Bad Monkey Open - June 27-28, 2009

[Wog]

June 27 & 28, 2009
Leverich Park
PDGA C-Tier
Amateur Only event
$35 base entry fee.

Registration for the Bad Monkey Open starts Friday, May 1st at noon.

Register online at http://bom.stumptowndg.com

Details:
Conveniently located at Leverich Park which is less than a mile from the Oregon border off Interstate 5!

20 spots will be held (until at least May 15th) for in person registration at Bad Monkey Bikes (http://badmonkeybikes.com), 1717 Broadway in Vancouver. Go to http://bmo.stumptowndg.com and print out a "check/moneyorder" orde and bring that with your payment to Bad Monkey Bikes.

There will be 16 places held for juniors, 20 places for women and 60 held for men until June 5th, at which time spots will be opened for any classifications

Fees Provide:

A generous player's pack (2 discs included)
Trophies and scrip for division leaders
$100 Ace pot
$200 donation to the Rose City Open
PDGA sanctioning fees
Park rental fees
Tournament materials and costs
Online payment processing costs


Sponsored by Bad Monkey Bikes (http://badmonkeybikes.com) now selling discs!

Hole sponsorships available for $25.00

http://bmo.stumptowndg.com

[TreeLove]

Tried to sign up, but it said 0 units were in stock...?

[Adam Schneider]

Sponsored by Bad Monkey Bikes (http://badmonkeybikes.com) now selling discs!
Yes, I see their Web site mentions something about "Leverage Park"... Steve, do you know which brands they carry, and whether it's a full line or just a handful?

[Flash]

Yes, I see their Web site mentions something about "Leverage Park"... Steve, do you know which brands they carry, and whether it's a full line or just a handful?

Someone might want to let Bad Monkey Bikes that Disc golf is spelled with a c not a K

[Flash]

Tried to sign up, but it said 0 units were in stock...?
Gawain,

That might be because registration opens tomorrow at Noon!

[Scott]

How many rounds per day?

What pin positions will be used?

[TreeLove]

Gawain,

That might be because registration opens tomorrow at Noon!

And then I re-read the first post, and what does it say? "registration opens Friday at Noon".

:slapface: :slapface: :slapface: :slapface: :slapface: :slapface: :slapface: :slapface:

Thanks, Flash!

[gwillim]

How many rounds per day?

What pin positions will be used?

2 rounds Saturday, 1 round Sunday, and a final nine for the top 4 MA1 players. Pin positions will change from Saturday to Sunday. No non-normal pin positions will be used, as of right now (except for the final 9).

[D-Walk]

2 rounds Saturday, 1 round Sunday, and a final nine for the top 4 MA1 players. Pin positions will change from Saturday to Sunday. No non-normal pin positions will be used, as of right now (except for the final 9).

How many baskets will be in for this tourny?

[Sam]

A final 9 for Advanced Players? Not Pro?

[gwillim]

A final 9 for Advanced Players? Not Pro?

Tournament is AM only.

[Scott]

There are three choices on the checkout form:

PDGA Member (No Fee)
Junior - Born 1990 or later (Free)
Non-Member ($10.00)

What about someone who is a Junior AND a non-member? Still free?

Also, will there be multiple Junior divisions (<10, <13, <16)?

[gwillim]

How many baskets will be in for this tourny?

We will use the normal 12 hole layout.

[gwillim]

There are three choices on the checkout form:

PDGA Member (No Fee)
Junior - Born 1990 or later (Free)
Non-Member ($10.00)

What about someone who is a Junior AND a non-member? Still free?

Also, will there be multiple Junior divisions (<10, <13, <16)?

Juniors are not required to pay the non-PDGA fee. We are requiring at least 4 per division. If 4 <10 (or 4 <13 etc) players sign up, they can have their own division. So yes, there can be multiple Junior divisions. If there are 3, they will be moved to the next division of their choosing.

Meant to put the "Minimum of 4 to make a division" in the paperwork. Sorry 'bout that.

[gwillim]

Registration opens in a little over an hour!

You won't want to miss this one! It's going to be a blast!

[Sam]

Tournament is AM only.

Well that explains that then. Thanks! :cheers:

[all2common]

Bad Monkey...reminds me of some Sunday mornings.

[Scott]

Well that explains that then. Thanks! :cheers:

d'oh! I just realized I have a conflict that weekend and can't make it. :headbang: I'm camping with a group of Cub Scouts and, since I'm the organizer of the event, I kind of have to be there. :headbang: This was sounding like a great 1st PDGA event for my son.

The good news is we'll be at Horning's. :biggrin2:


In any case, thanks to Ryan, Wog, and everyone else for putting together what sounds like a really fun event.

[gwillim]

d'oh! I just realized I have a conflict that weekend and can't make it. :headbang: I'm camping with a group of Cub Scouts and, since I'm the organizer of the event, I kind of have to be there.

That's too bad Scott, I was hoping your son could make it! But duty calls, I suppose, and camping is fun as well. We might have some tourney discs for sale that you can buy though :)

[gwillim]

Well that explains that then. Thanks! :cheers:

No worries. Too many details sometimes.

[Flash]

We will use the normal 12 hole layout.

Ryan you may want to consider a 13th hole, I think in order to have the rounds rated you need 13 holes or you must combine two rounds into a 24 holes layout. You can chat with Chuck Kennedy on this one, he will have additional information surrounding the PDGA handling of a 12 hole tournament.

[Wog]

There are currently two divisions for juniors available when you register online, but we will open more if needed. Players born after 1993 that would like to request placement in a Youth III or IV division should include their birthdate with their registration.

Youth I is for those born 1990 or later.
Youth II is for those born 1993 or later.

By my math that means Youth I is for those that are were 18 years old on January 1st this year, and Youth II for those 15 years old on January 1st.

[gwillim]

Ryan you may want to consider a 13th hole, I think in order to have the rounds rated you need 13 holes or you must combine two rounds into a 24 holes layout. You can chat with Chuck Kennedy on this one, he will have additional information surrounding the PDGA handling of a 12 hole tournament.

Thanks for the head's up. I'm about fairly certain that the minimum for ratings is 12 holes, but I'll check.

[Wog]

Registration available now at http://bmo.stumptowndg.com

[Sausage Fingers]

Looks like we have some more candidates for Reading For Comprehension 101!:pirate:

[Wog]

Thanks for the head's up. I'm about fairly certain that the minimum for ratings is 12 holes, but I'll check.

Doing the research on the PDGA tournament directors report, it looks like 13 holes is the magic number for each round. However, I think I was told that the 13 hole requirement is for course rating, but not necessary for a player rating. I'll do some more checking and we'll definitely consider adding a 13th hole.

[Wog]

Additional details on the tournament available at: http://vcdg.org/tournaments

Current players list: http://snipurl.com/pdga_bmo

["Over the Hill" Bob]

I'm in! :yay:This is going to be a FUN tournament and it benefits the RCO. Thanks guys! :bowing:

Bob

[Wog]

Know someone that needs to sponsor a hole at this event.

They can pay online at http://snipurl.com/bmo_sponsor

Heck, why don't you sponsor two??

[TreeLove]

I'm signed up. Oh, and I sponsored 2 holes, no waiting.

[Magilla]

Thanks for the head's up. I'm about fairly certain that the minimum for ratings is 12 holes, but I'll check.

Its 13..... not sure WHY??
But that is the number required for rounds to be rated...

You could always combine 2 rds into a 24 for your reports, just as we add the Alpine 9 to an 18 to get ratings at Lava Launch.

:cheers:

[gwillim]

Its 13..... not sure WHY??
But that is the number required for rounds to be rated...

You could always combine 2 rds into a 24 for your reports, just as we add the Alpine 9 to an 18 to get ratings at Lava Launch.

:cheers:

Yeah, Steve and I talked about it earlier. I could have sworn I read somewhere that it was 12, but no biggie, we have a contingency plan. We're just going to add another hole to make it three rounds of 13.


DID I MENTION THAT THE PLAYER'S PACK INCLUDES TWO DISCS!

[Wog]

I'm signed up. Oh, and I sponsored 2 holes, no waiting.

Thanks Sweet Plastic for your sponsorship! I took another sponsorship yesterday, only 9 holes left to sponsor.Who's next?

[gwillim]

Registration is just about 20% full! If you're wanting to play this event, I'd suggest registering sooner rather than later!

[zippyboy]

This is just from a case of curiosity, and not an attempt to "poke the bear." Is there any chance that there will be some 150g class discs available in the players packs? I am hoping to bring my wife's son to this event, but I know he'd be bummed if the players pack discs were too heavy for him. Again, just curious. Thanks!

~Z

[gwillim]

This is just from a case of curiosity, and not an attempt to "poke the bear." Is there any chance that there will be some 150g class discs available in the players packs? I am hoping to bring my wife's son to this event, but I know he'd be bummed if the players pack discs were too heavy for him. Again, just curious. Thanks!

~Z

Yes Sir! There will be a wide variety of weights, including some 150s.

[LegoRules]

Yes Sir! There will be a wide variety of weights, including some 150s.

