Oregon State Championships

[Sam]

It is time to take this event to the next level. In my opinion, this would include (but not be limited to):

* PDGA sanctioning
* multi-day event
* multi-course event

It might be too late to do much this year but it would be in our best interest to start moving this event in this direction. We will, of course, need a TD willing to direct this initiative and make this happen. I nominiate Magilla. :whistler:

OK, seriously, though... the time is well-past that we make this happen. Who's interested in helping out with this?

[all2common]

I am interested in helping out, however I think that it would be a good tournament for Stumptown Disc Golf to take on as directing...nothing against you Magilla.

[Sam]

I think that that would be a great idea but I don't think that they will do it. There are those in the upper echelons of SDG who believe that this tournament belongs to Jerry Miller and they don't want to step on his toes.


That said, I will suggest it at the next meeting - tomorrow night at Lunchtime. :cheers:

[Magilla]

I am interested in helping out, however I think that it would be a good tournament for Stumptown Disc Golf to take on as directing...nothing against you Magilla.

Not that I am against ANYONE running events.....properly...
How is "Stumptown" anymore qualified than any other region of the state??
:wink2:

There are a "few" events that are on my mind that could "suppliment" our current PDGA lineup......

Oregon Open :
This will be a PDGA event to decide our State Rep to USDGC.
Details & Venue to be determined

Oregon State Flying Disc Championships :
This will be an OVERALL event with multiple events...
DiscGolf, Distance, Accuracy, Self-Caught Flight, DDC, Freestyle
The DiscGolf portion of this WILL be PDGA Sanctioned and COULD be used as the "State Championships"

Venue to be determined BUT U of O, O St or simialr venue is needed due to the size of Grass fields required.

PDGA Match Play Championships :
I ran this event in NorCal prior to moving here.
It is time to bring it back for good..........
This event has the potential of being our "USDGC" well into the future.
It was origianlly designed for a Pro Only weekend BUT I would be willing to run an AM event as well...

Venue to be Determined - ANYONE with "Ideas" or suggestions should contact me NOW!!

:trophy:

[Flatroc]

It is time to take this event to the next level. In my opinion, this would include (but not be limited to):* PDGA sanctioning

I call horseshit and bullshit on this mainly because I think it would segregate some of the talented players this state has.
:biggrin2:

[Sam]

OK... what about for this year? We could run a two-day event at Trojan/Dabney or Timber/Milo or... ?

[Sam]

I call horseshit and bullshit on this mainly because I think it would segregate some of the talented players this state has.
:biggrin2:

Why? If they would like a chance at the State Championship, they would have to suck it up and pay their $10 fine for not being a PDGA member and compete.

I don't know that there is another state in the US that has a state championship that is not sanctioned...

[Tim]

hehe, check out the grumbling on the WA state championships thread on ODSA. It's not sanctioned either, but with that lack of sanctioning, it puts more money in the players' pockets. $700 payout to 1st place for a tourney that had less than 40 players isn't too shabby. That being said, there are lots of things that I think could be done to make the tournament better, but I don't know if sanctioning is the key to it.

[all2common]

I don't know that there is another state in the US that has a state championship that is not sanctioned...

Washington just held theirs. I think that it was not sanctioned.

Not that I am against ANYONE running events.....properly...
How is "Stumptown" anymore qualified than any other region of the state??


I just think that it would be a great warm-up for the RCO that they will or should put on next year.

PDGA Match Play Championships :
I ran this event in NorCal prior to moving here.
It is time to bring it back for good..........
This event has the potential of being our "USDGC" well into the future.
It was origianlly designed for a Pro Only weekend BUT I would be willing to run an AM event as well...

Venue to be Determined - ANYONE with "Ideas" or suggestions should contact me NOW!

Now that sounds awesome! Although I must admit my ignorance and say that I'm not real clear on how match play works or how it's different than how tournaments are play now.

