Bag Putting

[Darr]

Is tapping out putts without taking off your bag considered rude? I like to sling my bag on and off as least as possible during a round. If someone you were playing a tournament round with always bag putted inside 5 feet would you be offended? It doesn't bother me in the slightest, I am wondering if anybody considers it showboating. I've seen many pros bag putt from further... :whistler:

[gwillim]

Not in my opinion. I've actually never heard anyone say that it is showboating or rude? It might be kind of dumb in certain situations, and it might cause said player to miss a putt once in a while, but I don't think it's rude or anything.

That being said, next time I see u do it, I'm calling a courtesy violation on you!:evilgrin:

[Flash]

Not in my opinion. I've actually never heard anyone say that it is showboating or rude? It might be kind of dumb in certain situations, and it might cause said player to miss a putt once in a while, but I don't think it's rude or anything.

That being said, next time I see u do it, I'm calling a courtesy violation on you!:evilgrin:


Yeah and I am calling a concentration violation on you and you better know you are going to hear it if you are having a bad round and you miss one of those putts!!!!

[gwillim]

Yeah and I am calling a concentration violation on you and you better know you are going to hear it if you are having a bad round and you miss one of those putts!!!!

What...does that even...mean?

[Scott]

Not rude. Not necessarily smart, but not rude.

[Tim]

So long as you're actually putting out, nothing wrong with it. If you're just slapping the chains, that could irk some people though.

[Darr]

What...does that even...mean?
Maybe it has something to do with my focus! :rockon::slapface::biggrin2:

[snap7times]

I always advise my friends to take off their bag and putt out because the one time you do miss that 5-10 footer, you gonna dwell on it all day and blame the bag and so forth. I don't care if anyone does it, but if they miss a putt, I don't wanna hear their BS.... However if they slap the chains without the disc coming to rest in the basket, i'm calling that for sure.... THat is just like picking up a golf ball 4 inches from the cup and not putting it in...

[Ol' Bob]

In a tourny, roolz iz roolz. The putt has to go in the basket. There ain't no rule against showboating. Not a writ one, at least, eh? You just don't want to miss the unmissable putt. Not unless you can laugh it off, anyhowz. Murphy's Law will often as not apply and sh*t will sometimes happen. Don't worry about offending anyone with your goof-up. Just be sure you can remain good company after you screw that pooch.

[ChUcK]

It never even occurred to me that putting with a bag on your shoulder could be considered showboating.

Now, when Brian Cook putted between his legs and missed at Jet Wash last year, that's showboating. What a twerp.

[DoubleDees]

It never even occurred to me that putting with a bag on your shoulder could be considered showboating.

Now, when Brian Cook putted between his legs and missed at Jet Wash last year, that's showboating. What a twerp.

that being said the first time i saw player putt between their legs was mike werth at a steilly tournament about 10 years ago. i dont think its showboating. its giving a show.

[KenGilmore]

I've missed more 10 footers with my bag off my shoulder than with it on. Think about that one... :chinscratch:

[Flash]

Maybe it has something to do with my focus! :rockon::slapface::biggrin2:

Bingo was his name oh!!!

[NWDiscer]

I've missed more 10 footers with my bag off my shoulder than with it on. Think about that one... :chinscratch:


:laughing:


anyway i have never considered it rude or showboating. i have done it more than 1 time in tourney's, and as long as it comes to rest in the basket i do not care how you got it there.

Now if you miss it i might give ya shyt about it :bricks::jumpspin: also expect the same in return,being the tight knit MM1 div. for most of my disc career shyt tends 2 flows from all of us in 1 way or another most of the time anyway....:yay: but always in jest :laughing::rolleyes2::eek::rolleyes:


:cheers:

[NWDiscer]

oh yea in reading the title of this thread i thought it was going to be about players throwing their whole bag in the basket after missing a putt......:blush::jumpspin:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

oh yea in reading the title of this thread i thought it was going to be about players throwing their whole bag in the basket after missing a putt......:blush::jumpspin:

I should try this! Maybe one of them might actually stick. :pullhair:

Bob

[ChUcK]

that being said the first time i saw player putt between their legs was mike werth at a steilly tournament about 10 years ago. i dont think its showboating. its giving a show.

And the difference is.......?

That kind of sportsmanship belongs in events that are specifically geared towards showing off i.e. Slam Dunk Contest, Home Run Derby. It has no place in regular competition.

Perhaps tourneys in the future could offer a Trick Putt Contest. Until then, leave the trick putts at home. It only makes the competitor look foolish.

[Scott]

And the difference is.......?

That kind of sportsmanship belongs in events that are specifically geared towards showing off i.e. Slam Dunk Contest, Home Run Derby. It has no place in regular competition.

Perhaps tourneys in the future could offer a Trick Putt Contest. Until then, leave the trick putts at home. It only makes the competitor look foolish.

I have absoulutely no problem when a competitor of mine does anything (within the rules of the game) to put himself at a competive disadvantage.