Hopefully the lighter weights will be put aside for the juniors and women to have a chance at. What I have found is if I am not at the front of the line all the light weights are gone for what ever reason.

Cindy :)

[Flash]

Yeah, Steve and I talked about it earlier. I could have sworn I read somewhere that it was 12, but no biggie, we have a contingency plan. We're just going to add another hole to make it three rounds of 13.


DID I MENTION THAT THE PLAYER'S PACK INCLUDES TWO DISCS!


Good to know that I was not spewing junk all over the forums. I seem to remember having this conversation with Chuck Kennedy once in regards to number of holes needed to achieve a player rating. I believe it used to be 12 but was changed sometime ago, possible around the time they figured out why the offsets were not figured correctly in areas that had no highly rated players.

[Flash]

...We're just going to add another hole to make it three rounds of 13.

Could have called it the Prime Number Open!:D

["Over the Hill" Bob]

This is just from a case of curiosity, and not an attempt to "poke the bear." Is there any chance that there will be some 150g class discs available in the players packs? I am hoping to bring my wife's son to this event, but I know he'd be bummed if the players pack discs were too heavy for him. Again, just curious. Thanks!

~Z

Yes, and there IS a Novice division forming. Hopefully is doesn't get filled with "Baggers". :D

Bob

[zippyboy]

I hope you are referring to my wife's son, and not me. I mean, I'm not really any good at this sport, either, but I have yet to lose to the kid (though I know that day will be here sooner than I am ready for it).

[Rick da Corte]

I registered at the store, but I'm not on the list on the pdga link, what gives???

[smobro]

Yes, and there IS a Novice division forming. Hopefully is doesn't get filled with "Baggers". :D

Bob


I want to volunteer for this event. Grunt work is my specialty. I will pull weeds, wear a cheerleading outfit, carry bags, mow lawns, brush hair, polish shoes, you name it, I will volunteer to do it. I will not, I repeat, will not shirk my duties in any way. Hee, hee, I said duties.
Bob, what do I need to do to become a vlounteer for this?

[Trozzle!!!]

I just registered, time for another Leveritch tourney win. Kent you can carry my bag if you wish :)

[gwillim]

I registered at the store, but I'm not on the list on the pdga link, what gives???

Not to worry, it takes a couple days for the pdga site to get updated. You're in!

[gwillim]

what do I need to do to become a vlounteer for this?

I'll talk to you, I've got some ideas of what you can do to help out!

[smobro]

I just registered, time for another Leveritch tourney win. Kent you can carry my bag if you wish :)

Dude, I would carry your bag for sure. Although I bet Gwillam has a different plan for me. Probably something like being the guy in the circus who goes around and shovels up what the elephants leave behind.:waaah:

[Trozzle!!!]

the guy in the circus who goes around and shovels up what the elephants leave behind.

that pretty much sums up my game for sure :)

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Dude, I would carry your bag for sure. Although I bet Gwillam has a different plan for me. Probably something like being the guy in the circus who goes around and shovels up what the elephants leave behind.:waaah:


Yep, I bet Gwillam can use your help. Thanks for stepping up and helping out.

How many Advanced/Pro players remember where they started? Remember when you were Rec/Int AMs? Come on out and see the up and comers. Great chance to volunteer and give back to your roots. AND help raise some $$$ for the RCO. Sell your services to a player, say for $10, as a caddy and donate back to the RCO? Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I like that idea!

Bob

[Wog]

33% full with 5 weeks to go. We've added a couple more sponsors this week, and that means more giveaways and larger prizes. Also, Gwillim is working on a sweet trophy disc for the winners in each division!

Current Players List (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9175)

[Trozzle!!!]

If Jason doesnt get enough competition in INT, feel free to move me up :cheers:

[Joshua Olmsted]

I'll be signing up INT soon, at least it'll be a two man division.

[Will of Doom]

As soon as we can get the money together Shannon and I will be signing up. I'll probably sign up INT but if the rating come out and I need I'll move up to ADV.

[Trozzle!!!]

shouldnt be a ratings update before this event, so looks like INT for you. But coinsidering you got 4th? at the Fling, you should play ADV anyways :)

Anyways WOG, switch me to INT, I like the competition :cheers:

[gwillim]

Anyways WOG, switch me to INT, I like the competition :cheers:

Kudos to you, Troy! :yay:

[Trozzle!!!]

I already have a Leveritch win in Rec, and I could probably do it again this time, so why not move up and challenge myself. Im not saying its a big move, MA3 to MA2, but I am willing to give it a go :cheers:

[Minordiety]

I already have a Leveritch win in Rec, and I could probably do it again this time, so why not move up and challenge myself. Im not saying its a big move, MA3 to MA2, but I am willing to give it a go :cheers:

Signed up and ready to play. Too bad there is no such thing as a rec masters division. Guess I'll just have to show the other crusties how not to putt.

[Flash]

Signed up and ready to play. Too bad there is no such thing as a rec masters division. Guess I'll just have to show the other crusties how not to putt.


Or start practicing and surprise yourself at the event

[Sam]

I think I want to play in this event. Must check the calendar keeper and see if she is game. How many total spots will there be in the event? 96?

[gwillim]

I think I want to play in this event. Must check the calendar keeper and see if she is game. How many total spots will there be in the event? 96?

96 is correct.

[Sam]

Nice. Thanks. Will discuss it with the boss.
:cheers:

[zippyboy]

Ok. This morning I just signed up with the PDGA. Obviously, I don't have a number, or a rating. I am just curious whether or not I should sign up for novice or recreational? Any input from those that know my throwing abilities would be greatly appreciated.

Also, concering the kids flights. Am I allowed to walk with my wife's son during his round? He's only eight, and has no experience whatsoever with an organized disc golf event. Will the rounds be spread out to allow for this? Just curious. Thanks.

~Z

[douglaselvis]

Zip,
My son is 11 and knows the ropes and would be happy to help your wifes son around the course. He'll be playing Jr>13 but if not enough Jrs play he'll be lumped in with my son (I assume).

When my son was younger playing they had an Adult walk with the Jrs to guide them along. Which is helpful.

Doug

[Sam]

Zip: Intermediate. You're not a Novice and you just shot -18 at Orchard the other night, canning a big putt from your own hand to seal it. If you can do that, you are an intermediate player at least.

[Minordiety]

Or start practicing and surprise yourself at the event

Everyday!

[Minordiety]

Zip,
My son is 11 and knows the ropes and would be happy to help your wifes son around the course. He'll be playing Jr>13 but if not enough Jrs play he'll be lumped in with my son (I assume).

When my son was younger playing they had an Adult walk with the Jrs to guide them along. Which is helpful.

Doug

Doug,

Rec division? Seriously? You have a higher rating than mine. Still not saying much, but Rec? Seriously?:laughing:

[Scott]

Zip: Intermediate. You're not a Novice and you just shot -18 at Orchard the other night, canning a big putt from your own hand to seal it. If you can do that, you are an intermediate player at least.

Ya know, there IS a division between Novice and Intermediate. It's called AM3 (it's other name is very misleading). That is the division that I would play in, and I think Mitch matches up with me pretty well. Normally, TD's don't offer this division, but the good people running the BMO were kind enough to do so. There's one person signed up for MA2, and 11 in MA3.

[Sausage Fingers]

Doug,

Rec division? Seriously? You have a higher rating than mine. Still not saying much, but Rec? Seriously?:laughing:

Easy now! Don't make me go all Division Name Cop on ya! MA1, MA2, MA3 & MA4 all have ratings ranges associated with them. If your rating allows you to play in a division then everybody else should shut the F up. This ingrained BS of trying to bully people into playing above their rating is really starting to piss me off.

Maybe I should rename the divisions: MA1 could be the Bagger division, MA2 could be the DoucheBag division, MA3 could be the Playa division and MA4 could be the Studly division! Those names make about as much sense as the current ones!

Just play where your rating allows and have fun competing against those of similar skill.:pirate:

[Scott]

Easy now! Don't make me go all Division Name Cop on ya! MA1, MA2, MA3 & MA4 all have ratings ranges associated with them. If your rating allows you to play in a division then everybody else should shut the F up. This ingrained BS of trying to bully people into playing above their rating is really starting to piss me off.

Maybe I should rename the divisions: MA1 could be the Bagger division, MA2 could be the DoucheBag division, MA3 could be the Playa division and MA4 could be the Studly division! Those names make about as much sense as the current ones!

Just play where your rating allows and have fun competing against those of similar skill.:pirate:


THIS MAN IS A GENIUS! YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO HIM! :pirate:

[Sam]

Hey... if you want to continue to hold yourself back with the pack, go right ahead. I think Zippy has been playing a long time and I feel that if he wants his game to continue to improve he should challenge himself in a tougher division against one person (with more signing up who have recently played rec and see the wisdom of moving up) rather than sit back with the herd.

[Sam]

Maybe I should rename the divisions: MA1 could be the Bagger division, MA2 could be the DoucheBag division, MA3 could be the Playa division and MA4 could be the Studly division! Those names make about as much sense as the current ones!