[Sam]

Justin, we play stroke play in tournaments. Match play is where you are matched against another golfer and only need to beat him/her in that round in order to advance.

I realized after I posted that Washington just had theirs and that it was non-sanctioned. As sanctioning for a B-tier is just $125, I think we could get that covered through sponsorships easily enough (or fundraiser discs or events...) and keep the payouts high.

[proto something or other]

Oregon State Flying Disc Championships :
This will be an OVERALL event with multiple events...
DiscGolf, Distance, Accuracy, Self-Caught Flight, DDC, Freestyle
The DiscGolf portion of this WILL be PDGA Sanctioned and COULD be used as the "State Championships"


I think this used to be called the "Oregon Overalls" or something similar. I have a t-shirt lying around here somewhere...

I believe the last incarnation of this event was in 2000 or 1999.

[Bullseye]

I call horseshit and bullshit on this mainly because I think it would segregate some of the talented players this state has.
:biggrin2:

Having an event sanctioned by the ONLY official sanctioning body this sport has gives the event a level of legitimacy it would not otherwise have.

Plus, having something sanctioned does not FORCE anyone to join the PDGA if they don't want to. They can always simply pay the one-day fee and play just like everyone else.

Jeff

[Bullseye]

I am interested in helping out, however I think that it would be a good tournament for Stumptown Disc Golf to take on as directing...nothing against you Magilla.

Not that I am against ANYONE running events.....properly...
How is "Stumptown" anymore qualified than any other region of the state??

I don't see all2common's comment inferring that anyone is any more or less qualified than anyone else.

I would love to see Stumptown Disc Golf take this on and I'd love to help out in some manner... provided I can still play. :cool2:

[Flatroc]

Having an event sanctioned by the ONLY official sanctioning body this sport has gives the event a level of legitimacy it would not otherwise have.

Would you please care to elaborate on your definition of legitimacy? :confused:
If you won your division at a non PDGA sanctioned event called the OREGON STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS would you not feel like you were the best in your field within the whole state?
What would it take away from playing your best and winning if it wasn't a PDGA sanctioned event?
I've seen you throw bro and feel you could be the one to beat. :biggrin2:
Well, maybe one of those pesky G'man fans could whoop ya.:whistler:

[Flatroc]

Not that I am against ANYONE running events.....properly...
How is "Stumptown" anymore qualified than any other region of the state??


In all fairness to the "rest of the state" perhaps you could recruit prominent dg rep's from within the whole state and work out some plans.
Otherwise it seems you could just name it the Portland State Championships.
No offense to any PDXer's or their courses.;)

[KenGilmore]

If you won your division at a non PDGA sanctioned event called the OREGON STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS would you not feel like you were the best in your field within the whole state? People already win their division in a non-PDGA sanctioned event called the OREGON STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS and are largely not regarded as the best in their field in the whole state nor as the state champions.

I don't think it is solely based on whether the event is PDGA sanctioned or not, but I do think it is largely based on the overall perception of the "legitimacy" of the tournament itself. In this case, a one day tournament at Timber park doesn't feel like the legitimate way to crown the state champion.

What do I think a legitimate state championship tourney looks like?
- 2 days
- played on 1 or more of the state's premier courses (could rotate every year)
- PDGA sanctioned, since that is the sport's governing body

[proto something or other]

People already win their division in a non-PDGA sanctioned event called the OREGON STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS and are largely not regarded as the best in their field in the whole state nor as the state champions.

I don't think it is solely based on whether the event is PDGA sanctioned or not, but I do think it is largely based on the overall perception of the "legitimacy" of the tournament itself. In this case, a one day tournament at Timber park doesn't feel like the legitimate way to crown the state champion.

What do I think a legitimate state championship tourney looks like?
- 2 days
- played on 1 or more of the state's premier courses (could rotate every year)
- PDGA sanctioned, since that is the sport's governing body


Ken is right on with this. I agree with all of the above.