[DexterHawk]

Josh Anton (great California golfer) Takes almost all of his putts inside the circle with his bag on... out to around 25 feet... JERK

But he is among the best putters in the world... Is it intimidating? Yes? Is it rude? No, he's not trying to comment on my putting... what do I care about what he does, unless he's distracting me while I'm shooting... It would be like getting mad at someone for throwing a turn over on a hole that I was planning to throw a forehand on because their shot looked easier than mine.

[Scott]

Josh Anton (great California golfer) Takes almost all of his putts inside the circle with his bag on... out to around 25 feet... JERK

But he is among the best putters in the world... Is it intimidating? Yes? Is it rude? No, he's not trying to comment on my putting... what do I care about what he does, unless he's distracting me while I'm shooting... It would be like getting mad at someone for throwing a turn over on a hole that I was planning to throw a forehand on because their shot looked easier than mine.

I've seen him blow up over a bad shot. I bet he really flips when he misses a 20 footer with his bag on.

[RonTheWhip]

How does everyone feel about picking up a competitors disc when they are under the pin. I feel like in the pro division it shows repsect and saves time and possibly eliminates a nasty cut through or underserved spit out. I know some people don't like it, but I've never had a problem with it. The situation I've seen it in is when a competitor sticks a long put and while they are clearing out they pick up the other players disc that is under the bucket. Is it legal? No. Is it a issue? I don't think so...

[all2common]

In tournaments I let people fetch their own plastic. Casual play, it's a nice thing to do for those you are playing with.

[Sam]

Yeah... in a tournament, holing out is pretty important. Nasty cut-throughs and spit-outs are part of the game. Picking up a competitor's disc is not only illegal, it potentially robs you.

[NWDiscer]

How does everyone feel about picking up a competitors disc when they are under the pin. I feel like in the pro division it shows repsect and saves time and possibly eliminates a nasty cut through or underserved spit out. I know some people don't like it, but I've never had a problem with it. The situation I've seen it in is when a competitor sticks a long put and while they are clearing out they pick up the other players disc that is under the bucket. Is it legal? No. Is it a issue? I don't think so...



well in tournies i never touch
another players disc unless its in the basket

[Scott]

How does everyone feel about picking up a competitors disc when they are under the pin. I feel like in the pro division it shows repsect and saves time and possibly eliminates a nasty cut through or underserved spit out. I know some people don't like it, but I've never had a problem with it. The situation I've seen it in is when a competitor sticks a long put and while they are clearing out they pick up the other players disc that is under the bucket. Is it legal? No. Is it a issue? I don't think so...

I know some players can be pretty petty about things like that. I thought this was especially true in the pro ranks.

[ChUcK]

well in tournies i never touch
another players disc unless its in the basket

Even then, you have to be careful. Some guys in tourneys don't want other people touching their plastic.

If someone picks up my gimme putt I always politely inform them that I'd rather putt it out. I've never seen this in a sanctioned tourney though, just in weeklies.

If there's no money on the line, I couldn't care less if you pick up my 5 footer. More than that, I'd rather putt it out.

[Sam]

I agree with ChUcK! I knew it was bound to happen eventually. :laughing:

[essjay]

Josh Anton (great California golfer) Takes almost all of his putts inside the circle with his bag on... out to around 25 feet... JERK

But he is among the best putters in the world... Is it intimidating? Yes? Is it rude? No, he's not trying to comment on my putting... what do I care about what he does, unless he's distracting me while I'm shooting... It would be like getting mad at someone for throwing a turn over on a hole that I was planning to throw a forehand on because their shot looked easier than mine.

Putt Bagger.

[Jester]

I always advise my friends to take off their bag and putt out because the one time you do miss that 5-10 footer, you gonna dwell on it all day and blame the bag and so forth. I don't care if anyone does it, but if they miss a putt, I don't wanna hear their BS.... However if they slap the chains without the disc coming to rest in the basket, i'm calling that for sure.... THat is just like picking up a golf ball 4 inches from the cup and not putting it in...

Yeah, like you are going to hear their BS anyway.......:jumpspin:

[Pizzel]

How does everyone feel about picking up a competitors disc when they are under the pin. I feel like in the pro division it shows repsect and saves time and possibly eliminates a nasty cut through or underserved spit out. I know some people don't like it, but I've never had a problem with it. The situation I've seen it in is when a competitor sticks a long put and while they are clearing out they pick up the other players disc that is under the bucket. Is it legal? No. Is it a issue? I don't think so...

1) This is a rules violation in PDGA tournament play. See PDGA rule 803.13. I assume and expect that all pro players make there best attempt to follow and enforce PDGA rules during tournament play.

2) I would be disappointed to hear that pros allow this during non-PDGA, singles, tournament play. It just doesn't seem fair and consistent to allow each player and each group to make their own determination on what is a tap-in. I have seen the best in the world miss from 10 feet.

3) I always do this during casual play, match play or heads-up stroke play. I too think it is a sign of respect, but in these situations the consequences of my decision to pick-up another players disc only effects me.

