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"Over the Hill" Bob
April 6th, 2009, 08:15 PM
soooooooooooooo................with the GNO coming up at Whistlers and three grueling rounds there I needed to test myself to see if I can handle it. Being almost 58 years old a big course can really knock you down. I feel better about my conditioning now.
Friday
36 holes at Pier
Saturday
27 holes at Milo (long pads)
Sunday
38 holes at Pier (played 3&4 on the way back)
Monday
36 holes at N. Bonneville
18 holes at Dabney
115 holes in four days. Now I feel better about my conditioning. I WILL take the next couple of days off however. :D
Bob
Scott
April 6th, 2009, 08:54 PM
soooooooooooooo................with the GNO coming up at Whistlers and three grueling rounds there I needed to test myself to see if I can handle it. Being almost 58 years old a big course can really knock you down. I feel better about my conditioning now.
Friday
36 holes at Pier
Saturday
27 holes at Milo (long pads)
Sunday
38 holes at Pier (played 3&4 on the way back)
Monday
36 holes at N. Bonneville
18 holes at Dabney
115 holes in four days. Now I feel better about my conditioning. I WILL take the next couple of days off however. :D
Bob
I still remember when 18 at Pier would wipe you out. You've come a long way. :yay:
Adam Schneider
April 6th, 2009, 09:09 PM
It's weird, I've found that my index finger wears out long before my arm: hangnails, blood blisters, you name it.
zippyboy
April 6th, 2009, 09:15 PM
Odd. On most rounds at Trojan, I find my middle finger wears out before any of the rest... :waaah:
Joshua Olmsted
April 6th, 2009, 09:53 PM
I'm mad impressed, something about my swing and my shoulders keeps me from playing much at all after a 36 hole type of day. Good Job:rockon:
RonTheWhip
April 6th, 2009, 10:08 PM
Disc Golf Conditioning - That would be a great topic for an article! Thanks for the idea Bob!
Some things that I can think of right off the bat is doing some non-disc golf workouts to increase muscular endurance and cardio health.
1.) Walking - Constant 2 + miles. Most disc golf courses are 1 to 3 miles long including walk outs and zig zag around the course.
2.) Trail Walking / Hiking - Add some elevation and really start taxing the heart and leg muscles!
3.) Running - the best type of roadwork for cardio health and leg endurance. Start small (1 to 2 miles at a slower pace). Or run for time (20 min run increasing gradually).
Thats just the lower half of the body, I'll look into upper body conditioning that would be beneficial for disc golf.
captain jack
April 6th, 2009, 10:26 PM
I'm almost as old as you, but I can play more golf now than ever before, without pain.
I played 124 holes of golf Saturday and Sunday.
Not just short courses either.
2 rounds at White River (blue tees) then 18 more at Lakewood on Saturday.
2 rounds at Twin Rivers, then 34 holes at Lake Stevens on Sunday. I would have played today, it was so nice out, but I had to work. :(
One round used to destroy my arm years ago, then I would not be able to play for a couple of days, now I can play till my legs give out.
The secret is the changeup. I throw almost 50/50 forehand/backhand drives now, so my arm doesnt get destroyed by all the backhand stress, this makes a huge difference.
Playing well helps too, if you only have to throw two shots per hole, instead of four, its half as tiring, plus its amazing how tossing birdies blocks the pain from sore muscles.
NWDiscer
April 6th, 2009, 11:21 PM
38 at :whistler:'s on Sunday lower thigh's burn a little today....
so yea 38 at :whistler:'s 2 rounds and an extra trip up to Top of World :rockon:
T-what?
April 6th, 2009, 11:54 PM
3.) Running - the best type of roadwork for cardio health and leg endurance. Start small (1 to 2 miles at a slower pace). Or run for time (20 min run increasing gradually).
For those who don't want to venture far from home, I heard 10min of jump roping is the same as running 1 mile.
dan
April 7th, 2009, 12:20 AM
For those who don't want to venture far from home, I heard 10min of jump roping is the same as running 1 mile.
Jumping rope is crazy good cardio exercise. Maybe it's just because I suck at it, but 10 minutes of rope feels like running 2 miles at a near sprint.
