View Full Version : How Many Courses in Oregon are PDGA Gold Tee Standard?
Bob Horning
March 25th, 2009, 07:08 PM
Looking to find out how many and which courses in Oregon qualify as Gold Tees 1000 Rated.
thanks, Bob
Bullseye
March 25th, 2009, 07:39 PM
Looking to find out how many and which courses in Oregon qualify as Gold Tees 1000 Rated.
thanks, Bob
Good question. I actually had to go look this one up. Anyone who want to read what he's talking about can look here Course Standards (http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/PDGASkillGuides2009.pdf).
Offhand... I would say only the two BSF courses at Milo McIver truly qualify.
A few other courses that could get there would be Dexter, Whistler's Bend, Trojan and Adair.
If you build it... etc... :D
Adam Schneider
March 25th, 2009, 07:45 PM
Bob, if you're planning to have your third course meet this standard, please tell us you'll include short tees as well, for us mere mortals!
"Over the Hill" Bob
March 25th, 2009, 07:51 PM
Bob, if you're planning to have your third course meet this standard, please tell us you'll include short tees as well, for us mere mortals!
What he said! :cheers:
Bob
Bullseye
March 25th, 2009, 07:56 PM
What he said! :cheers:
Bob
Back off! :shooting: There's already two short courses out there. :laughing:
NWDiscer
March 25th, 2009, 08:12 PM
Back off! :shooting: There's already two short courses out there. :laughing:
:jumpspin: :yay: :cheerleader: :pirate: :trophy:
:cheers: :cool:
Adam Schneider
March 25th, 2009, 08:51 PM
Hey, I'm not saying you shouldn't have your 9,000-foot course. But with a little extra gravel and a few more logs embedded in the ground, it could be a lot more enjoyable for a lot more people...
Darr
March 25th, 2009, 09:01 PM
it could be a lot more enjoyable for a lot more people...
and clogged...
snap7times
March 25th, 2009, 09:15 PM
Back off! :shooting: There's already two short courses out there. :laughing:
If Bob wants to build a complete package, he would be wise to follow the lead to the gold standards. 3 completely diffrent courses on one spot of land, holy toledo, people from all over would fly in to play this baby heh... The first course is around 4900 feet, the 2nd course is like 2500? Yeah I think the 3rd course should be 7000 like the Gold standard says. Then there can be a work party to put in the shorter tees for those that "want" it. The milo courses are around 8200-8400 each.
However, I have not seen the land that the 3rd course will be on and have a hard time imagining a milo sized course minus 1000 feet on Horning's, but I sure do imagine a killer 6000 footer for sure...
Adam Schneider
March 25th, 2009, 09:16 PM
C'mon, seriously, what's the percentage of disc golfers in Oregon who'd really rather play 500-foot holes than 300- or 400-foot ones? I think they're overrepresented on this forum.
Bob Horning
March 25th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Reason I was asking was because I would like to build the next one up to gold tee standards, though it looks like it doesn't mean it will be a 9,000 course, a 6,500 ft course could be gold rated if through heavy woods. I am planning on getting the next course there (gold rated), along with cement tee pads and the targets certified by PDGA. Also by the time the ODDGA plays in May, I plan on having several holes on the original course lengthened like we've talked about, making that a true par three/four course, and yes, eventually get better gravel trails and cement tee pads there too. :)
Adam Schneider
March 25th, 2009, 09:23 PM
Reason I was asking was because I would like to build the next one up to gold tee standards...
I think we all figured that's why you were asking. :) So... any chance of also having non-gold tees on Course #3?
Brian Heath
March 25th, 2009, 09:23 PM
Reason I was asking was because I would like to build the next one up to gold tee standards, though it looks like it doesn't mean it will be a 9,000 course, a 6,500 ft course could be gold rated if through heavy woods. I am planning on getting the next course there (gold rated), along with cement tee pads and the targets certified by PDGA. Also by the time the ODDGA plays in May, I plan on having several holes on the original course lengthened like we've talked about, making that a true par three/four course, and yes, eventually get better gravel trails and cement tee pads there too. :)
:trophy::trophy::trophy:
Bob Horning
March 25th, 2009, 09:30 PM
I think we all figured that's why you were asking. :) So... any chance of also having non-gold tees on Course #3?