[Sam]

As do I.

I definitely think that the courses should rotate on a yearly basis. I think Adair/Willamette would be an excellent venue for this. Sisters/Bend. Eugene/Albany. The possibilities are endless.

That we are even having this conversation is a step in the right direction, in my opinion.

[Flatroc]

I think it should be at a course that offers little to no "home chain" advantage.
Centrally located would be nice too.
All personal and biased opinions put aside,:rolleyes2: perhaps the new Jerry Miller course. It is sort of in the middle of the state and probably won't get played by a majority of golfers.
:biggrin2:

[Bullseye]

Would you please care to elaborate on your definition of legitimacy? :confused:
If you won your division at a non PDGA sanctioned event called the OREGON STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS would you not feel like you were the best in your field within the whole state?
What would it take away from playing your best and winning if it wasn't a PDGA sanctioned event?
I've seen you throw bro and feel you could be the one to beat. :biggrin2:
Well, maybe one of those pesky G'man fans could whoop ya.:whistler:

Well, to be honest I did win my division (Intermediate) in a non-sanctioned Oregon State Championship. I'm not in ANY way criticizing Jerry Miller at Disc Golf Depot because, as always, he ran a great tournament, but it always bothered me that his tourneys were not sanctioned.

I realize it is a personal preference, but I really just prefer playing sanctioned events. I like the fact that my rounds are rated and I can refer back to them at a later date and see how my game has (or has not) progressed.

[KenGilmore]

I think it should be at a course that offers little to no "home chain" advantage.
Centrally located would be nice too.
All personal and biased opinions put aside,:rolleyes2: perhaps the new Jerry Miller course. It is sort of in the middle of the state and probably won't get played by a majority of golfers.
:biggrin2: Unfortunately, there is no such thing as a course with no "home chain" advantage except for temporary courses that exist solely for a given tournament.

Also, having the tournament in the middle of the state favors the middle of the state. That is why the most fair approach is to distribute the unfairness out as evenly as possible... by using different courses in different locations every year. This allows us to have different clubs/regions host the state championships every year (kinda like a mini worlds).

This also solves another unfairness problem... even courses as AWESOME as Milo East and West provide a very specific type of challenge that favors certain types of players over others. By moving around to different courses, you distribute the type of player/challenge that is favored.

I personally favor the notion of using at least two courses, each maybe providing a different type of challenge (e.g. short and technical versus long and open).

I would suggest that clubs/regions/etc put out bids for hosting the state championships every year and that a selection process is used to determine where the state championships are held in a given year. I also feel that this is an area where the state coordinator should be involved and could add a lot of value to Oregon disc golf.

[Sam]

I like Ken. He's smart.

:cheers:

[snap7times]

The Jerry Miller DG course @ Camp Taloali should have the 18 permenant holes ready for public use next spring, however it would probably be better for tournament play by late sept, early october of 2009. Plus a temporary 18 can be put up on the other part of the camp to have 2 full 18's, completely the opposite of eachother as for style etc. That is already our plan for special tournaments and this could be one of them. I'm not nominating the course, just speaking what we have planned. Plans are meant to be changed.... However, anyone can look at the course(s) this october at our work party.... i will post most of the details of that on odsa...

[Magilla]

I think this used to be called the "Oregon Overalls" or something similar. I have a t-shirt lying around here somewhere...

I believe the last incarnation of this event was in 2000 or 1999.

I would be VERY interested in getting info/speaking to individuals involved in previous Overall event in Oregon.
I'll check with WFDF and see if there is any sanctioning history...
:rockon:

[Magilla]

by using different courses in different locations every year. This allows us to have different clubs/regions host the state championships every year (kinda like a mini worlds).
:yay: :yay: :yay:


I would suggest that clubs/regions/etc put out bids for hosting the state championships every year and that a selection process is used to determine where the state championships are held in a given year. I also feel that this is an area where the state coordinator should be involved and could add a lot of value to Oregon disc golf.