TreeLove
April 7th, 2009, 07:07 AM
How about Wii Boxing? Man, that tires me out! And it's not even 3 real minutes per round!
snap7times
April 7th, 2009, 08:11 AM
Alright, i'll step in here, being the specialist in this field. A general rule of thumb is "time of exercise with your heart beat over a certain bpm *beats per minute*". Without getting all too complicated, you want to make sure your heart beat per minute is over a certain number, most people pick 110-130 depending on age, and keep it above that number for 15-20 minutes. For anyone under 25, probably would get the number above 140 but not past 170-180 bpm. For those 25-35 would want it in the 120-140 range for those not in top shape. And then older than 35 would want it in the 110-130 range. Keep in mind this is just a general rule of thumb to those who dont do actual exercise more than 3 times a week over a long period of time. Harder exercise gets the BPM higher, therefore reducing the time of the exercise period.
Since bob says he is 58, he would need to do a little research on what his target BPM would be and see what number of BPM he would need to be over to consider it cardio exercise. WALKING is not considered exercise because it does not maintain a BPM over 110 the majority of the time. Unless you play Sipapu in New Mexico... heh..
Ol' Bob
April 7th, 2009, 08:30 AM
Well, Bob, back when I was only 58 I could do that many holes in a brisk march.
Now it's not a question of stamina, but of how bad different parts of me hurt. Take good care of that machine.
all2common
April 7th, 2009, 08:45 AM
Disc Golf Conditioning - That would be a great topic for an article! Thanks for the idea Bob!
Some things that I can think of right off the bat is doing some non-disc golf workouts to increase muscular endurance and cardio health.
1.) Walking - Constant 2 + miles. Most disc golf courses are 1 to 3 miles long including walk outs and zig zag around the course.
2.) Trail Walking / Hiking - Add some elevation and really start taxing the heart and leg muscles!
3.) Running - the best type of roadwork for cardio health and leg endurance. Start small (1 to 2 miles at a slower pace). Or run for time (20 min run increasing gradually).
Thats just the lower half of the body, I'll look into upper body conditioning that would be beneficial for disc golf.
I'd be interested to know what you come up with...winter was a little rough on me.
essjay
April 7th, 2009, 09:59 AM
"WALKING is not considered exercise because it does not maintain a BPM over 110 the majority of the time. Unless you play Sipapu in New Mexico... heh.."
Nathan, do you mean walking is not considered CARDIO exercise???
snap7times
April 7th, 2009, 11:12 AM
For those who do cardio and "maintanence" exercise, that is correct, walking is not considered cardio exercise, but it is considered maintence exercise because you are moving for a long period of time yada yada. In general, people think walking is "exercise" when it is really not, because it has minimal to zero cardio benefits but is good for maintence, meaning gets your blood flowing etc but will not help you improve in any area...
Brian
April 7th, 2009, 11:27 AM
For those who do cardio and "maintanence" exercise, that is correct, walking is not considered cardio exercise, but it is considered maintence exercise because you are moving for a long period of time yada yada. In general, people think walking is "exercise" when it is really not, because it has minimal to zero cardio benefits but is good for maintence, meaning gets your blood flowing etc but will not help you improve in any area...
Walking is about 1000 times better than sitting at home all day. I like to jog courses though. I throw run to my disc .. take my time throwing but run to each spot. That works out pretty well.
snap7times
April 7th, 2009, 11:57 AM
Running between throws is a great way to get a much higher BPM than walking between throws. However, the best way to maximize the benefits of this method is a 5 minute warm up that gets your BPM over 110-130 before starting the first hole so that running between holes will maintain what you started, rather than mild warm up and then throw first throw and your first run be after your first throw, which means your BPM has to climb instead of being maintained from the warmup... Many of you won't do this method because it is not a "mainstream" accepted method and dosen't mirror tournament style as well as it is a bit hard to run with a 10-20 pound bag on your back. So warming up for 5-10 minutes before a round will both benefit your health and your muscles will be much less prone to injury because it is warmed up. Jogging holes 1-9 and back to hole 1 is a great way to warm up and to check out basket placements and flight paths and will improve your score as well...
Brian
April 7th, 2009, 12:08 PM
Running between throws is a great way to get a much higher BPM than walking between throws. However, the best way to maximize the benefits of this method is a 5 minute warm up that gets your BPM over 110-130 before starting the first hole so that running between holes will maintain what you started, rather than mild warm up and then throw first throw and your first run be after your first throw, which means your BPM has to climb instead of being maintained from the warmup... Many of you won't do this method because it is not a "mainstream" accepted method and dosen't mirror tournament style as well as it is a bit hard to run with a 10-20 pound bag on your back. So warming up for 5-10 minutes before a round will both benefit your health and your muscles will be much less prone to injury because it is warmed up. Jogging holes 1-9 and back to hole 1 is a great way to warm up and to check out basket placements and flight paths and will improve your score as well...
that is actually a great idea .. and it will tae just about 5 minutes so that works out well. I may just use that idea!