Sure, Jordan. And your division could be the colostomy bagger division. :rolleyes2:

[Sausage Fingers]

Hey... if you want to continue to hold yourself back with the pack, go right ahead. I think Zippy has been playing a long time and I feel that if he wants his game to continue to improve he should challenge himself in a tougher division against one person (with more signing up who have recently played rec and see the wisdom of moving up) rather than sit back with the herd.

Another PRIME example of the BS I was talking about. Why not just pressure him into donating his entry fee to YOUR division?:pirate:

[Sausage Fingers]

Sure, Jordan. And your division could be the colostomy bagger division. :rolleyes2:

An EXCELLENT name for the division!:yay:

But then what are you saving for the MG1 division?:pirate:

[Sam]

Because it's not about me, Jordan. It's about what people want from their game. If they want to kick it with their homies like they do in their casual rounds, play Rec. If they want to get better at these things we like to attend on weekends, he should play with better players.

[Sam]

But then what are you saving for the MG1 division?:pirate:

The Geritol and Colostomy Bagger Division, naturally.

[Scott]

How will he know if he will truly dominate the MA3 division if he doesn't try it first? Surely there is someone there that will give some competition? If he crushes, he knows to play MA2 (or higher) next time. If he finishes middle of the pack, he knows he's probably in the right place.

[jevon]

Hmmmm, all this talk I've been hearing from Sam for what seems like forever now... and he is still playing MA1. Why not push yourself and play with the big boys in Open? By your own logic that is the only way you are going to get better.

Before you say anything about retaining Am status let me first remind you that you can opt to not take cash. :chinscratch:

[Sausage Fingers]

If they want to get better at these things we like to attend on weekends, he should play with better players.

I have to call BS on this. I could play every PDGA round with your newest good buddy Kenny and I still wouldn't play better rounds. Maybe after he got tired of waiting for me to throw so many times he MIGHT give me a few pointers to help my game just to help pass the time. But playing with people who are (consistently) only a few strokes better than you won't do that much for you.

Now if you play with them during casual rounds, where they would be more inclined to discuss the game with you while you play, I can see that helping a lot.:pirate:

[Sausage Fingers]

Hmmmm, all this talk I've been hearing from Sam for what seems like forever now... and he is still playing MA1. Why not push yourself and play with the big boys in Open? By your own logic that is the only way you are going to get better.

Before you say anything about retaining Am status let me first remind you that you can opt to not take cash. :chinscratch:

BOOYAH!

[Sam]

This conversation reminds me of something...

Oh yeah!

http://www.morethings.com/fan/south_park/photo_gallery/eric-cartman-210.jpg

[zippyboy]

So, I should be playing intermediate. Fair enough. I think Scott could take me down without a problem, but, we also haven't thrown together for a while. That being said, what is intermediate (as is AM3, MA2, etc.). Just curious. This all gets so confusing (and is part of the reason I resisted signing up in the first place).

For the record, I like Jordan's division names.

[Joshua Olmsted]

I'm still a little surprised/disappointed in all the people with ~900 ratings who are signing up advanced, I haven't played in a PDGA tournament in 11 months and my ratings 902, I'm signing up INT and I hope to see some appropriate competition, just because it's a smaller tournament doesn't mean everyone has to suddenly jump up to divisions they're not truly in. Just my opinion.

[Sam]

Hmmmm, all this talk I've been hearing from Sam for what seems like forever now... and he is still playing MA1. Why not push yourself and play with the big boys in Open? By your own logic that is the only way you are going to get better.

This is correct and something that I would do at smaller tournaments. In fact, I have played Open at many events (Tour of Portland and other non-PDGA events) though it has admittedly been a while. Truthfully, I did get better and played better playing with people who were consistently better than me.

And Jordan, Ken Climo might not want to give you tips during your round but you would pick stuff up from him just watching how he plays the course.

[Scott]

Hmmmm, all this talk I've been hearing from Sam for what seems like forever now... and he is still playing MA1. Why not push yourself and play with the big boys in Open? By your own logic that is the only way you are going to get better.

Before you say anything about retaining Am status let me first remind you that you can opt to not take cash. :chinscratch:

:bowing:

Nicely played!

[jevon]

Mitch. If I were to play I would sign up for MA3.

[Sam]

OK. I said my piece. You guys have fun in the mire. I'll make sure to bring a helmet for the winner of your division.

[Sam]

I just signed Jamie and I up for this. I have to play Advanced but the astounding logic here has convinced me to sign Jamie up for Intermediate since her rating barely allows her to do so. Sorry ladies...

[Minordiety]

Easy now! Don't make me go all Division Name Cop on ya! MA1, MA2, MA3 & MA4 all have ratings ranges associated with them. If your rating allows you to play in a division then everybody else should shut the F up. This ingrained BS of trying to bully people into playing above their rating is really starting to piss me off.

Maybe I should rename the divisions: MA1 could be the Bagger division, MA2 could be the DoucheBag division, MA3 could be the Playa division and MA4 could be the Studly division! Those names make about as much sense as the current ones!

Just play where your rating allows and have fun competing against those of similar skill.:pirate:


Damn, I was just talking smack to a friend of mine, Doug. Didn't mean to cause an uproar. Doug's a damn fine golfer. He can play where ever he wants. Not pressuring him into anything. I would expect the same level of BS I sling at him to come right back at me. And I'm sure when he chimes in he will flip me a boat load about being old and having to take geritol.

John

[zippyboy]

So, after all of this, I am thinking about MA2 (Intermediate) for this tourney, and MA3 (Recreational) for the RCO. Its tough to know what to do without an actual rating. I am just trying to think about where I stack up (in my estimation) against other players that are already signed up. I think Troz is still a better thrower than I am, but of all the people signed up (that I know), I think I would be most closely matched with him skill-wise. However, he is signed up (on the PDGA site) in MA3 for this tourney. Did he move up to MA2? If so, that's where I will play.

For those that are continually getting bogged down in all of this :nahnah: I just want to throw things against people that I can compete with.

This whole discussion is the reason I held off ever signing up with the PDGA.

~Z

[Sausage Fingers]

I just signed Jamie and I up for this. I have to play Advanced but the astounding logic here has convinced me to sign Jamie up for Intermediate since her rating barely allows her to do so. Sorry ladies...

When you add in gender or age restricted divisions the whole thing gets a little murkier. But I think that Jamie would do well in the MA2 division. If there were no MM1 (colostomy bagger division for those keeping score at home) division I would play MA2 as well as my rating has NEVER been above 935.

Just check out where Gawain & I are playing in the WB Dubs this year after Yose refused to offer any Master division below Pro.:pirate:

Ken Climo might not want to give you tips during your round but you would pick stuff up from him just watching how he plays the course. Yeah that's really helpful to see him throw 400'+ rollers. That makes it instantly possible for ME to do the same! If only I had gotten to play with Kenny... I coulda been a contenda!:biggrin2: Just more of the BS myth of disc golf perpetrated by those that want to take your money...

[Sam]

No no... I signed Jamie up for FW2. She qualifies.

It WOULD be helpful to see Climo throw 400+ foot rollers. It has already helped me. And I think that you might be confused about my wanting to take anyone's money still. I don't play Intermediate, Jordan.

[Joshua Olmsted]

I totally think you should join me in MA2 Mitch, and my question now is, why is there an 885, and 896 and a 905 rated player in the same division as Sam Gibson, and 946 rated player. Sorry for those suckers.

[Sam]

They want to learn how to throw 400+ foot rollers? From McGrew, though. Mine top out at about 395. :laughing:

[Sausage Fingers]

No no... I signed Jamie up for FW2. She qualifies.

Ah, now I see your point. Strange how the PDGA has multiple ratings based divisions for gender restricted divisions but not for age restricted divisions. I hear more and more calls for ratings based Masters divisions...

It WOULD be helpful to see Climo throw 400+ foot rollers. It has already helped me. And I think that you might be confused about my wanting to take anyone's money still. I don't play Intermediate, Jordan.

Pro players rag on MA1 players (move up baggers!) and MA1 players rag on MA2/MA3/MA4 players. Same exact thing. Show me your 400'+ roller next time we're out on the course, I'd like to see it.:pirate:

[D-Walk]

[QUOTE=Sam;19947]the astounding logic here has convinced me to sign Jamie up for Intermediate since her rating barely allows her to do so.QUOTE]

So I should play novice then?? Hehehe My 776 rating dictates that's my ability level. :chinscratch: :whistler:

[Sam]

Ah, now I see your point. Strange how the PDGA has multiple ratings based divisions for gender restricted divisions but not for age restricted divisions.

So... you think Jamie would be bagging if she played FW2 or do you think that she would be playing where she belongs based on the logic you have applied to this ratings/division discussion?

Pro players rag on MA1 players (move up baggers!) and MA1 players rag on MA2/MA3/MA4 players. Same exact thing.

I am not ragging on anyone. I am ragging on the fact that the system is more broken now, in my opinion, than it was before they added a fourth AM division. I think that that was a huge mistake and I think that the people who suffer for it are those who see their rating and choose to stay in the 3 or 4 division.