A Topic to be continued at my NEXT "Discussion" sessions at the WOX.

IF anyone feels like showing up....:pullhair:

:cool2:

[Magilla]

Now that sounds awesome! Although I must admit my ignorance and say that I'm not real clear on how match play works or how it's different than how tournaments are play now.

Match Play is played similar to skins BUT there are NO "carry overs".
You either win a point or not.
VERY competitive......

:cheers:

[Micah]

I nominate timber linn tourney addition as the best spot to name the OSDGC. No home field advantage, evenly distributed forehand, backhand, right handed, left handed. Semi centrally located (population wise). Wistler's would be my second choice. Sanctioning to me adds great value, I would love to see the Oregon state championships sanctioned but I am also happy letting Jerry keep the name and keep putting on tournaments at Timber he has a great following in Portland, just not most of the competitive pro golfers, or golfers in the rest of the state. We could just use a different name, maybe the State Championships.

[proto something or other]

I would be VERY interested in getting info/speaking to individuals involved in previous Overall event in Oregon.
I'll check with WFDF and see if there is any sanctioning history...
:rockon:


Mike:

I am pretty sure (85% or so) that Bruce Sisson was involved. I think Embree may have had a hand in it as well. I think Bruce would be the best place to start.

[Flatroc]

I would be VERY interested in getting info/speaking to individuals involved in previous Overall event in Oregon.
I'll check with WFDF and see if there is any sanctioning history...
:rockon:

Mike,
I know there was one in 1992 that Miller, Van Bibber and the old PDX crew hosted. It was held mostly at Timber and distance was at some school in the area.
I know Bruce was there because I remember watching him saving his butt on an MTA catch.:biggrin2:
Call Jerry and pick his brain.
Heck maybe even open up some doors.:whistler:

[Flatroc]

I have a frisbee that says 1992 State Flying Disc Championships with the words Sanctioned By U.S. Disc Sports underneath.
There is also a plate which says 1992 "Oregon State Championships" Accuracy Pro Division 2nd Place. (Clubby showed his wiley vet status and whooped me in a playoff for 1st :bowing: )

[Scott]

It seems that anyone could get hot on a given weekend and be crowned a state champion, even though they may not be thought of as the best player in the state. A state champion should demonstrate sustained excellence. What about somehow tying the state championships with the Oregon series? In my mind, the O.S. points leader at the end of the season is the real champion. At least under our current system.

[Flatroc]

It seems that anyone could get hot on a given weekend and be crowned a state champion, even though they may not be thought of as the best player in the state. A state champion should demonstrate sustained excellence. What about somehow tying the state championships with the Oregon series? In my mind, the O.S. points leader at the end of the season is the real champion. At least under our current system.

Scott, this is nothing personal against you or the ORS.:cheers:
I don't think it would be fair to the golfers in K-Falls, Coos Bay, or even the remote town of Remote if this were to happen.
It seems with the "qualifiers" getting first crack at ORS events, the field would only consist of the "elite" group that is starting to form.
Stand away from the "tee box " for a bit and imagine how many potential state champ golfers are out there that either don't know or care about the ORS. (again nothing personal).:biggrin2:
I think it should be wide open to ANY DISC GOLFER in the state.:cheers:
IMO it would get boring to compete against the same ol same ol's again and again and again.:rolleyes2:
One idea might be to have it a one day event (ams one day, pros the next).
This way you could get more golfers to attend.
:biggrin2:

[Sam]

I agree with FlatRoc about this, actually. I think we need an event separate from all series and open to all vendors. Of course, I think it should be sanctioned...