Adam Schneider
April 7th, 2009, 12:10 PM
It's great exercise, but hell on one's putting accuracy.
Scott
April 7th, 2009, 01:17 PM
WALKING is not considered exercise because it does not maintain a BPM over 110 the majority of the time.
Then you're not walking fast enough. When I walk for exercise (different than casual walks, or walking during a round), I try to hit at least 4 mph. That gets the heart going after a few miles.
Funny - I hate to jog/run. Can't stand it. I've decided to "start running" about ten times over the course of my life. I don't think I've ever lasted more than a couple of weeks before I drop it completely. It feels too much like work. But I love to walk and it's really no less of a workout.
Scott
April 7th, 2009, 01:18 PM
It's great exercise, but hell on one's putting accuracy.
Assume that when you're playing for speed that you're not really that concerned about score.
Putting accuracy comes during a seperate practice session.
Brian
April 7th, 2009, 02:32 PM
When I run I get good scores usually. I don't overthink my shots. I do always pause sufficiently for putts though.
Jet
April 7th, 2009, 03:52 PM
Funny - I hate to jog/run. Can't stand it. I've decided to "start running" about ten times over the course of my life. I don't think I've ever lasted more than a couple of weeks before I drop it completely. It feels too much like work.
Ditto. When we had to run the mile in school, I told myself no matter what I choose to do for work/fun, it will NEVER involve jogging. I'd usually come in the top 3 in my class but a lot of smarter girls just walked it.
snap7times
April 7th, 2009, 04:14 PM
Then you're not walking fast enough. When I walk for exercise (different than casual walks, or walking during a round), I try to hit at least 4 mph. That gets the heart going after a few miles.
Funny - I hate to jog/run. Can't stand it. I've decided to "start running" about ten times over the course of my life. I don't think I've ever lasted more than a couple of weeks before I drop it completely. It feels too much like work. But I love to walk and it's really no less of a workout.
This is why I am focused on BPM, one person can walk at 3 mph and hit a BPM of 130 while the next person walks at 4.5 mph and only gets a BPM of 100. BPM is what determines the difficulty of the workout on your body, not the speed. Micheal Johnson probably could have run 8 MPH and only had a BPM of 100-110.
Unfortuately some people are not able to expirence the "runner's high" which is what keeps those people to sticking to their workouts, reasons for that will need to be researched.
Funny Jet mentions "smarter girls" walked... when it is a proven theory that exercise is related to intelleigence and better work habits.
"Over the Hill" Bob
April 7th, 2009, 04:42 PM
This is why I am focused on BPM, one person can walk at 3 mph and hit a BPM of 130 while the next person walks at 4.5 mph and only gets a BPM of 100. BPM is what determines the difficulty of the workout on your body, not the speed. Micheal Johnson probably could have run 8 MPH and only had a BPM of 100-110.
Unfortuately some people are not able to expirence the "runner's high" which is what keeps those people to sticking to their workouts, reasons for that will need to be researched.
Funny Jet mentions "smarter girls" walked... when it is a proven theory that exercise is related to intelleigence and better work habits.
I have a hard time just walking, whether slow or fast. I WANT to run! I ran when I was younger and experienced the high and love to run, but the old body doesn't allow it anymore. I've had two surgeries on my back and the impact of running tears me up. My mind tells me the best thing I can do is get on the stationary bike and get those BPM that Snap is talking about. This getting old thing isn't all it's cracked up to be. Two cuttings on the back, gall bladder yanked out, diebetic, two stents in heart, and the truth is disc golf is the BEST therapy for me. All things considered I'm pretty darn lucky to be in the shape I am.
Bob
snap7times
April 7th, 2009, 05:04 PM
ok Bob, with that added information, I want you to try one thing for me, easy and simple, for 7 straight days, and then tell me how you feel overall and what you notice... When it is almost time for bed, stretch really good, do each position for 20-30 good seconds. Stretch for 8-12 minutes, don't under do it, and don't over do it, do the stretches as you know it is stretching and feeling good and not painful. Usually 4 stretches for the upper body x2 *one each side*, then 4 for the lower body x2 *one for each side* will do the trick for getting 8-12 minutes. After 7 loyal days, tell me what happens..