[Joshua Olmsted]

I'll be honest, all this talk about what might be the "legal" thing to do, what might be the "polite" thing to do and all these moral questions made me think to my new found sport of Ultimate. (don't worry dg's still my favorite) Despite the fact that the sport is quite large, and the level of play at the national level is extreme, they continue to consciously choose not to use referees; now there are plenty of rules, often times rules that are just as, or even more obscure than disc golf, but when it comes down to it, the emphasis is on the spirit of the game, so much so that it's explicitly mentioned in their rule book. If you feel that the hit you received was a foul, you call it, if you think the opponent traveled, you call it. While I'm all for upholding the rules and I believe they should be followed, it just makes me think about what the purpose of those rules are, and whether they will always be the same and if they are all perfect and infallible. In my personal opinion, if a pro is literally under the basket, and the disc requires absolutely no flight whatsoever, I don't think picking it up would bother me whatsoever, (a 5 footer in a tournament would) I would always ask first before ever doing it, but the spirit of it doesn't bother me. Especially having watched a fair amount of match play ball golf, where conceding others shots is part of the rules and common courtesy, even very serious golfers like Tiger will concede those incredibly short putts. An interesting topic of discussion no doubt.

[Carie CPink]

Be classy. Finish the hole.

[smobro]

Be classy. Finish the hole.

Here, here:yay:

I was not going to wade in on this one but the irony is my partner tonight in doubles was picking up or expecting the other team we were playing with to pick up his putts from sometimes 20 feet. I was totally frustrated because I wanted to putt out as we should but nobody called him on it so I just thought that must be how the "Pro's" roll. It totally took me out of my game. By the 10th hole, I just stopped giving a care if we won or not, because I felt so guilty for not finishing our putts. When we finally had a tester putt that was not a "Gimme" we of course missed it. I know I am the dumb a** for not getting on him, but he is a way more experienced player and I assumed that the other team would eventually tire of it and call us on it. Frankly, I wanted them to call us on it. FINISH YOUR PUTTS! THERE ARE NO GIMME's IN COMPETITIVE PLAY!

[KenGilmore]

Picking up from 20 feet?! :shocked:

[gwillim]

I just thought that must be how the "Pro's" roll.
It's not how *this* "Pro" rolls!

The "it's a gimme" thing is present in all divisions. Last year at TTs I had to keep telling my partners that we really DO need to putt out the 15' footers. Often times they would try to pick it up, because that's how they play with their friends or whatever. I've also had people try to pick up my 20 footers during bag tag matches this year, they were trying to be respectful, and I appreciate the reverence, but seriously, 20 foot putts are my nemesis, if anyone gets my tag, it'll probably be because I miss a couple shorties in my round!

In sanctioned play I NEVER pick up anyone's disc, and when people pick up my gimmes, which does happen frequently in the MPO division, I will ask them to let me finish out my holes, usually something to the affect of, "Please let me hole out, I really need the practice!" Because seriously, I do! lol. As for non sanctioned play, I'll pick up someone's disc if they are close enough to literally place the disc in the basket. If you have to let go of the disc to get it in the basket, I'll let you deal with it.

Also, a 20 footer at Pier is more like a 30 footer with those baskets sometimes! If anyone sees anyone not putting a twenty footer at Pier during dubs, they need to call them on it! It's not fair to the rest of the field!

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On a completely different note, congrats to Bryce and Camo Mike for winning the first Wednesday Doubles last night! It was CRAZY windy, Pier is mostly in the longs, and they still shot 11 under par! Way to shoot, fellas!

[Greg_R]

How does everyone feel about picking up a competitors disc when they are under the pin. I feel like in the pro division it shows repsect and saves time and possibly eliminates a nasty cut through or underserved spit out. I know some people don't like it, but I've never had a problem with it. The situation I've seen it in is when a competitor sticks a long put and while they are clearing out they pick up the other players disc that is under the bucket. Is it legal? No. Is it a issue? I don't think so...Well, I've seen top pros miss from under the basket before so I can't believe that another pro would allow them that competitive advantage, especially with the payout separation of 1-2 strokes.

Picking up from 20 feet?!NOW I know how all those great Tuesday Twos scores happen!

[KenGilmore]

Well, I wish someone would let me pick up a 20 footer. I missed two from around 10-15 last week! :blush:

[bvdisc]

WOW... While reading this thread I had to check on three different times to make sure that Dion started it.

In a casual round it's fine to pick up another players disc that is a drop in but at no time during a PDGA event is it ever okay. Knowingly breaking the rules and not holing out is not only a several stroke penalty but should get a player DQed. People miss, that's part of the game. Most of us have missed from embarrassingly short before. It may seem like a nice thing to do but it's unfair to the rest of the field and in clear violation of PDGA rules.

I get pissed when I'm playing a non-pdga event and I see people not playing a hole out or slapping the chains. If there is money on the line then you have to play it legit.

Usually I'm a pretty calm (if not talkative) guy on the course but not putting out is something I wont stand for.

Just my 2 cents.

-BVD