Most of the holes will be between 300 and 400 feet, with three being longer (one is about 1,050). The reason they would be gold standard is not because of length, but because of both length and technical difficulty (woods). but yes, on some of the longest holes we may be able to have a few non-gold tees.:)
snap7times
March 25th, 2009, 09:30 PM
C'mon, seriously, what's the percentage of disc golfers in Oregon who'd really rather play 500-foot holes than 300- or 400-foot ones? I think they're overrepresented on this forum.
450 x 3 = 1350
400 x 4 = 1600
350 x 3 = 1050
300 x 3 = 900
250 x 3 = 750
200 x 2 = 600
= 6250
The longest holes would only be 450 feet. Those holes would help everyone, smart control would get you the par.
Bob Horning
March 25th, 2009, 09:40 PM
450 x 3 = 1350
400 x 4 = 1600
350 x 3 = 1050
300 x 3 = 900
250 x 3 = 750
200 x 2 = 600
= 6250
The longest holes would only be 450 feet. Those holes would help everyone, smart control would get you the par.
Nathan, what are these numbers from? not the planned course here.
SMOKIN JOE
March 25th, 2009, 09:56 PM
go for the gold baby:yay::rockon::bowing::trophy::cheerleader::chu g::cheers:
besides the baskets what else do you want in a private course three different courses each with progressive difficulty awesome
make me cry after the gold course ,,make par a 1050 round:cool2:
mbr
March 25th, 2009, 10:13 PM
Hornings is sounding better and better:bowing:, looking for a grounds keeper??? I'd LOVE to move back, have the wife take a transfer to once again spend my days playing with plants and flying plastic:rockon: We got tired of sub-zero temps and unscenic flat land about a minute after getting here.:yawn:
Jonny Roc
March 25th, 2009, 10:16 PM
450 x 3 = 1350
400 x 4 = 1600
350 x 3 = 1050
300 x 3 = 900
250 x 3 = 750
200 x 2 = 600
= 6250
The longest holes would only be 450 feet. Those holes would help everyone, smart control would get you the par.
200x2=600:confused:
lol:chug:
Dave Pittman
March 25th, 2009, 10:42 PM
Offhand... I would say only the two BSF courses at Milo McIver truly qualify.
I would agree.
A few other courses that could get there would be Dexter, Whistler's Bend, Trojan and Adair. :D
Benton County Parks & Natural Areas are happy with the Adair 18 hole layout and aren't going to allow any expansion to the disc golf course. The WDGC is working with the parks dept to preserve & protect what we have built there. The club is continuing to make improvements and subtle changes like the new pin position on 13 and working on the ledge for hole 3. Options like alternate tee pads are not going to be allowed, replacing the rubber tees with concrete is possible but are on hold by the parks department.
As many know the EDGC is working closely with Oregon State Parks to preserve & protect what has been built at Dexter.
The amount of use these courses are now seeing is putting more and more wear & tear on the landscape. Undoubtedly many courses in the Northwest are seeing these same things and we all need to be aware of that.
David
snap7times
March 25th, 2009, 10:58 PM
Nathan, what are these numbers from? not the planned course here.
Just an example that a overall long course can have excellent balance and not neccesarily all long holes and that they can handle just a few long ones without special tees. I have no idea what you have planned, just supporting the idea of a long course and relieve those who are in "panic" mode hehehe...:angel:
snap7times
March 25th, 2009, 11:01 PM
200x2=600:confused:
lol:chug:
Okkkkk... so i made a mistake, you try giving cooking dinner, giving your boy a bath, giving the cats attention, whither in temptation with all these poision oak spots, watch the suns escape the jazz, and type that left post left handed. :cheers::seeya: :jumpspin:
dan
March 25th, 2009, 11:24 PM
The amount of use these courses are now seeing is putting more and more wear & tear on the landscape. Undoubtedly many courses in the Northwest are seeing these same things and we all need to be aware of that.
Absolutely. This is why we need to keep building courses. Lots of them. Which brings us back to...
