

[Wog]

...Thanks to the Bad Monkey crew for representing and donating swag,
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I would also like to say that I was very disappointed in the lack of turnout for this event, myself and the few other local competitive disc golfers who showed up were quite surprised to see the complete lack of stumptown dg presence.
As the President of Stumptown I am proud to say that several club members worked to support Phil (in a small way) to pull off his first PDGA event. I've heard nothing but good things about the event and I'm excited to help him again next year. We're still a long way off from next years event, but I'm confident that Phil, one of the newest Stumptown Disc Golf members, will take everything he learned from running his first PDGA sanctioned event and grow this event for next year.