[Magilla]

Scott, this is nothing personal against you or the ORS.:cheers:
I don't think it would be fair to the golfers in K-Falls, Coos Bay, or even the remote town of Remote if this were to happen.
It seems with the "qualifiers" getting first crack at ORS events, the field would only consist of the "elite" group that is starting to form.
Stand away from the "tee box " for a bit and imagine how many potential state champ golfers are out there that either don't know or care about the ORS. (again nothing personal).:biggrin2:
I think it should be wide open to ANY DISC GOLFER in the state.:cheers:
IMO it would get boring to compete against the same ol same ol's again and again and again.:rolleyes2:
One idea might be to have it a one day event (ams one day, pros the next).
This way you could get more golfers to attend.
:biggrin2:


Whatever the "NAME" is...............the "State Championships" will be seperate from the Oregon Series. WHY should Series play be mandatory to win a State Championship, that would NOT be fair to those in the far regions that are not able to travel as much.

I have NO DESIRE to "steal" Jerry's event, as he has been running his version of the State Championships for a while now. (Even though in past yrs it was scheduled when the TOP players were out of state:headbang: )
It would be NICE, if he were to agree to allow it to happen as the "Oregon State Disc Golf Championships".
He could STILL do the Merch. for the AMS.....That would not be an issue...
:cheers:

I would prefer it to be PDGA Sanctioned, but then again, thats what I do.....
:rockon:

[Sam]

Why don't you give him a call, Mike? He might be reasonable with you. Don't mention me. :D

Personally, if he is not willing to give up the name, I think we should simply take it. That might not be the nicest way of going about this but I think the event has been underdone for far too long now.

[proto something or other]

Why don't you give him a call, Mike? He might be reasonable with you. Don't mention me. :D

Personally, if he is not willing to give up the name, I think we should simply take it. That might not be the nicest way of going about this but I think the event has been underdone for far too long now.


Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!

That's a prime opportunity to lose the moral high ground, right there. Even though I agree with your assessment of the problem that forces some solution, I don't think I agree with your solution.

I am hopeful that there could be some solution short of taking the name without blessings from those that have used the name in the past. Hopeful. If not, I think the players would see what was missing (in the underdone event) and begin the clamoring for a new, better version. Hopefully.

[Bullseye]

Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!

That's a prime opportunity to lose the moral high ground, right there. Even though I agree with your assessment of the problem that forces some solution, I don't think I agree with your solution.

I am hopeful that there could be some solution short of taking the name without blessings from those that have used the name in the past. Hopeful. If not, I think the players would see what was missing (in the underdone event) and begin the clamoring for a new, better version. Hopefully.

I think it has been a few years since Jerry has run this event AND the last time I attended one of his events he told everyone there that he was done TDing events. With that said, I still think anyone attempting to resurrect the OR State Championships should probably talk to him out of respect.

[Magilla]

I think it has been a few years since Jerry has run this event..............
With that said, I still think anyone attempting to resurrect the OR State Championships should probably talk to him out of respect.

Exactly..........:biggrin2:

[Magilla]

Why don't you give him a call, Mike? He might be reasonable with you. Don't mention me. :D

Personally, if he is not willing to give up the name, I think we should simply take it. That might not be the nicest way of going about this but I think the event has been underdone for far too long now.

WHEN I decide to pursue this I will call Jerry myself......:whistler:

WE will NOT just take it.......WE may have to "creatively" name it, but lets hope not.:wink2:

.....discuss.....
:cool2:

[Sean Phillips]

I think it has been a few years since Jerry has run this event AND the last time I attended one of his events he told everyone there that he was done TDing events. With that said, I still think anyone attempting to resurrect the OR State Championships should probably talk to him out of respect.

Jerry has ran it for the last 3 years in a row. I don't think he has plans for this year yet. He has an ongoing pro division trophy that had the winner engraved into it, the first person to have the name engraved into the trophy X amount of times gets to keep the trophy. It was a pretty bad ass trophy.

[Sam]

Oh yeah... was that the event that was all screwed up because of the CB radio people or was that the other "state championship"?