Show me your 400'+ roller next time we're out on the course, I'd like to see it.:pirate:

OK. Hole 3 at Trojan. Maybe I'll throw a Roc... :whistler:

[Bluedisc]

They want to learn how to throw 400+ foot rollers? From McGrew, though. Mine top out at about 395. :laughing:

Right, thanks for reminding me how poorly I throw rollers. :slapface: You don't need that kind of distance at this course goofball. :nono:

[Sam]

So I should play novice then?? Hehehe My 776 rating dictates that's my ability level. :chinscratch: :whistler:

NO! You should play Intermediate like we discussed. The choice is simple - push yourself to play to the level you are competing against (and that could mean the division as much as the players!) or don't. Playing your rating is not pushing yourself, in my opinion. It should be considered a loss as you should be improving with the more you play.

[Sam]

You don't need that kind of distance at this course goofball. :nono:

Yes, I know. One hole calls for a long roller, though. I hope the grass is cut and it is dry out. Roc to the basket on 3!

As for distance, yeah... that should also be a motivator for people to move up. We're not playing Milo for Pete's sake.

Zip, I think playing MA2 at BMO and MA3 at RCO is a good compromise. You should, however, be prepared to ask to be bumped to MA2 for the RCO if you exceed your expectations at BMO, IMO. :)

[D-Walk]

Zip, I think playing MA2 at BMO and MA3 at RCO is a good compromise.

I could be wrong but I had asked when signing up and was told MA2 was the lowest offered division for RCO.

[Sam]

Really??? And Jordan is co-TDing? :chinscratch:

[Flash]

When you add in gender or age restricted divisions the whole thing gets a little murkier. But I think that Jamie would do well in the MA2 division. If there were no MM1 (colostomy bagger division for those keeping score at home) division I would play MA2 as well as my rating has NEVER been above 935.

Just check out where Gawain & I are playing in the WB Dubs this year after Yose refused to offer any Master division below Pro.:pirate:

Yeah that's really helpful to see him throw 400'+ rollers. That makes it instantly possible for ME to do the same! If only I had gotten to play with Kenny... I coulda been a contenda!:biggrin2: Just more of the BS myth of disc golf perpetrated by those that want to take your money...

Jordan,

By your own admission, you have rating protection already in the division of MA2 so why do you also need age protection? I feel that age protection is important in the pro ranks but in the amateur ranks it just reeks! http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/Emoticons/knight.gif

Now I know you are going to say something about those damn kids not following the rules or etiquette, but that is why you should be playing there, to give those kids a few lessons and help out the sport all the while taking their scrip!

So lets stop http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/Emoticons/dedhorse.gif lets stop the http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/Emoticons/touche.gif and http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/Emoticons/grouphug.gif then play some disc golf!

[Sausage Fingers]

Jordan,

By your own admission, you have rating protection already in the division of MA2 so why do you also need age protection? I feel that age protection is important in the pro ranks but in the amateur ranks it just reeks! http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/Emoticons/knight.gif

I have no problem playing in MA2 and I do so when MM1 is not offered. I am talking about players who want to play age protected LOWER divisions. Someone already asked why there was no MM2 or MM3 divisions. Some of us old guys didn't start playing this sport before we were 30...

Now I know you are going to say something about those damn kids not following the rules or etiquette, but that is why you should be playing there, to give those kids a few lessons and help out the sport all the while taking their scrip!

I get plenty of scrip playing MM1 as it is, thanks. And I have no qualms about calling ANYBODY out on the rules of the game.

So lets stop http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/Emoticons/dedhorse.gif

I will if people would stop the incessant BS about 'playing up' and trying to browbeat young players into doing so using derogatory division names!

lets stop the http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/Emoticons/touche.gif and http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/Emoticons/grouphug.gif then play some disc golf!

I got nothing but love for the DG community, but this is my hot button.:pirate:

[Sam]

So... everyone is cool with Jamie playing Intermediate Women, then, seeing as how she qualifies for that division?

Or are we ready to admit that the PDGA ratings system is a giant clusterf#@# that still needs some tweaking?

[Sausage Fingers]

So... everyone is cool with Jamie playing Intermediate Women, then, seeing as how she qualifies for that division?

Or are we ready to admit that the PDGA ratings system is a giant clusterf#@# that still needs some tweaking?

It works fine for what it is: a look back on how you played in the last year. For those players who are improving fast, it will always be behind. And for players with only a few rated rounds it isn't accurate, but neither would your batting average in the first month of the MLB season...

But for an old fart like me with lots of rounds in the books it accurately reflects my level of play.:pirate:

[Sam]

Thanks for dodging the question. One more time.

Do you think it is appropriate for Jamie to play Intermediate Women? She's rated below 800 (796?) and the standards say that she qualifies for Intermediate. The way you guys are going on about it, there would be no bagging going on whatsoever despite Jamie throwing nearly twice as far and putting twice as well as the Intermediate Women.

So... anyone other than the Intermediate Women Jamie is going to crush at the BMO have a problem with this?

[Minordiety]

So... everyone is cool with Jamie playing Intermediate Women, then, seeing as how she qualifies for that division?

Or are we ready to admit that the PDGA ratings system is a giant clusterf#@# that still needs some tweaking?

I think I just heard a collective, "oh god, NO!!!!" from the intermediate womens field.:D

As the pusher of Jordan's button on this issue, I hereby declare this cluster%$#@ topic beaten to death.:trophy:

You may all now resume your day.:jumpspin:

So sayeth,
The Minordiety.

[Sam]

I think I just heard a collective, "oh god, NO!!!!" from the intermediate womens field.:D

Dude... if I signed Jamie up for Intermediate Women, she would show up at the event and ask to be moved up. I, however, might join Jimmy Hoffa in whatever disappeared place he is currently in.

Jamie is playing Advanced Women where she rightfully belongs.

[Sausage Fingers]

Jamie is playing Advanced Women where she rightfully belongs.

Sure, she is on the cusp of FW1 rating-wise and improving everyday. But when you tell someone who is 30 ratings points below the bottom of the next division to play up, I will continue to call you on it.:pirate:

So get out your dead horses!

[Sam]

Sure, she is on the cusp of FW1 rating-wise and improving everyday.

Huh... I guess the Advanced Women trophies she has don't play a part in this conversation then?

But when you tell someone who is 30 ratings points below the bottom of the next division to play up, I will continue to call you on it.:pirate:

Funny... we were talking about someone with no rating in this conversation...

[Minordiety]

Dude... if I signed Jamie up for Intermediate Women, she would show up at the event and ask to be moved up. I, however, might join Jimmy Hoffa in whatever disappeared place he is currently in.

Jamie is playing Advanced Women where she rightfully belongs.

I know, Sam. I never thought she'd play down.

Giants Stadium? That's a long way to dump your body when she decides to get rid of you. I'd go with Safeco Field. It's a much shorter drive and saves gas money.

Personally, I don't care where people play. But I do like to give my friends crap when the opportunity arises. I saw the opening and took it. However, if Climo or Feldberg showed up and decided to play my division I might get a bit testy.:explode:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Thanks for dodging the question. One more time.

Do you think it is appropriate for Jamie to play Intermediate Women? She's rated below 800 (796?) and the standards say that she qualifies for Intermediate. The way you guys are going on about it, there would be no bagging going on whatsoever despite Jamie throwing nearly twice as far and putting twice as well as the Intermediate Women.

So... anyone other than the Intermediate Women Jamie is going to crush at the BMO have a problem with this?


I for one have absolutlely no problem with Jamie or anybody else playing where their PDGA rating says they can. Jamie certainly would not be bagging nor would anybody else who plays within the ratings guidelines.

I think the big question is why do you play where you do? (in general, not you Sam) Is it for competition with people of your own skill level? Fine! Do you not know where you stand, ie have a rating yet? ? Fine! Do you just want to win as much as you can, taking home trophies and as much scrip as you can? Wrong motivation! IMHO

I really don't think of myself as a Novice player but rating and my play clearly indicates that, that is where I belong. When offered I usually will play Novice but if not offered I play with the Advanced Masters for good company and good times. If I were ever to win or consistently cash in the Novice devision I would move to Rec and so on and so on.

The ratings system is indeed flawed but it is what we have. We don't like it? We work towards fixing it, plain and simple. What is a more fair system? Lets hear it and we'll approach the PDGA with it. Until we have a better method then complaining doesn't really do much good.

I'm going to go play some golf now!

Bob

[essjay]

I'm rated 786 and got a raft of sht for playing Int at the Stumptown tournament out there. I only did it because there were 3 Ints and only one of me. I do kind of think it's unfair though. I definitely felt pressured to move up when Jamie and Dana did, even though I'd never won (or maybe even ever gotten 2nd) in Int. So now here I am as a bottom feeder in the Adv division... ho hum


Thanks for dodging the question. One more time.

Do you think it is appropriate for Jamie to play Intermediate Women? She's rated below 800 (796?) and the standards say that she qualifies for Intermediate. The way you guys are going on about it, there would be no bagging going on whatsoever despite Jamie throwing nearly twice as far and putting twice as well as the Intermediate Women.

So... anyone other than the Intermediate Women Jamie is going to crush at the BMO have a problem with this?