Go Bob! :yay::yay::yay:
RonTheWhip
March 25th, 2009, 11:44 PM
I'm stoked. Who is helping design and giving advice on the course? Who has input and who has final say?
can't wait to play!
Jonny Roc
March 26th, 2009, 01:17 AM
Okkkkk... so i made a mistake, you try giving cooking dinner, giving your boy a bath, giving the cats attention, whither in temptation with all these poision oak spots, watch the suns escape the jazz, and type that left post left handed. :cheers::seeya: :jumpspin:
:rockon:
Sam
March 26th, 2009, 08:50 AM
Reason I was asking was because I would like to build the next one up to gold tee standards, though it looks like it doesn't mean it will be a 9,000 course, a 6,500 ft course could be gold rated if through heavy woods. I am planning on getting the next course there (gold rated), along with cement tee pads and the targets certified by PDGA. Also by the time the ODDGA plays in May, I plan on having several holes on the original course lengthened like we've talked about, making that a true par three/four course, and yes, eventually get better gravel trails and cement tee pads there too. :)
That's sexy talk right there. Thanks, Bob!
See you tomorrow evening. Several of us coming out for some glow on the shorty. Join us if you can. :cheers:
Chuck Kennedy
March 26th, 2009, 09:08 AM
It's not uncommon for gold courses to have shorter white level tees that end up being played more often than the gold tees for day-to-day play. At Highbridge, WI, the gold course is the least popular among the four in terms of total rounds. However, everyone wants to try the 9500+ foot challenge at least once. Then, many play the 7000+ ft white tees the next times they visit.
Tennessee
March 26th, 2009, 10:21 AM
Reason I was asking was because I would like to build the next one up to gold tee standards, though it looks like it doesn't mean it will be a 9,000 course, a 6,500 ft course could be gold rated if through heavy woods. I am planning on getting the next course there (gold rated), along with cement tee pads and the targets certified by PDGA. Also by the time the ODDGA plays in May, I plan on having several holes on the original course lengthened like we've talked about, making that a true par three/four course, and yes, eventually get better gravel trails and cement tee pads there too. :)
I think i just might.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4
Magilla
March 26th, 2009, 12:49 PM
I think i just might.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4
:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: :laughing::laughing:
snap7times
March 26th, 2009, 03:15 PM
I think i need to go to the store and get me some grapes...
smobro
March 26th, 2009, 05:56 PM
Bob,
John Houck is the premier course designer out there. I have played several of his courses and always found them challenging. Perhaps he would be interested in throwing you some recommendations? I think his courses are fair and challenging.
Magilla
March 26th, 2009, 10:25 PM
Bob,
John Houck is the premier course designer out there. I have played several of his courses and always found them challenging. Perhaps he would be interested in throwing you some recommendations? I think his courses are fair and challenging.
John IS a great course designer.....what else is there to do with all that land in Texas..:laughing:
AND the top of his head makes a great arm rest when Im standing next to him
:laughing: (sorry that was a short joke)
We DO have some pretty good course designers right here in Oregon, as well
:wink2:
Chuck Kennedy
March 26th, 2009, 10:52 PM
It would be great if more NW players became members of the Disc Golf Course Designers group to learn some of the finer points of course design. So far, only Brad Huggins and John Conte have been members from the OR-WA area compared with 7 or 8 members in states like Texas, Minnesota, Wisconsin and North Carolina which are known for their courses.
dan
March 26th, 2009, 11:18 PM
It would be great if more NW players became members of the Disc Golf Course Designers group to learn some of the finer points of course design.
Interesting. What does that entail?
Chuck Kennedy
March 27th, 2009, 05:02 AM
Send me an email at ck34 at aol.com and I'll send the info. Unfortunately, our member website is currently moving from one server to another so it's not online.
Greg_R
April 10th, 2009, 01:36 PM
I would say only the two BSF courses at Milo McIver truly qualify.Oakway down in Eugene (at least the version I played) would definitely be a gold course.
Matt B.
April 10th, 2009, 10:00 PM
Oakway down in Eugene (at least the version I played) would definitely be a gold course.
Especially if they hadn't yanked it. :mad:
RIP Oakway:headbang:
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