[all2common]

That was Jabber's tournament that got all screwed up...

[Sam]

Sorry... all of these "state championships" seem to blend together...

[Magilla]

Oh yeah... was that the event that was all screwed up because of the CB radio people or was that the other "state championship"?

:cop:

OK...Hows this...

I will talk to Jerry within the next few days and THEN we will be able to move forward...one way or the other. :dancing:

PLEASE refrain from ALL Jerry/Disc Golf Depot bashing on this subject. It does not help at all:explode:

:biggrin2:

[Bullseye]

WHEN I decide to pursue this I will call Jerry myself......:whistler:

WE will NOT just take it.......WE may have to "creatively" name it, but lets hope not.:wink2:

.....discuss.....
:cool2:

When YOU decide? Hmmmm...

[Sam]

You're right, Mike. My apologies.

:kissflowers:

[Magilla]

When YOU decide? Hmmmm...

Well....someone requested that I look into it.
Someone else suggested that maybe the "State Coordinator" could also deal with this issue.
:cop:

AND unless my memory fails me.............Some people would like it to be PDGA Sanctioned.

But then you would know SOME of these things had you attended my "Discussion" session at Dexter prior to Awards:whistler:

:D

Now if you would prefer a PDGA representation more in line of what you had the past 4 yrs, just let me know......:slapface:

:rockon:

[Scott]

Scott, this is nothing personal against you or the ORS.:cheers:
I don't think it would be fair to the golfers in K-Falls, Coos Bay, or even the remote town of Remote if this were to happen.
It seems with the "qualifiers" getting first crack at ORS events, the field would only consist of the "elite" group that is starting to form.
Stand away from the "tee box " for a bit and imagine how many potential state champ golfers are out there that either don't know or care about the ORS. (again nothing personal).:biggrin2:
I think it should be wide open to ANY DISC GOLFER in the state.:cheers:
IMO it would get boring to compete against the same ol same ol's again and again and again.:rolleyes2:
One idea might be to have it a one day event (ams one day, pros the next).
This way you could get more golfers to attend.
:biggrin2:

I see your point. Allow me to state mine.

To me, the title "State Champion" sounds like a pretty big deal. At least it should be. When you take the title away, you're talking about a just another tournament. Is the winner of a one day tourney at Timber or Milo a better golfer than the winner of the BSF? Not necessaryily. In most cases, probably not.

Sam mentions elsewhere in this thread that everyone else crowns their champions this way. :yawn: So? We always talk about ways to push Oregon to the forefront of the national DG scene - here's a chance to be different and exciting in a meaningful way.

What about a smaller series....Three tournaments; one north, one central, one south. The winner of the series is a state champion that had to show sustained excellence on a variety of courses. I'm thinking Whistler's in August, Adair in September (Hyzer Pines , or Dexter would work nicely here, too) and Milo in October (or Dabney).

I'm just tossing stuff around.. There are tons of great possibilities.

[Bullseye]

I see your point. Allow me to state mine.

To me, the title "State Champion" sounds like a pretty big deal. At least it should be. When you take the title away, you're talking about a just another tournament. Is the winner of a one day tourney at Timber or Milo a better golfer than the winner of the BSF? Not necessaryily. In most cases, probably not.

Sam mentions elsewhere in this thread that everyone else crowns their champions this way. :yawn: So? We always talk about ways to push Oregon to the forefront of the national DG scene - here's a chance to be different and exciting in a meaningful way.

What about a smaller series....Three tournaments; one north, one central, one south. The winner of the series is a state champion that had to show sustained excellence on a variety of courses. I'm thinking Whistler's in August, Adair in September (Hyzer Pines , or Dexter would work nicely here, too) and Milo in October (or Dabney).

I'm just tossing stuff around.. There are tons of great possibilities.

I do like that idea, but how about this spin on it.