[Flash]

I have no problem playing in MA2 and I do so when MM1 is not offered. I am talking about players who want to play age protected LOWER divisions. Someone already asked why there was no MM2 or MM3 divisions. Some of us old guys didn't start playing this sport before we were 30...

Jordan, That is my point why are they even asking for the lower rating age protection divisions. If the people in your rating group are already there because their rating depicts it then why should there also be a division that offers the same rating protection but also an age protection.

Plain and simple:
MA1, MA2, MA3, MA4, MA5

FW1, FW2, FW3, FW4, FW5

There should be no need for age protection in the amateur ranks with rating based divisions! Is that what you are saying?

[Bullseye]

I'm rated 786 and got a raft of sht for playing Int at the Stumptown tournament out there. I only did it because there were 3 Ints and only one of me. I do kind of think it's unfair though. I definitely felt pressured to move up when Jamie and Dana did, even though I'd never won (or maybe even ever gotten 2nd) in Int. So now here I am as a bottom feeder in the Adv division... ho hum

You may not be winning in Advanced right now, but you will most certainly be in the hunt before you know it. I just took a quick look and lo and behold your rating has gone up 9 points in the past 6 months. You may not be seeing the results you'd like to see right away, but you are definitely on the way up girl!

[essjay]

Ahh thanks man! My rating took a huge hit after my craptacular performance last summer. I appreciate the encouragement! :kissflowers:



You may not be winning in Advanced right now, but you will most certainly be in the hunt before you know it. I just took a quick look and lo and behold your rating has gone up 9 points in the past 6 months. You may not be seeing the results you'd like to see right away, but you are definitely on the way up girl!

[Flash]

I'm rated 786 and got a raft of sht for playing Int at the Stumptown tournament out there. I only did it because there were 3 Ints and only one of me. I do kind of think it's unfair though. I definitely felt pressured to move up when Jamie and Dana did, even though I'd never won (or maybe even ever gotten 2nd) in Int. So now here I am as a bottom feeder in the Adv division... ho hum

Who are you kidding you know the PDGA keeps accurate records and you had 3 solid second place finishes in FW2 in 2007, and a first and a second in FW1 in 2008. :yay:

[Sam]

You may not be winning in Advanced right now, but you will most certainly be in the hunt before you know it. I just took a quick look and lo and behold your rating has gone up 9 points in the past 6 months. You may not be seeing the results you'd like to see right away, but you are definitely on the way up girl!

Wait a second, Jeff. This would seem to indicate that playing up makes one a better player. Say it ain't so... :laughing:

[Sausage Fingers]

Wait a second, Jeff. This would seem to indicate that playing up makes one a better player. Say it ain't so... :laughing:

Yeah Jeff drinks from the same kool-aid that you do...:pirate:

[essjay]

K well I didn't check my records before I posted that...I didn't remember getting second in Int in 2007, and I got dfl or close to it at most of the ORS tourneys last year...

But I am glad to be playing with those ladies, not because of the arguments you all are having, but because we all know the rules and ropes of tournament play, are respectful of eachother, and I always know I'll be on a great card!

:cheers:

[zippyboy]

Sweet Zombie Jesus! This has continued on this far?!?! Wow. I forgot how much of a hot-button issue this is for some people. Jesus.

My goal is to play in a division where I can compete. A division where, if I have a better than average round, I will be in the hunt for a spot on the top card. I have no desire to be in a division where I have an average or less round, and end up at the top of the final card (unless everyone else in my division had an equally crappy round). That being said, I also would prefer to not play an average round and be at the bottom of my division (unless everyone else in the division had spectacular rounds).

Trophies, certificates, scrip aren't as important to me as the competition is. Nothing sucks more than to be playing knowing that either A) no matter how well you throw, you're not gonna crack the top of your division, or B) no matter how poorly you throw, you're still going to win going away. For me, its all about the competition.

All that said, if I do well at the BMO, I may very well ask to be moved up in the RCO (though I don't play Pier well, at all).

~Z

[D-Walk]

A) no matter how well you throw, you're not gonna crack the top of your division

~Z

I don't know. My 776 rating and I had a great time at BSF in INT. It helped me to really look at my game and see where I fell apart. Now I know what specifics I need to work on to get ready for the next tournament.

[zippyboy]

I can respect that, D. However, I am not down for paying $50 for an education in disc golf. I am wanting to pay $50 for the rush of competition. Being out at Tuesday Twos every week has given me a pretty good idea of where my game is lacking. I would just prefer not to pay $50 to have that hammered home during a tourney.

[D-Walk]

I can respect that, D. However, I am not down for paying $50 for an education in disc golf. I am wanting to pay $50 for the rush of competition. Being out at Tuesday Twos every week has given me a pretty good idea of where my game is lacking. I would just prefer not to pay $50 to have that hammered home during a tourney.

Well it was either pay and play or sit on the sidelines and not have that experience. Considering the players packs alone covered the registration fee, not to mention the $50 gift certificate I won I feel it was money well spent, but I know where you are coming from my friend. :cheers:

[Scott]

I've played in about a dozen PDGA tournaments and have cashed twice. In both cases, I had to play my highest rated rounds to date just to get me to last cash. In every tournament, it has been very clear after the first round that I had no shot of winning.

I think you would be competitive in MA3. Also, you'll have the opportunity to meet and play with several players instead of being with the same couple of guys both rounds.

[Bullseye]

Yeah Jeff drinks from the same kool-aid that you do...:pirate:

Nah, I'm just willing to admit something is correct when I am staring it right in the face ;)

[smobro]

I am personally offended that we have gender based ratings. Most of the chicks kick my ass around the course all day long. I say there should be 2 divisions: Open and Am. Hee, hee, just stirring the pot. this is fun.:jumpspin:

[Scott]

I am personally offended that we have gender based ratings. Most of the chicks kick my ass around the course all day long. I say there should be 2 divisions: Open and Am. Hee, hee, just stirring the pot. this is fun.:jumpspin:

I know you're stirring the pot and based on the time or your post I'd say you're already into the wine, but you're actually on to something.

Rating's based divisions have been brought up before, and they make pretty good sense. Instead of having FPO, MPO, MM1, MA1. MA2, GPO, etc., you have <800, 800-850, 850-900, 900-950, and 950+. You play against players of similar skill. Doesn't matter if they are men, women, kids, or crusty. Sounds tasty to me.

[TreeLove]

Ratings-based events sound highly preferable to me. No more bagging!

[LegoRules]

I know you're stirring the pot and based on the time or your post I'd say you're already into the wine, but you're actually on to something.

Rating's based divisions have been brought up before, and they make pretty good sense. Instead of having FPO, MPO, MM1, MA1. MA2, GPO, etc., you have <800, 800-850, 850-900, 900-950, and 950+. You play against players of similar skill. Doesn't matter if they are men, women, kids, or crusty. Sounds tasty to me.

I would not mind playing in some ratings based tournaments, but I would be really disappointed if they were all like that. Don't get me wrong I like playing with the dudes, but it is nice to play with just chicks too.

Cindy :)

[Wog]

So, just to bring this back ON TOPIC for a minute, and then we can continue discussing ratings...

The Bad Monkey Open is 50% full with 4 weeks to go. Please encourage all amateurs out there to sign up. This should be a great event for all divisions, all ratings, all genders! We are adding to the players pack on a regular basis. We have almost $500 in sponsorship money that will go to additional prizes and scrip for winners. We are also working on a couple other events to take place during the weekend. Details coming soon!

Sign up at http://bmo.stumptowndg.com

[Dizzle]

Can anyone tell me what the disc choices are going to be at BMO? i only ask b/c i lost 3 at Trojan today and don't want to go buy something if i already have it coming to me....


Donnie

[zippyboy]

Is there any sort of preliminary schedule set up for this event yet? I am just curious, as I do have a prior engagement that Saturday evening. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

~Z

[douglaselvis]

After reading all the hooplah, 2 beers later, I still feel OK about the division that I chose. My rating allows me too and I have a chance of being competitive.

My question, am I a douchebag or a playa?? Maybe just a playa-hater'.

And yes, John does take geritol. And I believe, though not for sure, that he wears protective undergarments in case he soils himself!:p

Doug

PS ~ John - get an avatar old man!!! I'll show you how to work your new fangled 'puter when I see you!

[zippyboy]

Is there any sort of preliminary schedule set up for this event yet? I am just curious, as I do have a prior engagement that Saturday evening. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

~Z

Adding to my previous question... It is noted on Wog's website that there are two rounds on Saturday, and two rounds on Sunday. However, Gwillim noted that there are two rounds on Saturday, one round on Sunday - with the possibility of a final nine holes. Which is correct? Thanks in advance!

~Z

[Flash]

Adding to my previous question... It is noted on Wog's website that there are two rounds on Saturday, and two rounds on Sunday. However, Gwillim noted that there are two rounds on Saturday, one round on Sunday - with the possibility of a final nine holes. Which is correct? Thanks in advance!

~Z
I would go with Gwillim on this one, no time for two rounds on Sunday!

[gwillim]

Can anyone tell me what the disc choices are going to be at BMO?
Donnie

Sorry about taking so long to respond, I'm in New Hampshire right now and have been here for the last 5 days or so.

If I remember correctly, I ordered the following

Champion:
Teebirds
Valkyries
Wraiths
Leopards

DX:
Aviars
Rocs

The only one that I can't remember for sure is the Wraith. If I didn't order the Wraith, then it might have been a Monarch? But I'm pretty confident that I got the Wraith.

[gwillim]

Is there any sort of preliminary schedule set up for this event yet? I am just curious, as I do have a prior engagement that Saturday evening. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Adding to my previous question... It is noted on Wog's website that there are two rounds on Saturday, and two rounds on Sunday. However, Gwillim noted that there are two rounds on Saturday, one round on Sunday - with the possibility of a final nine holes. Which is correct? Thanks in advance!

~Z

Zippy,

1) I can't say for sure what the schedule is for Saturday at this time.

2) There will be two rounds on Saturday and one round on Sunday for ALL participants. There will also be a final 9 on Sunday for the top 4 MA1 players.

I'll be back in town tonight so I should be able to answer questions quicker starting tomorrow.

-gw

[zippyboy]

Zippy,

1) I can't say for sure what the schedule is for Saturday at this time.

2) There will be two rounds on Saturday and one round on Sunday for ALL participants. There will also be a final 9 on Sunday for the top 4 MA1 players.

I'll be back in town tonight so I should be able to answer questions quicker starting tomorrow.

-gw

Thank you, sir. I am just hopin that the rounds on Saturady don't go too far into the afternoon/evening. I would think that with 12 (or 13) holes, two rounds couldn't take too long...

~Z

[gwillim]

Thank you, sir. I am just hopin that the rounds on Saturady don't go too far into the afternoon/evening. I would think that with 12 (or 13) holes, two rounds couldn't take too long...

~Z

I don't know what time your shindig is, but I doubt you'll have a problem. Just don't want to make any guarantees at this point!

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Not a whole lot of room left for this event. Sign up now or you may not get in. :waaah:

Bob

[Brody Cannon]

Not a whole lot of room left for this event. Sign up now or you may not get in. :waaah:

Bob

SIGN ME UP! I'm definitely going to play this! Just gotta make it official when I get back in town.. hopefully it's not full by then!

["Over the Hill" Bob]

SIGN ME UP! I'm definitely going to play this! Just gotta make it official when I get back in town.. hopefully it's not full by then!

You don't have to be in town to reg.

Register online at http://bmo.stumptowndg.com

Bob

[D-Walk]

Has there been any mention about food for this event? Will there be any provided or available?

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Has there been any mention about food for this event? Will there be any provided or available?

I've got a pepperoni stick in my bag and you're welcome to share it with me. :cheers:

Bob

[gwillim]

Has there been any mention about food for this event? Will there be any provided or available?

Food will not be provided. I'm not sure if it will be available on-sight at this point.

Everyone will have plenty of time for their lunch, however, since we're doing pools. There are a few restaurants close by, and a Safeway with a deli less than 1/2 a mile away.

[D-Walk]

Food will not be provided. I'm not sure if it will be available on-sight at this point.

Everyone will have plenty of time for their lunch, however, since we're doing pools. There are a few restaurants close by, and a Safeway with a deli less than 1/2 a mile away.

Awesome. That's all i needed to know. Thanks Ryan. I should be good with the half of Bob's pepperoni stick. that should give me enough energy for the second round. :trophy:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

I'm looking forward to the battle with Spencer Stuart. The young and the old collide. This kid will most likely eat me up but it will be interesting. :shooting:

Bob:D

[Scott]

I'm looking forward to the battle with Spencer Stuart. The young and the old collide. This kid will most likely eat me up but it will be interesting. :shooting:

Bob:D

Hope it goes better than your battles with Matthew Hill. :whistler:

Just kidding, old man. Hope you rip that little kid a new one. :laughing:

[douglaselvis]

Just kidding, old man. Hope you rip that little kid a new one.
I laughed out loud at that one!! Nice Scott!



Oh Spencers ready!!! Finally some competition! :shooting:

I think you just fired him up!!!

We're both looking forward to this one!!!

Doug

[Scott]

Just kidding, old man. Hope you rip that little kid a new one.
I laughed out loud at that one!! Nice Scott!



Oh Spencers ready!!! Finally some competition! :shooting:

I think you just fired him up!!!

We're both looking forward to this one!!!

Doug


Man - I really wish Matthew and I could make this. He's been dying for some competition his age. There just doesn't seem to be any around here.

[Minordiety]

Man - I really wish Matthew and I could make this. He's been dying for some competition his age. There just doesn't seem to be any around here.


I think Spence is in for a real treat. Getting to play Disc Golf with OTH Bob and Steve McMahan is one of my more favorite activities. These guys rock and will surely school Spence in the real meaning of the game --FUN!!!

:yay::yay::yay::yay::yay:

[johnny lamotte]

i cant wait till this event its going to be awsome!!!!

[gwillim]

Bump:

If you're considering playing the Bad Monkey Open, it will make it easier on Steve and I if you do it sooner rather than later.

:)

[Bruce]

So how much griping would their be if I played in this? Just curious is all!

["Over the Hill" Bob]

So how much griping would their be if I played in this? Just curious is all!

For sure no griping if you caddy for me. :biggrin2:

Bob

[Minordiety]

So how much griping would their be if I played in this? Just curious is all!

If I knew who you were, I'd probably gripe in a major way. Seriously, i'm tired of comptetition. :nahnah:

Perhaps drinking and not posting is the way to go on this forum.


So who are you anyway, Bruce?

[Bruce]

I am me, of course. Actually I moved up to Pro about a year ago, just haven't cashed, and my awesome tournament play lately has helped tank my rating.

[Sam]

They have already griped about me playing. What do you think they will say about YOU playing? You can probably park hole 7's basket from the 1 teepad!

Yeah, man. Bring it. Let's tear this shizzle up. :cheers:

[Sam]

i cant wait till this event its going to be awsome!!!!

Ladies and gentlemen... your Intermediate Champion*

* This is a prediction. Kid keeps tearing up Lunchtime League. Too bad that handicap kicks in next week. :laughing:

[gwillim]

So how much griping would their be if I played in this? Just curious is all!

I would like to have you play. I don't think there will be much griping. You haven't cashed in Open, and your rating would puts you at an MA1 level. Go for it!

[smobro]

They have already griped about me playing. What do you think they will say about YOU playing? You can probably park hole 7's basket from the 1 teepad!

Yeah, man. Bring it. Let's tear this shizzle up. :cheers:

Sam, did you seriously just say shizzle? It's official folks the word shizzle has now been removed from the ebonic dictionary and placed in Websters.:laughing:

[Wog]

We just set a new record for disc golf in Southwest Washington. The Bad Monkey Open will be the largest disc golf tournament ever held in SW Washington.

[sands.steven]

I'm In

Lets do this !!!!!

["Over the Hill" Bob]

We just set a new record for disc golf in Southwest Washington. The Bad Monkey Open will be the largest disc golf tournament ever held in SW Washington.

Disc Golf is alive and well in SW Washington! :yay:

Can't wait to get the Monkey off my back. :D

Bob

[Bruce]

After my experience today and a slight..anger issue, I think I will miss this tournament. Good luck Steve, Ryan and the crew putting this on!

[Dizzle]

BMO is gonna ROCK. Lets Dance intermediates......:shooting: :shooting::shooting::shooting::shooting::shooting: :shooting::shooting::shooting::shooting::shooting: :shooting::shooting:

:rockon:

:evilgrin:

Donnie

[Scotty B]

I was out at leverich on saturday and noticed that most of the natural tee pads were in pretty bad shape is this something that is going to be attended to and do we need to show up early to help out I just want the course to be represented well so that future tournaments will draw more people. Please let me know if there are any plans to spruce the place up a little before the tourney.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

I was out at leverich on saturday and noticed that most of the natural tee pads were in pretty bad shape is this something that is going to be attended to and do we need to show up early to help out I just want the course to be represented well so that future tournaments will draw more people. Please let me know if there are any plans to spruce the place up a little before the tourney.

Yes, there are plans being made to spuce up the course and tee pads. Further discussion at the Stumptown meeting Tuesday night at Next Adventure. 7:30-9:00

Bob

[TreeLove]

We just set a new record for disc golf in Southwest Washington. The Bad Monkey Open will be the largest disc golf tournament ever held in SW Washington.

Really? Bigger than a certain muddy private-course, now-invitational that shall remain nameless?

[Minordiety]

Yes, there are plans being made to spuce up the course and tee pads. Further discussion at the Stumptown meeting Tuesday night at Next Adventure. 7:30-9:00

Bob

:yay: for sprucing up the tee pads. They're a little on the scary side.

[Brody Cannon]

Signed up online. Will bring the money to whoever at Tuesday Twos tomorrow.

[Wog]

Really? Bigger than a certain muddy private-course, now-invitational that shall remain nameless?

Good point...How about the largest PDGA sanctioned event in SW Wash.

[Wog]

For those of you that can't make the meeting tomorrow...Come out and bring shovels so we can flatten the tee pads at Leverich this coming Saturday at 9 a.m. We will have rubber tee pads for the tournament, but need a good base so we can put the pads down on smooth ground, not bumpy rutted ground.