After looking around at various websites, someone your age would have a target BPM somewhere between 80-120 BPM because of your age and not a person who has been exercising on a regular basis. However with your various red flags, before doing regular vigorous exercise, I would consult with a medical professional first.
Sausage Fingers
April 7th, 2009, 05:58 PM
it is a proven theory that exercise is related to intelligence.
Sorry Snap! I won't debate all of your fancy BPM stuff, but you can't just drop these kinds of statements without backing it up. I would have to say that exercise has ZERO correlation to intelligence. So prove me wrong! Let's see your so called proven theory. I call it BS as you can't even spell intelligence correctly!:laughing:
And don't me going with your standard 'picking on the handicapped guy' crap either. I know that's how you registered for the BSF before me...:nahnah:
Show me what you got!:pirate:
snap7times
April 7th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Just google it up, exercise improves brain power, concentration, self esteem etc, which leads to this and that and yada yada... I blame my spell check for not fixing that word for me. At least I signed it correctly, I hope you can too :laughing: . At least this typing English mumbo jumbo is my 2nd language mr. smarty pants... :biggrin2:
And I signed up for BSF before you because I exercise and that exercise makes me smarter, and therefore helped me figure out how to beat the system and get in...:shooting::shooting::chug::posting::evilgrin: :yay::nahnah::shocked:
Anyways, resisting my advice will only make you fatter and less able to throw that 350 footer you USED to throw :slapface::shocked::nahnah:
Jet
April 7th, 2009, 07:09 PM
And I signed up for BSF before you because I exercise and that exercise makes me smarter, and therefore helped me figure out how to beat the system and get in...
Makes sense to me. :)
D.L.
April 7th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Well, Bob, back when I was only 58 I could do that many holes in a brisk march.
How about in a temperate april?:jumpspin:
Ol' Bob
April 7th, 2009, 08:46 PM
I'll shut up. I'm out of my element.
One of the best avatars ever! http://nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/image.php?u=286&dateline=1236951670
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Heading to the chiropractor tomorrow. Too damned much conditioning lately.
Jet
April 7th, 2009, 11:16 PM
I'll shut up. I'm out of my element.
One of the best avatars ever! http://nwdiscgolfnews.com/forum/image.php?u=286&dateline=1236951670
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Heading to the chiropractor tomorrow. Too damned much conditioning lately.
That bowling ball looked like a disc of a second. :biggrin2:
D.L.
April 8th, 2009, 01:24 PM
That bowling ball looked like a disc of a second. :biggrin2:
finger tip bowler
2 finger discer
3 shots tequila and
show me the floor.
and thanks, I re-sized it myself:chinscratch:
I dig your style too, man.
Dude
Sausage Fingers
April 8th, 2009, 01:29 PM
At least I signed it correctly, I hope you can too :laughing: .
I am still working on getting the number signs correct! I keep getting a 6 written down when I threw a 3!:shocked::biggrin2::pirate:
And my longest drive in a tourney was the 400' hole 7 at Whistler's bend when I threw my Pro Orc 20' PAST the pin, thank you very much!:pirate:
snap7times
April 8th, 2009, 01:35 PM
I am still working on getting the number signs correct! I keep getting a 6 written down when I threw a 3!:shocked::biggrin2::pirate:
And my longest drive in a tourney was the 400' hole 7 at Whistler's bend when I threw my Pro Orc 20' PAST the pin, thank you very much!:pirate:
That'll teach ya to sign it correct faster, nothing like a 6 on your card to push ya...
THREW as in USED to throw 400 lol... :laughing: someone's been riding the couch a bit much this past winter ehh?? :whistler::yay: Time to exercise and stretch
Sausage Fingers
April 8th, 2009, 01:41 PM
someone's been riding the couch a bit much this past winter ehh?? :whistler::yay: Time to exercise and stretch
Not true! I ran Team Disc Golf again last winter and played many rounds of disc golf. Rare is the weekend that I don't get in at least 1 round of 18 holes.
But alas, DG is my only exercise... Stretching would be good if I could only remember to do so...:pirate:
snap7times
April 8th, 2009, 02:20 PM
Not true! I ran Team Disc Golf again last winter and played many rounds of disc golf. Rare is the weekend that I don't get in at least 1 round of 18 holes.
But alas, DG is my only exercise... Stretching would be good if I could only remember to do so...:pirate:
Do it before bed, you will notice the difference in every possible area of your daily lifestyle and on the course as well... i could tell you all the reasons why, but i rather you feel the reasons...
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