What if you took the top five finishers from each division at each Oregon Series event and gave them an invitation to the Oregon State Championships at the end of the season. If someone in the top 5 already has an invitation then the invite would trickle down... USDGC style.

This way you would get the top tournament players for each division playing in the big show at the end of the year.

Just food for thought...

[proto something or other]

What if you took the top five finishers from each division at each Oregon Series event and gave them an invitation to the Oregon State Championships at the end of the season. If someone in the top 5 already has an invitation then the invite would trickle down... USDGC style.


I could get behind that. This style would allow the people from all parts of the state to qualify.

[snap7times]

so we talking 144 player field or 288? If there were 2 courses, 72 at each. Tee off early in the morning, get 4 rounds in, 2 each pool, 2 days straight. That be 288 players playing 4 rounds in 2 days on 2 courses. Could invite top 5 winners from all Tier B and up tourneys and top 3 from C tier tourneys until quota is met for each division etc. Just brain storming.
Like say
Master Open 16
ADV master 16
Grand master 8
ADV grandmaster 8
Men open 36
women open 12
MA1 24
MA2 24
MA3 16
FW1 12
FW2 8
FW3 8
=188, leaving 100 extra special invites etc... Just brainstorming... throwing Hurricane Juanita in here...

[Tim]

Just browsing through this, good ideas here. However, I think this idea of the top 5 finisher, invitational thing would be better suited as a different entity than a state championship. More like the Player's Cup at the end of the season on the national scene. Also, I think it would have more rapport with the players if it were a smaller, more exclusive event, i.e a privilege that only the best get to play in.

[Magilla]

Just browsing through this, good ideas here. However, I think this idea of the top 5 finisher, invitational thing would be better suited as a different entity than a state championship. More like the Player's Cup at the end of the season on the national scene. Also, I think it would have more rapport with the players if it were a smaller, more exclusive event, i.e a privilege that only the best get to play in.

The PDGA Match Play Championships will go this direction.
The intent is that the Top 64 players will be in the field, eventually.
With qualifiers, etc. + Wildcard Spots..........etc....

What I do like is the possibility of a "Roaming" Championship, where a different Club hosts it each yr. Late Fall would be the best time frame, since the Series is over and the schedule has slowed down abit by then.

:rockon:

[Cherokee]

Do you have to live in the State of Oregon to compete?

[Sam]

I don't think you should have to live in Oregon to compete, no.

[Flatroc]

Well, to be honest I did win my division (Intermediate) in a non-sanctioned Oregon State Championship. I'm not in ANY way criticizing Jerry Miller at Disc Golf Depot because, as always, he ran a great tournament, but it always bothered me that his tourneys were not sanctioned.

I realize it is a personal preference, but I really just prefer playing sanctioned events. I like the fact that my rounds are rated and I can refer back to them at a later date and see how my game has (or has not) progressed.

So how did it feel when you won?:yay:

Did you feel like an Oregon state champ?:trophy:

:)

[Flatroc]

I would be VERY interested in getting info/speaking to individuals involved in previous Overall event in Oregon.

This is from the "Valley Golfer" newsletter 1991 fall issue
Results (UDA members only)
Oregon Overalls 8/31/91 field = 31
Estacada, Or. light drizzle
7th Bruce Sisson - 66.5 pts, 2nd place distance w/ a 319'
8th Zane Hoffman - 59 pts, 2nd place MTA w/ 8 min. 53 seconds
10th Brian Riley - 50.5 pts
14th Ernie Szeremi - 46.5 pts
19th Michael O'con - 36.5 pts
22nd Steve Wright - 29 pts 2nd place adv. golf

I have some newsletters that Bart used to send out with more stats but they're hiding at the moment.:biggrin2:
I hope this helps somehow.:wink2:

[DexterHawk]

I think the qualifying thing would be rad... Just like at the USDGC you could have qualifying tournaments... ORS yes, but also a couple in Southern Oregon and around to met the needs of all the clans... I also really like the idea of a travailing tournament...