Also, if anyone is available Saturday before the tournament to help put out the pads your help will be appreciated and rewarded as appropriate. Contact me if you are available!

[TreeLove]

Signed up online. Will bring the money to whoever at Tuesday Twos tomorrow.

How does one sign up online without paying? I did not know that was possible....

[gwillim]

How does one sign up online without paying? I did not know that was possible....

There is an option at the checkout to pay via check and snail mail.

[gwillim]

Signed up online. Will bring the money to whoever at Tuesday Twos tomorrow.

Brody,
No one is going to be at TT tonight to take your check. There's a Stumptown meeting. Please send it via snail mail to the address on the checkout site. Thx.

[TreeLove]

There is an option at the checkout to pay via check and snail mail.

Cool - I never knew that. By the way, Stumptown is my FAVORITE online disc golf event signup web site, by FAR - great job, webmaster!

[gwillim]

Cool - I never knew that. By the way, Stumptown is my FAVORITE online disc golf event signup web site, by FAR - great job, webmaster!

100% Steve Carson there!

[Wog]

We are almost full. Last chance to sign up this week.

[zippyboy]

Arrugh! Is there ANY sort of rough schedule yet? I REALLY want to sign myself, my beloved, and her son up for this, and having a rough idea of times would help a great deal! Any info is appreciated. Thanks!

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Arrugh! Is there ANY sort of rough schedule yet? I REALLY want to sign myself, my beloved, and her son up for this, and having a rough idea of times would help a great deal! Any info is appreciated. Thanks!

Gwillim said last night he should have the schedule posted by the end of the week. I really hope everything works out so that you can play.

Bob

[Wog]

The "Rough Schedule" is posted on DiscGolfScene.com (http://www.discgolfscene.com/tournaments/2009_Bad_Monkey_Open)

We'll be posting the pool assignments by Monday at the latest.

Most likely Intermediate and below will play in pool A and Advanced, Advanced Master and women's divisions will be in pool B. Others will fit in as necessary. This is purely speculation and will depend on the final numbers. Do not make plans based on this posting.

[zippyboy]

Thanks for the info, Steve. Based upon that, I signed the three of us up!

If anyone else wants in on this, you'd better hurry! Looks like only 16 or so spots are left!!!

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Thanks for the info, Steve. Based upon that, I signed the three of us up!

If anyone else wants in on this, you'd better hurry! Looks like only 16 or so spots are left!!!

Everybody remember that food is not provided so either bring food or plan to run out to eat between rounds. Theirs food nearby. I will have dvd's of the Rose City Open 2007 with me for sale as fund-raiser for this years RCO. $20 for an opportunity to help support the RCO AND it is a fun one to watch. See then, future world champion, Dave Feldberg manage the course at Pier Park.

Can't wait to Monkey around at the Bad Monkey!

Bob

[Wog]

There are plenty of Eateries nearby but you'll want to go to Dairy Queen on main street in Vancouver. They are a sponsor of the course and the Bad Monkey Open.

http://www.discgolfscene.com/media/12728_g.jpg

[Sam]

I will have dvd's of the Rose City Open 2007 with me for sale as fund-raiser for this years RCO. $20 for an opportunity to help support the RCO AND it is a fun one to watch. See then, future world champion, Dave Feldberg manage the course at Pier Park.

Huh... you'd think the TD would have gotten a copy for free. :whistler:

Kidding. I will take one of those off of your hands next Saturday, Bob.

:cheers:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Huh... you'd think the TD would have gotten a copy for free. :whistler:

Kidding. I will take one of those off of your hands next Saturday, Bob.

:cheers:

Funny how the TD is always the last to be recognized sometimes isn't it. We try to make sure to take care of the people that help out and ask nothing for ourselves. There IS reward however, in the good feeling we get from what we do. I do appreciate your time to make the RCO the anticipated event it has become. I'll see you on the battle field at the BMO.

Bob

[Brody Cannon]

Just played Leverich for the first time yesterday! It's a beautiful place! Nearly got lost a couple times in the first round but the map helped guide me back on track. Shot -2, -4, and -7. The final round (-7) included 2 or 3 missed putts from 30 ft. Can't wait to play with the new tee pads considering that i nearly fell on my face a few times.
Just a couple questions... I'm sure they've probably been answered already...

Will any holes be changed?
What placements will the baskets be in?
Where will the added holes be?

[Wog]

Will any holes be changed?
What placements will the baskets be in?
Where will the added holes be?

Here's a link to the current plan for the course.

Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=http:%2F%2Fwww.vcdg.org%2Ffiles%2FLeverich_BMO1. kmz&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=17)


There will be alternate placements for Saturday & Sunday
We are adding one hole (9A)

[Sam]

Wow... that last round looks like there could be some serious clusterstuff going on with the crossing of fairways on holes 1 and 12 & 2 and 5, for example.

[Wog]

Last round is a Final 9 for the top 4 Advanced players only. Crossing fairways won't matter since there is only one group playing.

[Sam]

Well there you go then. So... two rounds will be played on one of the layouts. I suppose it depends on when you move the baskets, though, right? Any idea on when that will happen and which layout will be played twice?

[blu666z]

That map has three layouts.

[Sam]

Correct. One of those layouts will have to be played twice in order for us to have three rounds since the purple layout is only for the final 9 - after the third round of the tournament on Sunday.

:cheers:

[blu666z]

AH...reading back I realize there is a third round on Sunday in addition to the final 9. My mistake.

[Sam]

No worries. I am hoping that the baskets get moved after Saturday's first round so that we can play layout 2 twice. Looks fun and I love the under-the-bridge tee idea for normal hole 4. I am assuming that the order of play would be hole 1, hole 3, hole 4, etc. since hole 2 appears to be removed for this layout?

[Brody Cannon]

How strict will the OBs be? Will it be like all pavement and beyond or just pavement or what?

[Sam]

If you look at the map and click on the holes, most have OB stated there.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

If you look at the map and click on the holes, most have OB stated there.

But what it doesn't say is that when a player goes OB, the rest of the group hollers, "Bad Monkey, Bad Monkey". :biggrin2:

Bob

[gwillim]

But what it doesn't say is that when a player goes OB, the rest of the group hollers, "Bad Monkey, Bad Monkey". :biggrin2:

Bob

We'll go over this at the player's meeting when we have everyone's full attention.

[gwillim]

http://blog.ryangwillim.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bmo_discs-500x375.jpg

Mmmmmmm

[Brody Cannon]

http://blog.ryangwillim.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bmo_discs-500x375.jpg

Mmmmmmm

Save the blue ones for me!
What discs do we get to choose from?

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Save the blue ones for me!
What discs do we get to choose from?

You get to choose from the disc's in the picture. :whistler:

Bob

[gwillim]

You get to choose from the disc's in the picture. :whistler:

Bob

What he said.









champ:
wraith
teebird
valkyrie
leopard
CFR cro

dx:
aviar
roc

(u get one champ and one dx)

[gwillim]

All 165g and lower are getting reserved for the ladies and the juniors and anyone over 50. Basically, if you don't HAVE to have lightweight plastic, we need you to understand that others do and that those who do NEED the lighter plastic get first chance at it. Thanks for your understanding.

One more thing. There are LOTS of each mold. Please don't contact me to "reserve" any discs, I can't do that as it's not fair for other ppl.

[Wog]

http://www.vcdg.org/BMO2009

Updated map, schedule and Proposed Pool Assignments posted at the above link. <- All Subject to change!

[zippyboy]

All 165g and lower are getting reserved for the ladies and the juniors and anyone over 50. Basically, if you don't HAVE to have lightweight plastic, we need you to understand that others do and that those who do NEED the lighter plastic get first chance at it. Thanks for your understanding.

Awesome. Thanks, Gwillim. My beloved and her son were worried they wouldn't be able to get lighter weight discs.

[gwillim]

Awesome. Thanks, Gwillim. My beloved and her son were worried they wouldn't be able to get lighter weight discs.

I'm about 95% sure we took care of your Saturday evening scheduling issues also!

[Scott]

What he said.









champ:
wraith
teebird
valkyrie
leopard
CFR cro

dx:
aviar
roc

(u get one champ and one dx)


Any fundraisers in there, or are they all for PP?

[zippyboy]

I'm about 95% sure we took care of your Saturday evening scheduling issues also!


Awesome, sir. Thanks much! :cheers:

[gwillim]

Any fundraisers in there, or are they all for PP?
We have CFR Glow Destroyers that are not for the P.P. I'm not sure how many are available for sale. I need some for trophies and such, I'll publicize it when I figure out, probably no later than Monday.

I know for a fact that there will be custom BMO discs for u to purchase, Scott!

[zippyboy]

I too would be interested in one of the CFR Glow Destroyers. I don't have enough money to sponsor a hole, but I could probably plunk down on a disc to support.

Also, I am more than willing to help between whatever rounds I am throwing in, if need be. Let me know.

[Scott]

We have CFR Glow Destroyers that are not for the P.P. I'm not sure how many are available for sale. I need some for trophies and such, I'll publicize it when I figure out, probably no later than Monday.

I know for a fact that there will be custom BMO discs for u to purchase, Scott!

Excellent! Perhaps I will see you next Tuesday?

[gwillim]

Excellent! Perhaps I will see you next Tuesday?

I'm hoping to be there for TT. I won't know until after the weekend, however.

Zippy:
I'm sure we can find something for u to do betwix your rounds! :)

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Awesome. Thanks, Gwillim. My beloved and her son were worried they wouldn't be able to get lighter weight discs.

Your beloved, her son, AND this old man. :biggrin2:

Bob

[Scotty B]

http://www.vcdg.org/BMO2009

Updated map, schedule and Proposed Pool Assignments posted at the above link. <- All Subject to change!


I assume that proposed means that it may be changed when will this be set in stone this is vital to family planning.

thanks
Scotty B

[gwillim]

I assume that proposed means that it may be changed when will this be set in stone this is vital to family planning.

thanks
Scotty B

Scotty,
We will have the pools assigned by the end of the day. We are just doing some last minute calculations to make sure that everything works and we won't have any major problems come "go" time.
Thx,
Ryan

[Wog]

There are only three spots left for Advanced, Intermediate and Advanced Masters! Sign up NOW

[Bruce]

Not sure if I'll play or not, but signed up just in case I do.

[gwillim]

Not sure if I'll play or not, but signed up just in case I do.

Bruce,
I know the logic behind your decision works, but you really shouldn't sign up unless you're planning on playing for real. Otherwise you are taking the opportunity away from another player, and creating more work for the TDs.

I think you're really planning on playing though, right? :cheers:

-Ryan

[Sam]

You're playing! Serious... I won't bring my dog or my kid. Probably. :whistler:

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Bruce is playing, or I'm giving him noogies. :cool2:

Bob

[Trozzle!!!]

I am looking for a ride to this from anyone from the Hillsboro/Beaverton area. I live in the Tanasbourne area. right by the Streets of Tanasbourne Mall.

[Wog]

Players: You should have received an e-mail with detail related to the tournament. If you did not get the e-mail please let me know and I'll forward it to you.

We will be closing registrations tomorrow at midnight. Last chance!!!!!

Did anyone mention we have an Innova Discatcher Traveler (http://www.innovadiscs.com/discatcher/traveler.html) that we will be giving away to one player chosen at random? Well we are!

[Brody Cannon]

Players: You should have received an e-mail with detail related to the tournament. If you did not get the e-mail please let me know and I'll forward it to you.

We will be closing registrations tomorrow at midnight. Last chance!!!!!

Did anyone mention we have an Innova Discatcher Traveler (http://www.innovadiscs.com/discatcher/traveler.html) that we will be giving away to one player chosen at random? Well we are!

I haven't received any emails yet..

Does the basket giveaway have to be random?? I think it should be given to the person with the best height to weight ratio... or maybe to the person with the longest legs... or the youngest person playing advanced... or the person that can come up with the most lame categories just so he can attempt to swing the odds in his favor... :chinscratch:
:biggrin2:

[Brody Cannon]

I haven't received any emails yet..



Just kidding, I found it in my junk mail.

[gwillim]

Does the basket giveaway have to be random?? I think it should be given to the person with the best height to weight ratio... or maybe to the person with the longest legs.

We thought about doing one of the two of these, but then we decided it wouldn't be fair for one of the TDs to take home the basket...so it gonna be random.

[Ms Thing]

Our family is really looking forward to this event, though my son and I were the only ones in our division as of Sunday night.

We are off to play a practice round tonight.

[Bruce]

I never received an email.

[Sausage Fingers]

I never received an email.

Did you look in Brody Cannon's Junk Mail folder? It's a popular spot for e-mail...:pirate:

[Trozzle!!!]

If there is a waiting list, and you are on it, might as well show up. Unless I find a ride soon, there may be at least 1 opening available :(

[TreeLove]

Trozzle: Can you get on the Max? I could pick you up and drop you off at Goose Hollow...

[Trozzle!!!]

let me check the bus and max schedule from my house for those days and I will let you know. Thanks :cheers:

[Wog]

Email contents:

The course has been meticously cared for by a great team of volunteers. The weather forecast is for awesome weather. We have full fields for most divisions. The sponsors are preparing their displays and hopefully you are practicing your putting skills!

Schedule:

Day 1: Saturday, June 27, 2009
7:45am Pool A - Registration / Check-in
8:30am Pool A - Players meeting
9:00am Pool A - Tee off
10:00am Pool B - Registration / Check-in
10:45am Pool B - Player's Meeting
11:15am Pool B - Tee off
1:00pm Pool A - Round 2 Players Mtg
1:30pm Pool A - Round 2 Tee Off
3:15pm Pool B - Round 2 Player's Mtg
3:45pm Pool B - Round 2 Tee Off
Day 2: Sunday, June 28, 2009
9:30am Pool B - Final Round Player's Mtg
10:00am Pool B - Final Round Tee off
11:45am Pool A - Final Round Player's Mtg
12:15pm Pool A - Final Round Tee off
2:30pm Advanced Players - Final 9
4:30pm Award Ceremony

Pool Assignments

Pool B
Advanced, Intermediate, Adv. Master
MA1, MA2, MM1

Pool A
All Other Divisions
MA3, MA4, FW1, FW2, FW3, MJ#, etc.

Course Layout:

If you haven't seen the interactive map for the course I recommend you check out the following map by clicking the link and review the course layouts for Saturday and Sunday.

Click to View Interactive Map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=embed&hl=en&geocode&q=http:%2F%2Fwww.vcdg.org%2Ffiles%2FLeverich_BMO1. kmz&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=45.651946,-122.659049&spn=0.003,0.005364)

Parking:

Please review the map and follow the signs when you arrive at the park on Saturday. The south lot (by hole 1 & 12) will be closed for the weekend. There will some spectator parking along the road near 39th street, however, parking for players is in the far north parking lot and you will enter the park on Discovery Trail passing hole 10 on your way to the picnic shelter which will be Tournament Central for the weekend. The center parking lot is reserved for VIPs, sponsors, volunteers, and guests ONLY. You are welcome to use that log for loading and unloading only. There is also a small gravel parking area on the west side of Leverich Park Way as you head down the hill, but DO NOT park along the road on the east side of the road as that is a no parking zone and cars have been towed from this area in the past.

Last minute changes:

There are only a few spots left for rec, novice, women and junior players. If you konw of someone that qualifies to play in these divisions please encourage them to register today. Also, if you are considering a change of divisions for any reason you MUST make that request before midnight Tuesday. As a courtesy to potential players on the wait list, if an emergency arises and you cannot play this weekend please e-mail or call us so we can allow someone else to take your place.

We are very excited for this weekend. If you have any questions or there is anything we can do to make your experience better this weekend don't hesitate to ask. We'll do our best to get you an answer or try to accomodate your special request.

Finally, please check the PDGA registration web page to make sure your information has been entered correctly. If there are any corrections please e-mail as soon as possible and let us know.

Steve & Ryan
Co-Tournament Directors
Bad Monkey Open


www.vcdg.org
www.discgolfscene.com
PDGA Registration List (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9175#Advanced)

[Wog]

We had one drop from Pool B. If anyone wants to move up to Intermediate or Advanced divisions please e-mail/PM me as soon as possible.

[TreeLove]

Trozzle may need to move up in order to get into my pool so that he can ride with me...

[Trozzle!!!]

I already got myself moved up to Int, so that should be pool B, same as you.

[TreeLove]

Right on!

[Trozzle!!!]

Dont put my spot open to the waiting list, I got a ride!!!! Thanks Gawain :cheers:

[Wog]

Players will be receiving a Player's Guide when they register at Tournament Central on Saturday. Those wishing to read ahead can download the pdf and print your own.

[Minordiety]

Players will be receiving a Player's Guide when they register at Tournament Central on Saturday. Those wishing to read ahead can download the pdf and print your own.

Steve and Ryan,

The course looks awesome. Thanks for your work putting this together. See you tomorrow.

[LegoRules]

Steve and Ryan,

The course looks awesome. Thanks for your work putting this together. See you tomorrow.


Yeah koodos to you guys. :yay: I really like the addition of the steps going down to 2, and then back up from the bowl. :rockon: The McMahan's are looking forward to this event. :rockon:

Cindy :)

[douglaselvis]

The STUART's are also looking forward to this event!! :biggrin2:

[Wog]

Latest news posted at: http://vcdg.org/BMO2009

[gwillim]

Just finished the trophies, here are a couple of them...
http://blog.ryangwillim.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bmotrophy_01.jpg
http://blog.ryangwillim.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bmotrophy_02-416x500.jpg

I'll be at Leverich tomorrow around 5:45am if anyone wants to join me. :)

[Wog]

I don't really WANT to join you, but I'll be there too!

[Trozzle!!!]

Sweet!!! you got my trophy all ready for me :)

[Scott]

Sweet!!! you got my trophy all ready for me :)

Glad to see you're finally moving up to FW1.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Glad to see you're finally moving up to FW1.

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

Bob