On a completely different but also Oregon State Championship mode... we need to have a team based competition for city bragging rights... I'm thinking 18 person teams... match play, doubles, stroke play format... There can be as many teams as people can orginize... i.e. 3 from portland 1 from Albany... and you could make requirements like teams must have 3 women, one player older than 50, one player with no rating, two players below a 900 rating and so forth to encourage teams to bring new and different players into competitive play.

[Sam]

10th Brian Riley - 50.5 pts

Just to close a little circle for you, Yose... Brian Riley is the brother of one of our members here, Cherokee.

[Flatroc]

Just to close a little circle for you, Yose... Brian Riley is the brother of one of our members here, Cherokee.

Right on.
I don't remember if I've met him or not.:confused:
It's been many putts since I've seen "Big Briley".
Greetings to Cherokee Riley. :cheers:

[Nate Sexton]

I think a state championship event would be really cool to have, but just like the World Championships, it should not include an intermediate division. You should be able to be the Am champion or the Pro champion in a couple of different age and gender protected variations of course. I think there was once an INT world champion, but it doesn't make much sense so they removed it, it encourages playing down a little too much with an important title on the line.

Also, that 8min 53 second MTA by Zane must have been something to see, sickening that it only got him 2nd place, as that breaks the world record by about 8min 36 seconds. Now had that event been sanctioned he would have a place in the record books, or at least whoever beat him would have. Imagine that, throw the fastback up there, go to the car, drive out of the park and grab a coffee, all the while it is just hovering up there, then speed back in and catch it one handed...pretty cool.

[Magilla]

Also, that 8min 53 second MTA by Zane must have been something to see, sickening that it only got him 2nd place, as that breaks the world record by about 8min 36 seconds. Now had that event been sanctioned he would have a place in the record books, or at least whoever beat him would have. Imagine that, throw the fastback up there, go to the car, drive out of the park and grab a coffee, all the while it is just hovering up there, then speed back in and catch it one handed...pretty cool.

:laughing::laughing:

Yea, I like that one as well.......

My best is just over 11 seconds.....:p

Id venture to say that the 8 mins 53 seconds was for "Disc-a-thon" which MOST overalls did back in the day....
:cool2:

:rockon:

[Sam]

MTA is where you throw it to yourself and catch it?

Have I mentioned that I am glad that we do not have so many abbreviations in DG? Seriously... I would totally deliver a RHBH to anyone who suggests that we need more.

[Flatroc]

Also, that 8min 53 second MTA by Zane must have been something to see, sickening that it only got him 2nd place, as that breaks the world record by about 8min 36 seconds. Now had that event been sanctioned he would have a place in the record books, or at least whoever beat him would have. Imagine that, throw the fastback up there, go to the car, drive out of the park and grab a coffee, all the while it is just hovering up there, then speed back in and catch it one handed...pretty cool.

You really had to be there to appreciate it.:bowing:
I think Roland Van Bibber won first place throwing a poly roc. :shocked:
Roland, if I remember right, ;) threw his plastic, drove to a tavern and came back and caught it with a beer in the other hand.:chug:
Without spilling any nonetheles.:shocked:
:biggrin2:
Wait....... who was editing the ol Valley Golfer back then? :blush:
TYPO ALERT :cop::cop::cop::cop::cop:
Zane's toss was 8.53 seconds.:wink2:
Also, I think it WAS sanctioned.
Maybe by Wiff Diff, U. S. Disc Sports and/or the PDGA, or all of them.:D
Mike said he was going to check on this.:whistler:
PS Nice comprehension there Nate.:biggrin2:

[Flatroc]

MTA is where you throw it to yourself and catch it?.

MTA = Maximum time aloft, where you throw it and go for hangtime and catch it cleanly with one hand.
TRC = throw run and catch, where you go for D which means distance.:rolleyes: